Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[bhaggard89]

Yeah, I'm fine with these guys "leaving early" to earn a paycheck at a skill that typically has a very short shelf life.  The NCAA has a lot to blame for the trend.  If you don't like it, contact the NCAA and let them know.  Just my opinion.  
Best of luck to all IU players in the NBA draft!  Come back during the off season and get your degree.

I put the blame on the NBA. The NCAA has no rule on minimum length in school, it's the NBA that makes the silly rule that allows one-and-done players.


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[Lebowski]

1 hour ago, bhaggard89 said:

I put the blame on the NBA. The NCAA has no rule on minimum length in school, it's the NBA that makes the silly rule that allows one-and-done players.


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Yeah, I suppose they have some role in it as well.  The NCAA isn't allowing any compensation to the student-athletes, which has a lot to do with the student-athlete's decision to pursue opportunity.  That's all I meant by my comment.  Again, I don't blame anybody declaring for a professional sport draft.  Money is money.  You can earn a degree anytime in your life.  

[recker222000]

I put the blame on the NBA. The NCAA has no rule on minimum length in school, it's the NBA that makes the silly rule that allows one-and-done players.


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I hate the nba

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

I hate the nba

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You hate everything


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[recker222000]

You hate everything


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Thats your opinion. Thanks for chimming as always.

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[Stuhoo]

4 hours ago, recker222000 said:

I hate the nba

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3 hours ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

You hate everything


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Don't make me pull out the "Pink Fuzzy Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows" you two ;)

 

[MartintheMopMan]

 
Don't make me pull out the "Pink Fuzzy Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows" you two ;)
 

Ugh, I really hope that isn't a euphemism for your purdue person.


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[Stuhoo]

Ugh, I really hope that isn't a euphemism for your purdue person.


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Nope.
That euphemism would be one's "Van Arsdale."

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan]

I hate the nba

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It's not near as good as it was when Bird, Johnson, Erving, Thomas, Garvin and those guys played. They played hard every game.

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[doyle1984]

If Rojo really wanted to come back he would have announced by now...he is for sure looking for his options out of B-Town. If he comes back it is because it was his last resort and if that's the case then I would rather have a Grad transfer who will be playing 100% for the name on the front of the jersey and not someone who came back to IU because nothing else popped up


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[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, iufaninillinois said:

It's not near as good as it was when Bird, Johnson, Erving, Thomas, Garvin and those guys played. They played hard every game.

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Players today take care of their bodies far better than the players of the past. They realize that going full throttle 100% of the time leads to shortened careers. 

[bigrod]

Players today take care of their bodies far better than the players of the past. They realize that going full throttle 100% of the time leads to shortened careers. 

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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[bigrod]

1 hour ago, Joe DeLow said:

Larry Bird is exactly a model of health anymore.


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I think he looks great for 97!

[reconmkd]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WWStiexkA&feature=player_embedded

I saw this on inside the hall. How refreshing would it have been over the last 8 years, if our offense was could react to a defense that shut down the transition offense in this way. To immediately react and not waste 15-20 seconds of shot clock trying to figure out what to do. Though it is still really early since CAM was hired, I really think he is going to flip the script on fundamentals at IU with all of the videos and articles I have seen that display "his" game. His players seem to know and understand how to counteract a defense and that is something that we have been missing for awhile.

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 hours ago, bigrod said:

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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Revisionist history. 30 years from now people will be saying the same thing about this group of players. It's easy to remember the good times without acknowledging that there were bad ones too. 

[Hoosierfan2017]

5 hours ago, bigrod said:

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

[goonaha]

12 hours ago, doyle1984 said:

If Rojo really wanted to come back he would have announced by now...he is for sure looking for his options out of B-Town. If he comes back it is because it was his last resort and if that's the case then I would rather have a Grad transfer who will be playing 100% for the name on the front of the jersey and not someone who came back to IU because nothing else popped up


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Pure conjecture. You can't substantiate anything because you do not know RoJo. If he wants to get out of Btown so bad I find it odd that he is still on campus as of Tuesday night. 

Secondly, thinking that a random grad transfer will for some reason play harder than someone who has been here for 3 years is also pure conjecture. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

2 hours ago, reconmkd said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WWStiexkA&feature=player_embedded

I saw this on inside the hall. How refreshing would it have been over the last 8 years, if our offense was could react to a defense that shut down the transition offense in this way. To immediately react and not waste 15-20 seconds of shot clock trying to figure out what to do. Though it is still really early since CAM was hired, I really think he is going to flip the script on fundamentals at IU with all of the videos and articles I have seen that display "his" game. His players seem to know and understand how to counteract a defense and that is something that we have been missing for awhile.

I watch this video and saw more screens in it than the last 9 years of Crean.  The video is only 5 minutes long.

[mdn82]

Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

Players also aren't playing 3/4 years of college. They are generally retiring at the same age.


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[Tom White]

1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

Not sure if those are the best players from the "previous generation to use as comparisons.

Sure, Bird had back problems largely due to his all-out style of play, but Isiah had a bad injury (which may or may not be addressed differently now) and Magic had HIV.