Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Stuhoo 89,758]

  On 5/10/2017 at 3:29 PM, recker222000 said:

I hate the nba

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  On 5/10/2017 at 4:46 PM, Walking Boot of Doom said:

You hate everything


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Don't make me pull out the "Pink Fuzzy Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows" you two ;)

 

[MartintheMopMan 7,765]

  On 5/10/2017 at 8:09 PM, Stuhoo said:

 
Don't make me pull out the "Pink Fuzzy Unicorns Dancing on Rainbows" you two ;)
 

Ugh, I really hope that isn't a euphemism for your purdue person.


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[Stuhoo 89,758]

  On 5/10/2017 at 8:26 PM, MartintheMopMan said:

Ugh, I really hope that isn't a euphemism for your purdue person.


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Nope.
That euphemism would be one's "Van Arsdale."

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,702]

  On 5/10/2017 at 3:29 PM, recker222000 said:

I hate the nba

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It's not near as good as it was when Bird, Johnson, Erving, Thomas, Garvin and those guys played. They played hard every game.

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[doyle1984 58]

If Rojo really wanted to come back he would have announced by now...he is for sure looking for his options out of B-Town. If he comes back it is because it was his last resort and if that's the case then I would rather have a Grad transfer who will be playing 100% for the name on the front of the jersey and not someone who came back to IU because nothing else popped up


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[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

  On 5/11/2017 at 2:26 AM, iufaninillinois said:

It's not near as good as it was when Bird, Johnson, Erving, Thomas, Garvin and those guys played. They played hard every game.

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Players today take care of their bodies far better than the players of the past. They realize that going full throttle 100% of the time leads to shortened careers. 

[bigrod 3,200]

  On 5/11/2017 at 3:42 AM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Players today take care of their bodies far better than the players of the past. They realize that going full throttle 100% of the time leads to shortened careers. 

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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[bigrod 3,200]

  On 5/11/2017 at 10:57 AM, Joe DeLow said:

Larry Bird is exactly a model of health anymore.


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I think he looks great for 97!

[reconmkd 4,750]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WWStiexkA&feature=player_embedded

I saw this on inside the hall. How refreshing would it have been over the last 8 years, if our offense was could react to a defense that shut down the transition offense in this way. To immediately react and not waste 15-20 seconds of shot clock trying to figure out what to do. Though it is still really early since CAM was hired, I really think he is going to flip the script on fundamentals at IU with all of the videos and articles I have seen that display "his" game. His players seem to know and understand how to counteract a defense and that is something that we have been missing for awhile.

[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

  On 5/11/2017 at 9:47 AM, bigrod said:

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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Revisionist history. 30 years from now people will be saying the same thing about this group of players. It's easy to remember the good times without acknowledging that there were bad ones too. 

[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

  On 5/11/2017 at 9:47 AM, bigrod said:

Wait, all those guys had nice long careers and still played hard.


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Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

[goonaha 2,974]

  On 5/11/2017 at 2:27 AM, doyle1984 said:

If Rojo really wanted to come back he would have announced by now...he is for sure looking for his options out of B-Town. If he comes back it is because it was his last resort and if that's the case then I would rather have a Grad transfer who will be playing 100% for the name on the front of the jersey and not someone who came back to IU because nothing else popped up


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Pure conjecture. You can't substantiate anything because you do not know RoJo. If he wants to get out of Btown so bad I find it odd that he is still on campus as of Tuesday night. 

Secondly, thinking that a random grad transfer will for some reason play harder than someone who has been here for 3 years is also pure conjecture. 

[Hoosier DaDa 3,770]

  On 5/11/2017 at 12:37 PM, reconmkd said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2WWStiexkA&feature=player_embedded

I saw this on inside the hall. How refreshing would it have been over the last 8 years, if our offense was could react to a defense that shut down the transition offense in this way. To immediately react and not waste 15-20 seconds of shot clock trying to figure out what to do. Though it is still really early since CAM was hired, I really think he is going to flip the script on fundamentals at IU with all of the videos and articles I have seen that display "his" game. His players seem to know and understand how to counteract a defense and that is something that we have been missing for awhile.

I watch this video and saw more screens in it than the last 9 years of Crean.  The video is only 5 minutes long.

[mdn82 26,344]

  On 5/11/2017 at 2:56 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

Players also aren't playing 3/4 years of college. They are generally retiring at the same age.


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[Tom White 1,435]

  On 5/11/2017 at 2:56 PM, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Bird only played 13 seasons. Magic played 12.5. Thomas played 13. Players today are playing longer than that. 

Vincer Carter just finished season 19. Kobe played 20. Paul Pierced played 19 years. LeBron is on year 14. Kevin Garnett played 21 years. 

Not sure if those are the best players from the "previous generation to use as comparisons.

Sure, Bird had back problems largely due to his all-out style of play, but Isiah had a bad injury (which may or may not be addressed differently now) and Magic had HIV. 

[waitingon6 167]

Kareem played 20 or 21 years, Malone and Stockton had long careers.

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[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

  On 5/11/2017 at 4:02 PM, Tom White said:

Not sure if those are the best players from the "previous generation to use as comparisons.

Sure, Bird had back problems largely due to his all-out style of play, but Isiah had a bad injury (which may or may not be addressed differently now) and Magic had HIV. 

I don't think they are either, I just used them because they were the names that were used. 

[Hoosierfan2017 25,030]

  On 5/11/2017 at 3:53 PM, mdn82 said:

Players also aren't playing 3/4 years of college. They are generally retiring at the same age.


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True, I didn't think about that. Takes us back to the "one and done sucks" discussion. Those guys were all instant contributors when they came into the league, thanks in large part to staying in college. Both leagues would be better off if players had to stay in college longer, but I digress lol. 

[Brass Cannon 25,452]

  On 5/11/2017 at 3:53 PM, mdn82 said:

Players also aren't playing 3/4 years of college. They are generally retiring at the same age.


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Has there been a study on that always been curious.

[mdn82 26,344]

  On 5/11/2017 at 5:41 PM, Joe DeLow said:

It would be interesting to see the average amount of years for players now and then.


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It's always been about 4.5 years for players. Hard to cherry pick stars and track as there are extenuating circumstances in both eras. But the average player doesn't last long.


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