Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[HoosierAloha]

That's kind of my point. Davis is the only current player on the roster who is a "big." That's not a shot at Morgan, Smith, or any others. How will Davis rebound from an Achilles injury?

Thompson could play down low for short stretches but he's not a big. Forester will get some run down low, eventually. Moore needs to add some muscle, and understanding of basketball.

We have two open scholarships without any transfers. I'd look for a guard and a big.


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[CSP]

28 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

That's kind of my point. Davis is the only current player on the roster who is a "big." That's not a shot at Morgan, Smith, or any others. How will Davis rebound from an Achilles injury?

Thompson could play down low for short stretches but he's not a big. Forester will get some run down low, eventually. Moore needs to add some muscle, and understanding of basketball.

We have two open scholarships without any transfers. I'd look for a guard and a big.


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Thompson is for sure a big and plays almost exclusively in the post.

[CSP]

44 minutes ago, cljones1979 said:

When someone says big I picture a post player.

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But that's not the reality of basketball at this point in time. 

[HoosierAloha]

Thompson is for sure a big and plays almost exclusively in the post.

So we have a big coming off an injury and an undersized redshirt freshman to man the middle. I would prefer Thompson to play the backup to Morgan. Moore or Forrester would have to pack on muscle and learn a ton about basketball.

Give me a serviceable grad transfer that can contribute for 20 minutes a game. Thompson can get 10-15 for Morgan at the 4.


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42 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

So we have a big coming off an injury and an undersized redshirt freshman to man the middle. I would prefer Thompson to play the backup to Morgan. Moore or Forrester would have to pack on muscle and learn a ton about basketball.

Give me a serviceable grad transfer that can contribute for 20 minutes a game. Thompson can get 10-15 for Morgan at the 4.


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So... in your opinion..  we need that more then a guard??? 

Are Moore, Smith, Forrester just not going to play at all?

There's 200 mins a night to play 

Morgan and Romeo would get 30 a piece on avg. 

Who are going to be our guards? Romeo vs. The world? 

RP is a FR.. he'll get 18-22mins, hopefully and I mean hopefully DG grows up. Durham is serviceable. What happens if there's foul trouble or injury? 

Hunter will struggle defensively early.. he isn't the answer next year. He'll give us a solid 12-20 mins a night. Justin Smith (ish) from this year. 

If we get a transfer big..  basically telling Moore to transfer (that's fine) and Forrester won't play at all. Smith is a college 4 with his skill set at this point. I don't think Anderson will be ready. 

[HoosierAloha]

So... in your opinion..  we need that more then a guard??? 
Are Moore, Smith, Forrester just not going to play at all?
There's 200 mins a night to play 
Morgan and Romeo would get 30 a piece on avg. 
Who are going to be our guards? Romeo vs. The world? 
RP is a FR.. he'll get 18-22mins, hopefully and I mean hopefully DG grows up. Durham is serviceable. What happens if there's foul trouble or injury? 
Hunter will struggle defensively early.. he isn't the answer next year. He'll give us a solid 12-20 mins a night. Justin Smith (ish) from this year. 
If we get a transfer big..  basically telling Moore to transfer (that's fine) and Forrester won't play at all. Smith is a college 4 with his skill set at this point. I don't think Anderson will be ready. 

We have two open a schollies. Give me a guard (Romeo or grad transfer) and a big (grad transfer).

I get Smith's skill set is more of a college 4 at this time but he and Hunter both need to work to play the 3.

Minutes distribution

Phinisee/Green/Durham (20/15/5)
Romeo/Durham/Anderson (30/5/5)
Smith/Hunter/Durham (20/10/5)
Morgan/Thompson/Smith (25/10/5)
Davis/Morgan (20/5/?)

Give me a grad transfer that can contribute 20 minutes to allow Morgan to play the 4. I don't want to see small ball Morgan, Smith, Durham front courts. That works fine for certain situations but doesn't win major conferences.


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29 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

We have two open a schollies. Give me a guard (Romeo or grad transfer) and a big (grad transfer).

I get Smith's skill set is more of a college 4 at this time but he and Hunter both need to work to play the 3.

Minutes distribution

Phinisee/Green/Durham (20/15/5)
Romeo/Durham/Anderson (30/5/5)
Smith/Hunter/Durham (20/10/5)
Morgan/Thompson/Smith (25/10/5)
Davis/Morgan (20/5/?)

Give me a grad transfer that can contribute 20 minutes to allow Morgan to play the 4. I don't want to see small ball Morgan, Smith, Durham front courts. That works fine for certain situations but doesn't win major conferences.


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Morgan, Smith, Romeo, grad transfer, and Green could do serious damage in the B1G. 

With RP, Hunter, Thompson, Davis, Durham, McRoberts the other mins. Just because those 5 start doesn't mean that'll be the only 5 on the court. 

Virginia has won plenty of basketball playing small, so has Nova, and Butler. Pure size is irrelevant, length matters though. 

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The point is.. we need more guys on the perimeter.  We have some depth down low. 

