2019 General Recruiting Thread

[HoosierHoops1]

27 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

Can anyone name one graduate transfer basketball target that couldn't transfer to IU because of high admission standards. It sounds like a totally made up theory.

They can't really publicize that they went a different route from player X, because of academic shortcomings. 

[Uspshoosier]

Several commentators on Twitter who are knowledgeable have been bemoaning how difficult IU's admission standards are for grad transfers in football and basketball which accounts for the fact we don't appear to be overly active in that area.  Not by Archie's or CTA's choice but an administration forced down decision that severely limits their options.  Is it a Fred Glass mandate or a mandate from higher up isn't clear.

Above Fred. It’s out of the athletic departments hands


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[Uspshoosier]

Students transfer to and from IU all the time, I can’t imagine they make it more difficult for basketball and football players


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Regular transfers that have to sit out a year are fine. They are not a problem. It’s the graduate transfers that have to get accepted to the graduate program. Other schools have special admins for their athletes whereas Indiana does not. The staff looked at several guards but stopped once they knew it would be a waste of time and they wouldn’t have been accepted to the graduate program


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[Uspshoosier]

Can anyone name one graduate transfer basketball target that couldn't transfer to IU because of high admission standards. It sounds like a totally made up theory.

Would that be fair to the recruit involved if they mentioned his name as someone who didn’t get accepted to the graduate program. I’m guess there are privacy acts against doing that. The journalists that cover IU won’t even mention names even though they know the names of some of them


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[Honkyman]

This is a totally made up story to try to explain why no graduate transfers are coming to IU. There is absolutely no evidence to back this assertion up. To hide behind privacy requirements is non-sense because if true it could be confirmed without violating privacy.  Graduate transfers are not coming to IU for the same reason 2019 targets are not coming. We had a lousy year and players have better options.

[Hovadipo]

11 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

This is a totally made up story to try to explain why no graduate transfers are coming to IU. There is absolutely no evidence to back this assertion up. To hide behind privacy requirements is non-sense because if true it could be confirmed without violating privacy.  Graduate transfers are not coming to IU for the same reason 2019 targets are not coming. We had a lousy year and players have better options.

You are simply wrong, like it or not. 

[Honkyman]

OK. I'll pretend like others here that it is we are losing graduate transfers who actually want to play for IU because it is so difficult to get admitted to an IU grad program even though there are absolutely no facts to support the supposition.  I'll also pretend that IU is in good shape to win the Big 10 and compete for a national championship next year even though there is no evidence to support that supposition. Its easier to pretend than it is to live in the real world.

[mdn82]

OK. I'll pretend like others here that it is we are losing graduate transfers who actually want to play for IU because it is so difficult to get admitted to an IU grad program even though there are absolutely no facts to support the supposition.  I'll also pretend that IU is in good shape to win the Big 10 and compete for a national championship next year even though there is no evidence to support that supposition. Its easier to pretend than it is to live in the real world.

Well your real world is plainly wrong like Hova said like it or not. But if pretending gets you back to the real world, welcome back.

 

 

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[Alford Bailey]

I can see it being an issue with a grad program

[mdn82]

I can see it being an issue with a grad program

And it sucks. As this is an area that could help us. I get it, but it doesn’t make it any easier. This is another area where those at the very top are wrong imo. It shouldn’t have to be so cut and dry. There should be some leeway if it makes sense beyond athletes.

 

 

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[Alford Bailey]

2 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

And it sucks. As this is an area that could help us. I get it, but it doesn’t make it any easier. This is another area where those at the very top are wrong imo. It shouldn’t have to be so cut and dry. There should be some leeway if it makes sense beyond athletes.

 

 

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Goes back to the one arm tied behind our back comment.

[HoosierAloha]

What grad transfers has IU landed in recent years... Zeisloft, Bielfeld, Fitzner, and now Brunk. All top notch students by what was said but I agree with Bailey. Why would they not allow a student that doesn’t get accepted into the grad school?! Just let them play, it’s not like they’re student-athletes!


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[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

What grad transfers has IU landed in recent years... Zeisloft, Bielfeld, Fitzner, and now Brunk. All top notch students by what was said but I agree with Bailey. Why would they not allow a student that doesn’t get accepted into the grad school?! Just let them play, it’s not like they’re student-athletes!


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Can’t we just start some grad program for athletes. Offer a PHD in athletic organization aptitude or some BS 

[HoosierDYT]

Can’t we just start some grad program for athletes. Offer a PHD in athletic organization aptitude or some BS 

It really should be that easy...sadly our administration won’t do that for basketball because they don’t want basketball to be king


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[Uspshoosier]

OK. I'll pretend like others here that it is we are losing graduate transfers who actually want to play for IU because it is so difficult to get admitted to an IU grad program even though there are absolutely no facts to support the supposition.  I'll also pretend that IU is in good shape to win the Big 10 and compete for a national championship next year even though there is no evidence to support that supposition. Its easier to pretend than it is to live in the real world.

In the real world I’m guessing you rely on the people who make a living on covering IU athletics on a daily basis correct? You don’t drive to Bloomington and ask the administrators the questions yourself. People who do this for a living have repeatedly reported this grad transfer issue and has tried to get an answer by setting up a Q/A with the people higher up on this issue and the issue of why the BTN money is getting used for other reasons besides athletics. They have denied his request each time. You go ahead a keep pretending this is a big conspiracy and that it’s a non issue and IU just sucks and no one wants to come here. I’m going to go ahead and listen to the people that actually cover this stuff for a living


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[Honkyman]

I'm not alleging a conspiracy. I'm simply pointing to the fact that there is no public information to support the claim that graduate transfer basketball players can't meet the entrance requirements at IU. Other schools, e.g., Notre Dame, have acknowledged that their admission standards are higher. IU has not. Nor have I seen any articles using even anonymous sources to make that point. Only as often happens people on this board making claims without citing facts to support those claims. It can only be considered true if there are fact to support it. There are not.

[Brass Cannon]

10 minutes ago, Honkyman said:

I'm not alleging a conspiracy. I'm simply pointing to the fact that there is no public information to support the claim that graduate transfer basketball players can't meet the entrance requirements at IU. Other schools, e.g., Notre Dame, have acknowledged that their admission standards are higher. IU has not. Nor have I seen any articles using even anonymous sources to make that point. Only as often happens people on this board making claims without citing facts to support those claims. It can only be considered true if there are fact to support it. There are not.

There’s no public information because they can’t make it public. So literally your point is moot 

[Uspshoosier]

I'm not alleging a conspiracy. I'm simply pointing to the fact that there is no public information to support the claim that graduate transfer basketball players can't meet the entrance requirements at IU. Other schools, e.g., Notre Dame, have acknowledged that their admission standards are higher. IU has not. Nor have I seen any articles using even anonymous sources to make that point. Only as often happens people on this board making claims without citing facts to support those claims. It can only be considered true if there are fact to support it. There are not.

You haven’t seen any articles on a free board but maybe on a premium board it has been discussed and wrote about for well over a year now


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[TXHoosierDaddy]

And you guys wonder how a team like Texas Tech has been able to elevate their program so quickly and remain consistent despite being Texas Tech. Yes, they got a very good coach but grad transfers were key to their title run this year. 

Oh they also have two important grad transfers coming in again.

Bottom line: Adjust accordingly or play from a disadvantage. 

https://sportsday.dallasnews.com/college-sports/collegesports/2019/05/15/texas-tech-picks-second-graduate-transfer-versatile-former-virginia-tech-swingman-chris-clarke

[Choopy]

Jalen Wilson just asked for his release from Michigan. Would like to see Archie go after him.


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