2018 Recruiting Class

[Stuhoo 85,957]

But if Archie's first IU class was Anderson, Race, Duke and Jerome Hunter we should be extraordinarily satisfied.

Big IF, and should we?




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Hell yes!

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

Man you are really a pessimist. We are capable of a sweet sixteen run. We have the experience and talent. If that talent does not buy in the we won't get there but it is certainly possible. More possible than a top 5 class this fall.

A realist? Sure. Could we "overachieve" and make a run at a sweet sixteen? Sure. On paper, we will be a mid B1G pick at best. Probably 8-10 in all the publications. I expect us to overcome that, but that is the fan in me. The stats and facts will have us 50-60 in the country not 15-25.


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[8bucks 7,074]

A realist? Sure. Could we "overachieve" and make a run at a sweet sixteen? Sure. On paper, we will be a mid B1G pick at best. Probably 8-10 in all the publications. I expect us to overcome that, but that is the fan in me. The stats and facts will have us 50-60 in the country not 15-25.


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A realist but you seem to expect us to have a top 5 class or am I just misunderstanding your comments. You took my realist comment about building for a run in year three then suggested a blue blood would not have to wait that long. I am confused.

[Brass Cannon 25,176]

Well this just stinks be nice to get some good news. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

Well this just stinks be nice to get some good news. 

Good News?

Luegentz Dort liked my "Hoosiers" post under his recruiting edit. Haha


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[goonaha 2,974]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Good News?

Luegentz Dort liked my "Hoosiers" post under his recruiting edit. Haha


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Even better, he didn't like the people who commented on behalf of Mizzou and Oregon. The social media tea leaves are looking good!

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

Even better, he didn't like the people who commented on behalf of Mizzou and Oregon. The social media tea leaves are looking good!

Lol. Yeah.


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[mdn82 25,871]

Until we show we can compete for the type of recruits (we haven't) that Duke, Kansas, and UK are competing for we need to win some of the battles we are TRYING to win at smaller stages.

Of course we will find guys as the recruiting cycle unfolds but again (much like Crean) it may be guys 2 or 3 spots removed from where we are aiming.

Good players we want are committing now. Admittedly it's early, but top guys we want are committing. A lost recruiting battle in June hurts similar to a lost battle in November.


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How can we honestly show that in 3 months?


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[Hoosierfan2017 23,540]

34 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

The sweet sixteen talk for this upcoming season is just fantalk. There is nothing to indicate we are a sweet sixteen capable team this coming season. We are a sweet sixteen type team this season the same way Georgia Tech, Illinois, Seton Hall and 100 other teams are sweet sixteen teams.




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Trust the process brotha! I'm waiting until our first beatdown to let reality creep in. Right now all the videos they're putting out are getting me too hype to be realistic. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 50,005]

Trust the process brotha! I'm waiting until our first beatdown to let reality creep in. Right now all the videos they're putting out are getting me too hype to be realistic. 

Gotta love the hype machine. Dakich's and Swanigan's favorite thing about IU.

FWIW, I love them too, but we have a lot to prove.


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[Hoosierfan2017 23,540]

4 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Gotta love the hype machine. Dakich's and Swanigan's favorite thing about IU.

FWIW, I love them too, but we have a lot to prove.


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Yeah I agree. I think I'm just excited that we finally have a sense of hope since the Crean roller coaster is gone, so I'm overly hopeful and more optimistic than I should be. 

[cthomas 6,561]

I believe Coach Miller knows what he's doing. I also believe he'll get players he can build a team with. I am so used to us doing less with more that I'm looking forward to doing more with less. Coaching can make a difference!

[Alford Bailey 12,841]

Not concerned yet.

[Feathery 4,005]

I'm not expecting a monster class for the next class. To be honest Archie has a free ride from me for awhile. He has come in, said the right things, hired a quality staff, and kept the recruiting class together. He seems to have a plan and that enough for me this early in his tenure. I'd love to have some commitments, but the July evaluation period a just about to start. Still plenty of time and the in state kids haven't  moved on from IU. I'm ok taking a couple kids from the state if they are lower ranked than some national guys. Archie said inside/out and he needs to follow that to show the local coaches he is being serious. So if that means landing a Phinesee over Garland, so be it. It's year one, think big picture and not quick fix. 

[schoosier 3,643]

On 7/3/2017 at 5:16 PM, cthomas said:

I believe Coach Miller knows what he's doing. I also believe he'll get players he can build a team with. I am so used to us doing less with more that I'm looking forward to doing more with less. Coaching can make a difference!

