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Prediction League RESULTS Thread

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4 minutes ago, johnsoniu said:

I suck. Being behind Josh is one thing, but being behind Natty has me questioning my very existence 

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Hey, chooiserred1, how is the view from up there on the top of the hill?  Hearing footsteps behind you?  That's me, only five points down and sitting in the catbird seat.  Defending champion, you know.  Not giving up the title without a fight.  Good luck!  Lots of games to go.
No worries. I want the ball in my hands at the end of the game. Straight baller, shot caller!

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It is not that we sux.  IU is terribly inconsistent and unfocused at times.  Erratic and sloppy perimeter play and lack of defense hurt the team.  And we here trying to predict and anticipate all of that...are behind the curve.  Especially on the road.

But the positive side of all of this is that they and we have a lot of the season to go.  I can't pull out much more of my hair.  

The biggest question is not if this is a flawed team...because it is.  The question is can Coach Woody and his staff fix it or at least figure out how best to use it and position it to win?  Uh...well...ugh...

(And then recruit better and use the portal better.)

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11 hours ago, Dave from Dayton said:

It is not that we sux.  IU is terribly inconsistent and unfocused at times.  Erratic and sloppy perimeter play and lack of defense hurt the team.  And we here trying to predict and anticipate all of that...are behind the curve.  Especially on the road.

But the positive side of all of this is that they and we have a lot of the season to go.  I can't pull out much more of my hair.  

The biggest question is not if this is a flawed team...because it is.  The question is can Coach Woody and his staff fix it or at least figure out how best to use it and position it to win?  Uh...well...ugh...

(And then recruit better and use the portal better.)

Dave, I should restrict these comments to the end of the year but your comment struck a note.  Not everyone is having difficulty predicting the performance of this team.  I suspect that most who are struggling are picking with their hearts on their sleeve.

I come at this from the position of a professional gambler, Horses not sports.  One of the first thing that I learned a long time ago is that you can not will the outcome of any event.  Your feelings in no way have an impact on the outcome.

Secondly, most people who are struggling, vastly over react to the last performance.  Scoring 100 points against a team with a horrible defense lulled a lot of fans into over predicting our performance against Nebraska.  Overall performance is a much better predictor.

Finally the same can be said about individual performance.  One career night does not mean that the player is not going to revert to normal in the next game.

Time off between games, distance traveled, and location of the game also has a major impact.

I probably sound like an obnoxious know it all, so feel free to ignore me.  I try to adhere to the principles that I have listed above and I almost always explain my reasoning when I list my picks.  Doesn't mean that I'm always right.

Then I root like hell for the Hoosiers when they play.  The prediction League is only a fun game.  Being a IU fan is serious business.

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12 hours ago, BottomLine said:

Dave, I should restrict these comments to the end of the year but your comment struck a note.  Not everyone is having difficulty predicting the performance of this team.  I suspect that most who are struggling are picking with their hearts on their sleeve.

I come at this from the position of a professional gambler, Horses not sports.  One of the first thing that I learned a long time ago is that you can not will the outcome of any event.  Your feelings in no way have an impact on the outcome.

Secondly, most people who are struggling, vastly over react to the last performance.  Scoring 100 points against a team with a horrible defense lulled a lot of fans into over predicting our performance against Nebraska.  Overall performance is a much better predictor.

Finally the same can be said about individual performance.  One career night does not mean that the player is not going to revert to normal in the next game.

Time off between games, distance traveled, and location of the game also has a major impact.

I probably sound like an obnoxious know it all, so feel free to ignore me.  I try to adhere to the principles that I have listed above and I almost always explain my reasoning when I list my picks.  Doesn't mean that I'm always right.

Then I root like hell for the Hoosiers when they play.  The prediction League is only a fun game.  Being a IU fan is serious business.

I thoroughly understand and could 'predict' a lot more accurately than my Prediction Thread shows.  But, I don't really care about who or why someone is more 'objective' than I post in this game.  I never put $$ on sports gambling.  I grew up within walking distance of a parimutuel horse racing venue and loved it.  But never have I put more than $2 on a horse.  So professional gambling, in my opinion, is for other people to get their dopamine hits.  Not me.  Play the lottery...you have got to be kidding me.  Why do I want more money?  I have enough.  