[A.j. Nigh]

We have two open a schollies. Give me a guard (Romeo or grad transfer) and a big (grad transfer).

I get Smith's skill set is more of a college 4 at this time but he and Hunter both need to work to play the 3.

Minutes distribution

Phinisee/Green/Durham (20/15/5)
Romeo/Durham/Anderson (30/5/5)
Smith/Hunter/Durham (20/10/5)
Morgan/Thompson/Smith (25/10/5)
Davis/Morgan (20/5/?)

Give me a grad transfer that can contribute 20 minutes to allow Morgan to play the 4. I don't want to see small ball Morgan, Smith, Durham front courts. That works fine for certain situations but doesn't win major conferences.


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You really think McRoberts isn’t in the rotation?


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[CSP]

Also.. You say wear and tear of being a 5?.. the only thing they really do is defend ball screens. Sometimes other team have big guys that can score.. not usually down low though. Morgan is a much better college 5 then Davis. 

[CSP]

3 minutes ago, Hardwood83 said:

I don't entirely disagree, but I would also say Morgan is a much better 4 than 5. So IU benefits by him NOT having to defend the other teams post. 

When does he defend the post though? And why just because he is our 5 does he have to defend the other teams best big man. Smith will be great defensively.

People have to be able to take advantage of it and the way teams play now, they simply don't. 

MSU would with their team this year, so we would play Davis more in that game. (That type game). 

Happ would be a problem, as he is for everyone. Davis had 2 fouls in 3 mins in about half the games he played, so why does he need to start?

[HoosierAloha]

MSU, Wiscy, O$U, pu, Maryland all have bigs that need defended. Morgan wore down this season and wasn't the primary big defender. You want him to run at the 5 all season? Smith guarding an opponents 5...? No, thanks.

I want a grad transfer big in the mold of what I think Forrester will eventually be. Good length that can handle physical bigs but can step out and knockdown a 15 footer.

If Morgan is our primary big we'll struggle to make the tourney.


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30 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

MSU, Wiscy, O$U, pu, Maryland all have bigs that need defended. Morgan wore down this season and wasn't the primary big defender. You want him to run at the 5 all season? Smith guarding an opponents 5...? No, thanks.

I want a grad transfer big in the mold of what I think Forrester will eventually be. Good length that can handle physical bigs but can step out and knockdown a 15 footer.

If Morgan is our primary big we'll struggle to make the tourney.


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Osu has no inside threat whatsoever. Neither does Maryland..  just because they're tall doesn't mean they're a threat. Purdue won't have one next year... Wisconsin might not because Happ might leave. 

I've already said Davis will play against the big teams and he is serviceable... but green, rp, Durham, and Romeo isn't enough... not even close. 

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We'll just have to agree to disagree go Hoosiers!!!

[HoosierAloha]

PSU has a developing Watkins. Maryland has a developing Bruno. That's in conference. If we want to compete for the top few spots in the Big Ten and be a solid tourney team we need a big that can defend and rebound while allowing Morgan to play the 4.

pu, MSU, Mich, and O$U are all tourney teams from the Big Ten. What do they have in common?

I completely agree we need a better backcourt too. I believe Phinisee solves some of those problems. If Green can mature more that will help greatly. Add Romeo or a grad transfer and we'll have a solid backcourt.


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[CSP]

8 hours ago, Fkfootball1 said:

Ummm....OSU has Wesson. Purdue has Haarms.

Ummmmm......and neither can score in the post. They can grab Orebs and set screens. 

[CSP]

30 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

PSU has a developing Watkins. Maryland has a developing Bruno. That's in conference. If we want to compete for the top few spots in the Big Ten and be a solid tourney team we need a big that can defend and rebound while allowing Morgan to play the 4.

pu, MSU, Mich, and O$U are all tourney teams from the Big Ten. What do they have in common?

I completely agree we need a better backcourt too. I believe Phinisee solves some of those problems. If Green can mature more that will help greatly. Add Romeo or a grad transfer and we'll have a solid backcourt.


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Literally watching Nova vs Bama now... there's been 3 total post ups in this game lol

If this were the 80s I would agree with you. It's like the fullback position in football. 

[CSP]

The mix of Davis, Thompson, and Morgan at the 5 is more than enough. Possibly Moore and Forrester for depth purposes. 

[BGleas]

1 hour ago, btownqb said:

Literally watching Nova vs Bama now... there's been 3 total post ups in this game lol

If this were the 80s I would agree with you. It's like the fullback position in football. 

Completely agree. The largest pain point on this roster is shooting, scoring, length and athleticism from the perimeter/wing. We need shooters/scorers from the perimeter. Adding Taylor and Langford would make IU really good next year. We just need our bigs to defend pic and roll, rebound, be athletic, etc. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

I'm not sure that centers are really all that necessary in college basketball today. I mean, 6'5 Freddie McSwain pulled down 16 rebounds against MSU's big boys. We need tough, nasty guys down low, even if they're only 6'7 or 6'8.