Agree. Im most excited about our chances in close games and I also think Arch really likes his players esp the new recruits. I believe he has enough talent to win now and his coaching will get us the championship players.

[MikeRoberts 7,674]

I'm not expecting a monster class for the next class. To be honest Archie has a free ride from me for awhile. He has come in, said the right things, hired a quality staff, and kept the recruiting class together. He seems to have a plan and that enough for me this early in his tenure. I'd love to have some commitments, but the July evaluation period a just about to start. Still plenty of time and the in state kids haven't  moved on from IU. I'm ok taking a couple kids from the state if they are lower ranked than some national guys. Archie said inside/out and he needs to follow that to show the local coaches he is being serious. So if that means landing a Phinesee over Garland, so be it. It's year one, think big picture and not quick fix. 

Partially agree. Not worried that we have zero commitments, it's how you finish that matters. Thing is, i didn't have any issue with the quality of recruits Crean got as a whole, it was that he didn't know how to balance a roster, improve as the year went on, peak at the right time and give our team an edge with his coaching. If Miller can get the same type of recruits, but balance classes, positions, get them to peak and give us an edge in coaching, I think we will be a consistently top ten team. He just cant afford to whif on this first class, he needs a few immediate contributors. He's a good coach but not a miracle worker, he will need more talent and depth.


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[mdn82 25,871]

Partially agree. Not worried that we have zero commitments, it's how you finish that matters. Thing is, i didn't have any issue with the quality of recruits Crean got as a whole, it was that he didn't know how to balance a roster, improve as the year went on, peak at the right time and give our team an edge with his coaching. If Miller can get the same type of recruits, but balance classes, positions, get them to peak and give us an edge in coaching, I think we will be a consistently top ten team. He just cant afford to whif on this first class, he needs a few immediate contributors. He's a good coach but not a miracle worker, he will need more talent and depth.


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If he is to start balancing out the classes this year he takes no more than 3. He has said he won't over sign or sit at the max. I would be willing to bet he finds 2 immediate guys and one or two (I think he gets 4 this year) development guys. He never really was a big time recruiter. His guys didn't come in and play 30 min a night immediately. No idea if that is the way he goes here. I think he has to be more like a Coach K and win before he pulls who he wants if I am being truthful. He is a coach first. That played well here before. Can't wait to see it play out.


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[Feathery 4,005]

46 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

Partially agree. Not worried that we have zero commitments, it's how you finish that matters. Thing is, i didn't have any issue with the quality of recruits Crean got as a whole, it was that he didn't know how to balance a roster, improve as the year went on, peak at the right time and give our team an edge with his coaching. If Miller can get the same type of recruits, but balance classes, positions, get them to peak and give us an edge in coaching, I think we will be a consistently top ten team. He just cant afford to whif on this first class, he needs a few immediate contributors. He's a good coach but not a miracle worker, he will need more talent and depth.


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2018 I see a starting 5 of

Green - JR

Cujo - JR

Smith - SO

Morgan -SR

Davis - JR

I think Archie doesn't have to land an immediate impact, 5 star kid in the first class. He will have a season to show recruits he knows his stuff. He just need to land some solid kids who can play limited minutes off the bench. If he lands more than that its all gravy to me. 

I agree with the overall talent level Crean brought in. Looking back over the past 15 years, Davis through Crean, recruiting wasn't an issue. The issue was coaching ability, or in Sampson's case  his ethics. I guess that's why I'm not worried about recruiting. 

[HoosierAloha 30,100]

2018 I see a starting 5 of
Green - JR
Cujo - JR
Smith - SO
Morgan -SR
Davis - JR
I think Archie doesn't have to land an immediate impact, 5 star kid in the first class. He will have a season to show recruits he knows his stuff. He just need to land some solid kids who can play limited minutes off the bench. If he lands more than that its all gravy to me. 
I agree with the overall talent level Crean brought in. Looking back over the past 15 years, Davis through Crean, recruiting wasn't an issue. The issue was coaching ability, or in Sampson's case  his ethics. I guess that's why I'm not worried about recruiting. 

CAM also prefers a veteran group over younger players. I believe he'll mix some of that with talented underclassman.

I would like to see an immediate impact guard to mix with Green, Jones, and Durham.

[Stuhoo 85,957]

2018 I see a starting 5 of
Green - JR
Cujo - JR
Smith - SO
Morgan -SR
Davis - JR
I think Archie doesn't have to land an immediate impact, 5 star kid in the first class.

Agree that we don't need an immediate impact player in 2018.
However, I betcha betcha betcha that Al Durham beats out CuJo and/or DeVonte. Maybe by the start of this season!