I also do not hang a hat on any player's career night impacting the next games.  So the premise in the above post is not necessarily correct about that.

I could see, and posted early on this site, that IU needed guards and shooters much before this season started.  The 'fix' has been missed.  So IU is dependent on the inside game.  This gives opponents an opportunity to shut down IU's offense more easily.  

Back to the Prediction Thread.  It gives me some pleasure to be involved in discussing the pros and cons of IU's team's performance in advance and during the games.  Not so much after the fact.  I do not get any satisfaction from posting that IU should lose to OSU tonight.  Hope springs eternal.  Never, ever, should any team come to SSAH and win over IU.  Not ever.

What really pisses me off is that the coaching staff is missing the boat.  The X's and O's are not putting IU in position to take advantage of matchups and other opportunities during the game.  

B.L.  Glad that you are 'professionally' able to predict.  Good on you.  But, I do not care about that.

I care only about this team, the coaches and them doing their best.  They are not even close.  That is the issue.  Notice, I am not saying that they have to win each and every game.  Just that they need to grow up and do better...all..of...the...time.  

Sure, I wear my heart on my sleeve.  I like that placement much better than any 'satisfaction' others get picking an OSU tonight.  How dare you? ! /s  Pick against MY HOOSIERS.  ...  As they say in New Joisie...Get outa heya!!  /s

 

I do really like this site.  And I appreciate the hell out of those that give time and effort to make it better, interesting and moderated.  Love the discussions.  Some need to be shorter and to the point.  Not run on and on.  (looks in mirror.  Oh.)

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7 hours ago, Dave from Dayton said:

I thoroughly understand and could 'predict' a lot more accurately than my Prediction Thread shows.  But, I don't really care about who or why someone is more 'objective' than I post in this game.  I never put $$ on sports gambling.  I grew up within walking distance of a parimutuel horse racing venue and loved it.  But never have I put more than $2 on a horse.  So professional gambling, in my opinion, is for other people to get their dopamine hits.  Not me.  Play the lottery...you have got to be kidding me.  Why do I want more money?  I have enough.  

I also do not hang a hat on any player's career night impacting the next games.  So the premise in the above post is not necessarily correct about that.

I could see, and posted early on this site, that IU needed guards and shooters much before this season started.  The 'fix' has been missed.  So IU is dependent on the inside game.  This gives opponents an opportunity to shut down IU's offense more easily.  

Back to the Prediction Thread.  It gives me some pleasure to be involved in discussing the pros and cons of IU's team's performance in advance and during the games.  Not so much after the fact.  I do not get any satisfaction from posting that IU should lose to OSU tonight.  Hope springs eternal.  Never, ever, should any team come to SSAH and win over IU.  Not ever.

What really pisses me off is that the coaching staff is missing the boat.  The X's and O's are not putting IU in position to take advantage of matchups and other opportunities during the game.  

B.L.  Glad that you are 'professionally' able to predict.  Good on you.  But, I do not care about that.

I care only about this team, the coaches and them doing their best.  They are not even close.  That is the issue.  Notice, I am not saying that they have to win each and every game.  Just that they need to grow up and do better...all..of...the...time.  

Sure, I wear my heart on my sleeve.  I like that placement much better than any 'satisfaction' others get picking an OSU tonight.  How dare you? ! /s  Pick against MY HOOSIERS.  ...  As they say in New Joisie...Get outa heya!!  /s

 

I do really like this site.  And I appreciate the hell out of those that give time and effort to make it better, interesting and moderated.  Love the discussions.  Some need to be shorter and to the point.  Not run on and on.  (looks in mirror.  Oh.)

I'm sorry if you took any of my comments personally.  I intended to be of a more general nature.  I was reacting to your comment on the Hoosiers being inconsistent and unpredictable and I and others have not found that to be the case.  It all depends on how you look at the situation and many on here are always wearing rose colored glasses.  The reality is that we are not a very good team at present and it shows in our record.  We are outclassed by good teams and struggle against "lesser" teams.

We are almost completely in agreement as to the reasons why.

After winning this league last year I made some comments about my background and some people took exception.  I spent 18 years as a basketball coach.  I think I have a pretty good understanding of team dynamics and chemistry as well as the Xs and Os.  I'm not going to apologize for that.  It is what it is.  I also was employed for 21 years as a public thoroughbred handicapper for a Chicago area newspaper.  I have a lot of experience in separating emotion from the process of making predictions.  Again I'll not apologize for that either.  It is just a fact and I've always tried to pass on what I've learned to others.

