Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Blackmon_for_3 1,535]

5 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

To me? Having Porter at the 5 would indicate that DeRon may need a redshirt year. 

It could also give us a starting five of:

1. Green
2. Romeo
3. Justin
4. Juwan
5. Porter

McBob, Hunter, Phinisee, Al D, Race ... A lot of depth. A lot of size. A lot of athleticism. A little short on outside shooting. That roster could absolutely contend with a serious March run.

But, I am merely Tuesday-daydreaming with this scenario.

 

I agree it could mean a redshirt for DeRon but even then I don’t think he can be a 25 minute a game guy for a season without injury. If you can pair him with size to split minutes that really helps. The roster you highlighted above would win a lot of games, and be great defensively. 

[mdn82 25,546]

I agree it could mean a redshirt for DeRon but even then I don’t think he can be a 25 minute a game guy for a season without injury. If you can pair him with size to split minutes that really helps. The roster you highlighted above would win a lot of games, and be great defensively. 

This is where I am. Good kid it seems but the fit isn’t there. Why I prefer a different big.


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26 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

To me? Having Porter at the 5 would indicate that DeRon may need a redshirt year. 

It could also give us a starting five of:

1. Green
2. Romeo
3. Justin
4. Juwan
5. Porter

McBob, Hunter, Phinisee, Al D, Race ... A lot of depth. A lot of size. A lot of athleticism. A little short on outside shooting. That roster could absolutely contend with a serious March run.

But, I am merely Tuesday-daydreaming with this scenario.

 

In the spirit of offseason Tuesday daydreaming: I love Smith, and I’m sure lineups like this will get some serious run. I’m in wait-and-see mode about whether he and Morgan can play the forward spots alongside a traditional five for long stretches, though.

They’ve both flashed the occasional range, but I worry a bit about floor spacing on offense and quickness on defense with this lineup.

I hope they make these concerns laughable. As I said in the Romeo thread, I think defense, shooting, and turnover avoidance are paramount for PGs playing alongside a high-usage 2 like Romeo (and Juwan, too); for front court players, add rebounding. McBob starting at the 3 maximizes those attributes and lets Smith’s deployment respond to the game situation: go small/big? Is Morgan/the 5 in foul trouble? Etc.

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7 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

This is where I am. Good kid it seems but the fit isn’t there. Why I prefer a different big.


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My fit concern is that Arch clearly wants everyone, bigs included, to hedge ballscreens hard, and I worry De’Ron, even when healthy, may not have the quickness to hedge and recover without creating seams in the defense.

Recall how Michigan gashed Purdue, specifically Haas, with high pick-and-roll. Despite being good interior defenders, the weakness is so crucial it weakens team defense.

Forrester may not be ready to contribute much as a freshman, but in many ways he seems closer to the ideal five in the long run for the scheme, assuming you have scoring elsewhere.

[ap2345 8,624]

50 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

To me? Having Porter at the 5 would indicate that DeRon may need a redshirt year. 

It could also give us a starting five of:

1. Green
2. Romeo
3. Justin
4. Juwan
5. Porter

McBob, Hunter, Phinisee, Al D, Race ... A lot of depth. A lot of size. A lot of athleticism. A little short on outside shooting. That roster could absolutely contend with a serious March run.

But, I am merely Tuesday-daydreaming with this scenario.

 

This lineup could be fine but I look for the starting lineup and rotation game 1 next year baring any injures to be as follows.

1. Green

2. Romeo

3. Hunter or McRoberts

4. Morgan 

5. Porter? or Thompson

Bench: 

G1. Phinisee

G2. Durham

W1. Mcroberts or Hunter

W2. Smith

B1: Thompson or Moore or Davis depending on Porter and Davis's injury. 

Not getting many minutes early Davis(injury), Anderson, and Forrester although Forrester could change depending on Porter or another transfer or late addition. 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,109]

With respect to Porter, he might have his eye on wanting to see if Romeo does indeed commit to IU and therefore not make his decision until after April 30.

[Brass Cannon 24,977]

4 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

With respect to Porter, he might have his eye on wanting to see if Romeo does indeed commit to IU and therefore not make his decision until after April 30.

Just means he's a smart kid. Might as well compete at a high level next year. 

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I work with a girl that used to be on the girls basketball team and is friends with Curtis Jones and DeRon Davis. Apparently DeRon really wanted to go pro after this season, so this injury was very disappointing for him. His favorite player is Shaq so he wants to play like him. I find that a good thing for us. As for Curtis the breaking point was the Duke game when he barely played. He wanted to find a offensive style more suited for his skill set, which he did in Oklahoma State.


