Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Brass Cannon 24,978]

2 minutes ago, brumdog45 said:

Exactly.  Here is an article that refers to him when he signed.  Notice it refers to him being a 4 star 2018 recruit at 247, checking the rankings now, the third ranked player in Minnesota is rated 48th nationally.

https://www.btpowerhouse.com/2017/7/16/15979392/2018-basketball-recruiting-four-star-power-forward-race-thompson-commits-to-indiana-hoosiers

You can't find his national ranking now since he reclassified, but I clearly remember him being ranked in the 80s at 247.

 

He was reranked by the 247 team and had him in the 80s of 2017.  Rivals didn't rerank him for 2017. So when 247s composite calculated his composite it was like he was unranked. 

[mdn82 25,546]

Forrester will play. But more of a steal some post minutes type of role.

We thought the same about Moore last year.


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[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

We thought the same about Moore last year.


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Yeah I’m not counting any freshman, except those like Romeo, as contributors until they start playing some college ball. We can’t be in a position where we’re hoping that a freshman who isn’t a surefire NBA prospect is going to change our fortunes.


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[Brass Cannon 24,978]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Yeah I’m not counting any freshman, except those like Romeo, as contributors until they start playing some college ball. We can’t be in a position where we’re hoping that a freshman who isn’t a surefire NBA prospect is going to change our fortunes.


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Yep. If they are ready to come off the bench great. Can't ever be the plan. 

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39 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

We thought the same about Moore last year.


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I did not

[mdn82 25,546]

I did not

Cool. A lot of people here did.


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[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,527]

2 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

Cool. A lot of people here did.


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They play different games. I think Forrester could be very similar to Juwan his FR year... give us 8 mins us tough D and good rebounding, and able to hold his own in the pick and roll. 

[mdn82 25,546]

They play different games. I think Forrester could be very similar to Juwan his FR year... give us 8 mins us tough D and good rebounding, and able to hold his own in the pick and roll. 

To me nothing I saw in Forrester’s game says he can give us 8 min a game when I watched him. If he can, then that’s great. But even the speed of the high school game seemed fast every time watched him. Only 5 games. You can see the upside for sure, but I didn’t see instant contributor. Again if he can that is awesome.


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[bleedhoosier 3,627]

I think Smith is going to be pretty big for us this year. Repeating myself from a few weeks back but I'm salivating at a Junior and Senior Justin Smith. The stroke is too pure and he's way too strong already to not be a force at the 4 spot. A rotation of Morgan/Smith/Race has to contend with anything in the big ten.

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[mdn82 25,546]

I think Smith is going to be pretty big for us this year. Repeating myself from a few weeks back but I'm salivating at a Junior and Senior Justin Smith. The stroke is too pure and he's way too strong already to not be a force at the 4 spot. A rotation of Morgan/Smith/Race has to contend with anything in the big ten.

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Me too. I think if we get Romeo, he is giving us around 10 ppg and hopefully 4 boards a game. That would be awesome.


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[MemphisHoosier 2,273]

Probably too early to tell, but I could see Forrester and/or Anderson redshirting this season depending on how the remaining two scholarships shake out.

[Walking Boot of Doom 18,170]

Probably too early to tell, but I could see Forrester and/or Anderson redshirting this season depending on how the remaining two scholarships shake out.

I would love if we could redshirt someone from this class, but I don’t give that a high likelihood. Redshirting is so uncommon these days. There are way more avenues for a kid to get paid professionally than there were back when redshirting was possible, so delaying a year of marketing yourself doesn’t seem to be a popular first choice.

Example: I think we all would have thought OG was a good freshman year redshirt candidate. He ended up having some real great performances on a national stage that catapulted him into discussions about his draft potential next year. Too much to gain as a player even in limited minutes to redshirt, in my opinion.


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[Jam 278]

Agree redshirting unlikely in this thirteen scholarship grad transfer era. It would be highly unusual for a healthy valuable contributor to stay 5 years.


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[Hardwood83 4,775]

15 hours ago, mdn82 said:

Me too. I think if we get Romeo, he is giving us around 10 ppg and hopefully 4 boards a game. That would be awesome.


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Absolutely. If he plays as much as I think he will (~22min/game) those numbers are conservative. Seemed like Justin had the right idea most of the time, but didn't finish often enough. I expect that to change in season 2. 

[The Baby Bull 280]

8 hours ago, Jam said:

Agree redshirting unlikely in this thirteen scholarship grad transfer era. It would be highly unusual for a healthy valuable contributor to stay 5 years.


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https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/colleges/with-six-redshirt-players-villanova-basketball-is-more-plus-one-than-one-and-done/2017/12/19/6c1e7cdc-df76-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.50ee92ac07d5

 

[Hoosiers96 912]

Not sure if it’s been posted anywhere but Trey Porter of Old Dominion hosted IU for an in-home visit on Sunday. CAM, Ostrom, and Schilling all in attendance. He plans to cut his list and make visits in the near future.

 

 

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[Brass Cannon 24,978]

3 minutes ago, Hoosiers96 said:

Not sure if it’s been posted anywhere but Trey Porter of Old Dominion hosted IU for an in-home visit on Sunday. CAM, Ostrom, and Schilling all in attendance. He plans to cut his list and make visits in the near future.

 

 

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Sweet. Him and Romeo would make us stellar. And if Devonte had play up to his skill consistently we can make real noise

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https://www.thedailyhoosier.com/recruiting-roundup-trey-porter-jahmius-ramsey-and-more/

[Blackmon_for_3 1,544]

Having Porter at the 5 would give Archie a tremendous amount of flexibility. It also means we can play DeRon in smaller spurts and hopefully keep him healthy. 

[Stuhoo 82,400]

5 minutes ago, Blackmon_for_3 said:

Having Porter at the 5 would give Archie a tremendous amount of flexibility. It also means we can play DeRon in smaller spurts and hopefully keep him healthy. 

 

To me? Having Porter at the 5 would indicate that DeRon may need a redshirt year. 

It could also give us a starting five of:

1. Green
2. Romeo
3. Justin
4. Juwan
5. Porter

McBob, Hunter, Phinisee, Al D, Race ... A lot of depth. A lot of size. A lot of athleticism. A little short on outside shooting. That roster could absolutely contend with a serious March run.

But, I am merely Tuesday-daydreaming with this scenario.