I have been to a casino twice in my life.  I never play the lottery.  I've never wagered on sports events.  I do not gamble on anything except the things that I understand, which is horses.  I have not made a wager on a horse race in years.  It just doesn't interest me any more and it is really hard work to do it well.  I've moved on. However, as long as someone keeps score and maintains maintains standings, I'm going to do the best that I can, and use whatever talents and insight that I have.

Sorry that I've run on so much.  I also spent 43 years as a U.S History teacher.  Being verbose seems to go along with the gig.  I can't help myself.

Good luck over the rest of the season.  I hope the guys finally give us something to make us happy.

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10 minutes ago, BottomLine said:

Why oh why do you pretend to be such a harda**?  We all know that inside you are just a softie.  BTW hilarious picture.  Family member?

Upgrade from your iPhone 1 old man.  It's actually a gif.  A representation of what's been spreading here lately

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Damn you Xavier Johnson and your occasional making of free throws!

@mamasa called a perfect game with @IUHoosierJoe getting IU's score and @incrediboy @Joe_hoopsier and @LIHoosier getting OSU's score.

@str8baller takes back the top spot overall.

  Overall       Game 15  
Rank 2023-24 IUBB Points   Rank IU/Ohio St Points
1 str8baller 1475   1 mamasa 145
2 choosierred1 1457   2 LIHoosier 133
3 BottomLine 1453   3 incrediboy 122
4 hper50 1446   4 str8baller 120
5 Rico 1444   5 tkbbn 119
6 Henryville Hoosier 1434   6 cbp4iu 119
7 Crazy about IU 1430   7 hper50 118
8 IUHoosierJoe 1429   8 Napleshoosier 118
9 taco corp 1424   9 Scotty R 118
10 Josh 1419   10 Joe_hoopsier 118
11 LIHoosier 1414   11 Josh 117
12 Naturalhoosier 1407   12 WayneFleekHoosier 117
13 DChoosier 1404   13 Henryville Hoosier 116
14 johnsoniu 1393   14 Stuhoo 116
15 tkbbn 1387   15 Crazy about IU 115
16 HoosierHoopster 1386   16 Rico 115
17 Stromboli 1380   17 RoadRage 115
18 cthomas 1378   18 Average 75-72 IU 114
19 Redcamaro 1376   19 cthomas 114
20 Demo 1371   20 DChoosier 114
21 maxwell 1360   21 Demo 114
22 rcs29 1359   22 RaceToTheTop 114
23 AZ Hoosier 1345   23 rcs29 114
24 craigyv88 1345   24 Redcamaro 114
25 Home Jersey 1344   25 Dave from Dayton 113
26 Dave from Dayton 1342   26 taco corp 113
27 WayneFleekHoosier 1342   27 craigyv88 112
28 Scotty R 1341   28 HoosierHoopster 112
29 Stuhoo 1334   29 johnsoniu 112
30 mamasa 1331   30 thebigweave 112
31 Napleshoosier 1325   31 IUHoosier5 111
32 Hoosierfan1901 1324   32 maxwell 111
33 LamarCheeks 1316   33 DoctorP 110
34 incrediboy 1316   34 IU - Kaulie 110
35 muttcs66 1301   35 muttcs66 110
36 thebigweave 1287   36 Kentuckysucks 110
37 coonhounds 1270   37 AZ Hoosier 109
38 Class of '66 Old Fart 1268   38 monskisprodigy 107
39 RaceToTheTop 1265   39 OGIUAndy 105
40 IU - Kaulie 1264   40 coonhounds 99
41 IUHoosier5 1259   41 realTomCrean 97
42 DoctorP 1226   42 IUHoosierJoe 73
43 ALASKA HOOSIER 1201   43 LamarCheeks 64
44 Joe_hoopsier 1138   44 Stromboli 63
45 SamIam 1089   45 BottomLine 62
46 cbp4iu 953   46 TTT 60
47 OGIUAndy 852   47 choosierred1 60
48 Mopladysman 819   48 Naturalhoosier 58
49 monskisprodigy 607   49 Class of '66 Old Fart 57
50 Kentuckysucks 587   50 Hoosierfan1901 53
51 tyappleg 533   51 Home Jersey 52
52 realTomCrean 518        
53 HoosierTrav 517        
54 HoosierCoop 472        
55 Woodson1980 419        
56 Hornsby 336        
57 Loaded Chicken Sandwich 282        
58 RoadRage 280        
59 TTT 231        
60 mike vannice 213        
61 AKHoosier 168        
62 jefftheref 159        
63 HoosierFan1994 114        
64 Hardwood83 113        
65 MikeRoberts 108        
66 triple 107        
67 rayl456 106        
68 CookHallGymRat 96        
69 IUBBx5Banners 61        
70 OldBuddy67 47        