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5 minutes ago, barrettballer said:

I work with a girl that used to be on the girls basketball team and is friends with Curtis Jones and DeRon Davis. Apparently DeRon really wanted to go pro after this season, so this injury was very disappointing for him. His favorite player is Shaq so he wants to play like him. I find that a good thing for us. As for Curtis the breaking point was the Duke game when he barely played. He wanted to find a offensive style more suited for his skill set, which he did in Oklahoma State.


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Archie Miller don't give a sh!t 'bout dat.

 

[Chris007 46,765]

On 4/17/2018 at 12:24 PM, Brass Cannon said:

Just means he's a smart kid. Might as well compete at a high level next year. 

It's possible that we have passed on Porter. Race and Clifton have been playing well enough this spring for the staff to think they can contribute for next season. So we can bank that scholly for 19 or let McRoberts use it for 18.

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1 hour ago, Chris007 said:

It's possible that we have passed on Porter. Race and Clifton have been playing well enough this spring for the staff to think they can contribute for next season. So we can bank that scholly for 19 or let McRoberts use it for 18.

 

1. Porter wouldn't take up a '19 scholarship anyway; he's got one year left as a grad transfer.
2. Clifton Moore = Potential rim protector.  I am skeptical, but boy oh boy would his viable development be a good thing.

 

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1 hour ago, barrettballer said:

I work with a girl that used to be on the girls basketball team and is friends with Curtis Jones and DeRon Davis. Apparently DeRon really wanted to go pro after this season, so this injury was very disappointing for him. His favorite player is Shaq so he wants to play like him. I find that a good thing for us. As for Curtis the breaking point was the Duke game when he barely played. He wanted to find a offensive style more suited for his skill set, which he did in Oklahoma State.


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Davis isn't close to the NBA at this point. Curtis Jones can't dribble left handed. 

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On 4/17/2018 at 12:05 PM, ap2345 said:

This lineup could be fine but I look for the starting lineup and rotation game 1 next year baring any injures to be as follows.

1. Green

2. Romeo

3. Hunter or McRoberts

4. Morgan 

5. Porter? or Thompson

Bench: 

G1. Phinisee

G2. Durham

W1. Mcroberts or Hunter

W2. Smith

B1: Thompson or Moore or Davis depending on Porter and Davis's injury. 

Not getting many minutes early Davis(injury), Anderson, and Forrester although Forrester could change depending on Porter or another transfer or late addition. 

I can't see McRoberts keeping Justin Smith out of the starting lineup next year. Hunter or Thompson? It's hard to say on them until you see them play against college level competition but I'm thinking Smith starts over any of them three. I thought he acquitted himself really well towards the end of the season. 

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1. Green and later Phinisee

2. Romeo

3. McRoberts or Hunter

4. Smith

5. Morgan

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3 hours ago, barrettballer said:

I work with a girl that used to be on the girls basketball team and is friends with Curtis Jones and DeRon Davis. Apparently DeRon really wanted to go pro after this season, so this injury was very disappointing for him. His favorite player is Shaq so he wants to play like him. I find that a good thing for us. As for Curtis the breaking point was the Duke game when he barely played. He wanted to find a offensive style more suited for his skill set, which he did in Oklahoma State.


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Davis was no where near pro ready. Dude averaged less rebounds than our SG did.

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3 hours ago, Chris007 said:

It's possible that we have passed on Porter. Race and Clifton have been playing well enough this spring for the staff to think they can contribute for next season. So we can bank that scholly for 19 or let McRoberts use it for 18.

Hmmmm, I want to be excited about this comment. Would love Race & Moore to blow-up, but the thought of "passing" on a proven post player based on a few weeks of workouts concerns me.  

[A.j. Nigh 1,000]

Davis isn't close to the NBA at this point. Curtis Jones can't dribble left handed. 

Jones couldn’t make a shot either


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[yogisballin 2,379]

I don't expect Clifton to be a 15 pts per game guy, ever.
 
I want him to become a George Leach. Obviously with a better motor. We need a shot blocker, defensive presence.

Boy did leach, j newton and JJ block a lot of shots that season? Probably my 2nd favorite front line at IU behind Henderson, Cheaney and Nover for me.


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9 minutes ago, yogisballin said:

Boy did leach, j newton and JJ block a lot of shots that season? Probably my 2nd favorite front line at IU behind Henderson, Cheaney and Nover for me.


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Leach only played 9 mins a game that season. He did block 1.5 shots a game that season though.. Pretty impressive. 

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Boy did leach, j newton and JJ block a lot of shots that season? Probably my 2nd favorite front line at IU behind Henderson, Cheaney and Nover for me.


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...and Eric Anderson.


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