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Wow!!!!  Way to go Mamasa for an incredible 145.  You are my hero.  You now have well earned bragging rights.  And, as to LlHoosier, you were robbed by Xavier's exhaustion at the end.  He played a ton of minutes for someone that has been out for weeks.  Great job - both of you. 

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@LamarCheeks wins the Rutger game with 132 pts, getting the Rutger score right along with @DoctorP @Home Jersey @hper50 @LIHoosier @Rico and @Stuhoo.

@hper50 vaults to the overall lead.

  Overall       Game 16  
Rank 2023-24 IUBB Points   Rank IU/Rutger Points
1 hper50 1576   1 LamarCheeks 132
2 LIHoosier 1544   2 hper50 130
3 IUHoosierJoe 1542   3 LIHoosier 130
4 str8baller 1541   4 DoctorP 129
5 taco corp 1540   5 Stuhoo 128
6 choosierred1 1538   6 Hoosierfan1901 122
7 Josh 1523   7 rcs29 117
8 BottomLine 1522   8 taco corp 116
9 Crazy about IU 1521   9 craigyv88 115
10 Rico 1515   10 Class of '66 Old Fart 114
11 johnsoniu 1496   11 IU - Kaulie 114
12 Henryville Hoosier 1494   12 IUHoosierJoe 113
13 rcs29 1476   13 Napleshoosier 112
14 DChoosier 1469   14 WayneFleekHoosier 107
15 Naturalhoosier 1465   15 Josh 104
16 Stuhoo 1462   16 muttcs66 104
17 craigyv88 1460   17 johnsoniu 103
18 WayneFleekHoosier 1449   18 Kentuckysucks 103
19 LamarCheeks 1448   19 monskisprodigy 102
20 HoosierHoopster 1447   20 Rico 71
21 tkbbn 1446   21 Home Jersey 66
22 Hoosierfan1901 1446   22 str8baller 64
23 Stromboli 1443   23 choosierred1 63
24 Napleshoosier 1437   24 incrediboy 63
25 Redcamaro 1436   25 Average 70-67 IU 61
26 cthomas 1435   26 HoosierHoopster 61
27 Demo 1429   27 Scotty R 60
28 maxwell 1417   28 Redcamaro 60
29 Home Jersey 1410   29 Crazy about IU 60
30 AZ Hoosier 1408   30 Henryville Hoosier 60
31 muttcs66 1405   31 IUHoosier5 59
32 Scotty R 1404   32 tkbbn 59
33 Dave from Dayton 1400   33 Stromboli 58
34 mamasa 1385   34 Dave from Dayton 58
35 Class of '66 Old Fart 1382   35 Demo 58
36 incrediboy 1379   36 thebigweave 57
37 IU - Kaulie 1378   37 coonhounds 57
38 DoctorP 1355   38 cthomas 57
39 thebigweave 1344   39 Naturalhoosier 57
40 coonhounds 1327   40 DChoosier 55
41 IUHoosier5 1318   41 mamasa 54
42 RaceToTheTop 1265   42 maxwell 54
43 ALASKA HOOSIER 1245   43 BottomLine 53
44 Joe_hoopsier 1190   44 Joe_hoopsier 52
45 SamIam 1089   45 AZ Hoosier 52
46 cbp4iu 953   46 OGIUAndy 52
47 OGIUAndy 904   47 RoadRage 46
48 Mopladysman 819   48 ALASKA HOOSIER 44
49 monskisprodigy 709        
50 Kentuckysucks 690        
51 tyappleg 533        
52 realTomCrean 518        
53 HoosierTrav 517        
54 HoosierCoop 472        
55 Woodson1980 419        
56 Hornsby 336        
57 RoadRage 326        
58 Loaded Chicken Sandwich 282        
59 TTT 231        
60 mike vannice 213        
61 AKHoosier 168        
62 jefftheref 159        
63 HoosierFan1994 114        
64 Hardwood83 113        
65 MikeRoberts 108        
66 triple 107        
67 rayl456 106        
68 CookHallGymRat 96        
69 IUBBx5Banners 61        
70 OldBuddy67 47        

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@Napleshoosier wins the Mini Soda game with 131 pts, getting IU's score right along with @Crazy about IU @Dave from Dayton @Hoosierfan1901 @maxwell  @thebigweave and the Average. Go...Team? @RoadRage got the Gophers score right.

@hper50 still leads overall.

  Overall       Game 17  
Rank 2023-24 IUBB Points   Rank IU/Minnesota Points
1 hper50 1695   1 Napleshoosier 131
2 LIHoosier 1663   2 Crazy about IU 130
3 IUHoosierJoe 1656   3 Dave from Dayton 129
4 str8baller 1654   4 Average 74-69 IU 128
5 choosierred1 1653   5 Hoosierfan1901 128
6 taco corp 1652   6 thebigweave 128
7 Crazy about IU 1651   7 RoadRage 127
8 Josh 1640   8 maxwell 126
9 BottomLine 1637   9 LamarCheeks 122
10 Rico 1633   10 Kentuckysucks 120
11 johnsoniu 1611   11 WayneFleekHoosier 119
12 Henryville Hoosier 1611   12 LIHoosier 119
13 rcs29 1592   13 muttcs66 119
14 DChoosier 1582   14 hper50 119
15 Naturalhoosier 1580   15 tkbbn 119
16 Stuhoo 1574   16 Rico 118
17 Hoosierfan1901 1574   17 Stromboli 117
18 LamarCheeks 1570   18 monskisprodigy 117
19 craigyv88 1568   19 Henryville Hoosier 117
20 WayneFleekHoosier 1568   20 Demo 117
21 Napleshoosier 1568   21 Home Jersey 117
22 tkbbn 1565   22 Josh 117
23 HoosierHoopster 1560   23 incrediboy 116
24 Stromboli 1560   24 Class of '66 Old Fart 116
25 cthomas 1547   25 rcs29 116
26 Demo 1546   26 choosierred1 115
27 maxwell 1543   27 johnsoniu 115
28 Dave from Dayton 1529   28 BottomLine 115
29 Home Jersey 1527   29 Scotty R 115
30 muttcs66 1524   30 Naturalhoosier 115
31 Scotty R 1519   31 IUHoosierJoe 114
32 Class of '66 Old Fart 1498   32 DChoosier 113
33 incrediboy 1495   33 HoosierHoopster 113
34 Redcamaro 1493   34 RaceToTheTop 113
35 thebigweave 1472   35 str8baller 113
36 AZ Hoosier 1464   36 cthomas 112
37 IU - Kaulie 1439   37 Stuhoo 112
38 coonhounds 1437   38 taco corp 112
39 mamasa 1434   39 coonhounds 110
40 RaceToTheTop 1378   40 craigyv88 108
41 IUHoosier5 1357   41 OGIUAndy 106
42 DoctorP 1355   42 ALASKA HOOSIER 105
43 ALASKA HOOSIER 1350   43 IU - Kaulie 61
44 Joe_hoopsier 1190   44 jefftheref 49
45 SamIam 1089   45 TTT 37
46 OGIUAndy 1010        
47 cbp4iu 953        
48 monskisprodigy 826        
49 Mopladysman 819        
50 Kentuckysucks 810        
51 tyappleg 533        
52 realTomCrean 518        
53 HoosierTrav 517        
54 HoosierCoop 472        
55 RoadRage 453        
56 Woodson1980 419        
57 Hornsby 336        
58 Loaded Chicken Sandwich 282        
59 TTT 268        
60 mike vannice 213        
61 jefftheref 208        
62 AKHoosier 168        
63 HoosierFan1994 114        
64 Hardwood83 113        
65 MikeRoberts 108        
66 triple 107        
67 rayl456 106        
68 CookHallGymRat 96        
69 IUBBx5Banners 61        
70 OldBuddy67 47        

 

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