Player and Recruit Retention News/Discussion & Potential Transfers

[Trish 12,153]

8 hours ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Gelon is LIT right now at Josh Newkirk's birthday party. I keep waiting to see Archie show up with the pizza for everyone. 

 

Perfect time to tell him he's been Crean'd! 

[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,630]

Per Alex B:  Indiana signee Justin Smith is ranked No. 88 in the final ESPN 100 for the class of 2017.

[Stromboli 6,094]

13 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Per Alex B:  Indiana signee Justin Smith is ranked No. 88 in the final ESPN 100 for the class of 2017.

 

He's #1 in my heart.

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14 hours ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said:

Jonathon Giovanny tweeted a story about some kids today and Moore was one. Basically to sum it up he said he could be an NBA player if he learns how to be more aggressive. All Moore's knocks were things that could easily change and should. I believe that he won't be here for 4 years and think his sophomore year he is gonna be one of our top players. Him and DD along with Smith, Phinisee and Romeo would compete for a title. Romeo is still a long shot but that would be awesome team. Juwan probably still starts but Moore will be our 6th man.

Point being the future is BRIGHT at IU under Archie.

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I just don't see Moore being the sixth man even if TB stays in the draft.

[recker222000 1,010]

I just don't see Moore being the sixth man even if TB stays in the draft.

I doubt tb comes back so Moore will see action.

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[drewheck 749]

looks like gelon is staying

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[Trish 12,153]

49 minutes ago, drewheck said:

looks like gelon is staying

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I really don't think Thomas and James stay in the draft, let alone Rojo. Someone has to go and the first person on the list is Gelon. I don't see how Gelon gets a single minute with this team next year.

 

Archie has to know something..

[drewheck 749]

I really don't think Thomas and James stay in the draft, let alone Rojo. Someone has to go and the first person on the list is Gelon. I don't see how Gelon gets a single minute with this team next year.
 
Archie has to know something..

Imo. Blackmons euro league or d league tb has alot to gain by coming back still slot of dominoes left to fall

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[IU Hambone 141]

I keep seeing the phrase "Archie must know something" in regards to the oversigning situation. Just my opinion, but we should consider the possibility that he's as uncertain as we are (or at least less certain than some believe). If the guys without an agent were certain they were leaving, particularly TB and JBJ, they just would have just hired an agent. If the players aren't certain, then neither is their coach that they just met a few weeks ago. The fact that he went after the existing recruits just tells us he thought they were quality players that he thought he could acquire given the difficulties of recruiting for at a new position. I think he's hedging his bets. He must know that no one can reasonably criticize him for "Creaning" (if those guys come back) given that it's a situation that he inherited. I'm very optimistic about CAM, but let's keep in mind that these are kids that have no idea what they want and that this is what Crean left him if he has to "cut" guys.

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[reconmkd 4,605]

This is just an thought, not sourced but just thinking. What if Hartman's return is not on scholly? That would free up another spot and if JBJ decides to play for money where ever that might be, we would be ok. Hartman already has his Bachelor's, I think this past year, and is working on his Master's. There has been a lot of discussion recently about player's playing their final year without scholarships, maybe this could be one of those cases that Hartman bought into CAMs vision for next season and knows the over signed scholly situation and since he has his bachelor's and most likely a nice cushy job after this year, maybe he came back paying his own way, or some other way, to finish his master's and make a run in the tourney. Just a thought. I really don't like the situation that was left for Miller to contend with, but I don't think it will take him long to straighten this mess out.

[bigrod 2,915]

10 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

This is just an thought, not sourced but just thinking. What if Hartman's return is not on scholly? That would free up another spot and if JBJ decides to play for money where ever that might be, we would be ok. Hartman already has his Bachelor's, I think this past year, and is working on his Master's. There has been a lot of discussion recently about player's playing their final year without scholarships, maybe this could be one of those cases that Hartman bought into CAMs vision for next season and knows the over signed scholly situation and since he has his bachelor's and most likely a nice cushy job after this year, maybe he came back paying his own way, or some other way, to finish his master's and make a run in the tourney. Just a thought. I really don't like the situation that was left for Miller to contend with, but I don't think it will take him long to straighten this mess out.

I've wondered the same thing about a guy like Priller. If he will have his degree after this semester, maybe he is willing to move on, knowing the scholarship situation.

[Bowhunter 2,733]

I'm guessing one goes to play professionally and one player leaves

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[Jam 278]

Priller missed games because of lack of progress toward a degree this season. Highly doubt he is graduating early.

[HoosierAloha 30,077]

Priller missed games because of lack of progress toward a degree this season. Highly doubt he is graduating early.

I chose the route to pursue two bachelor degrees, as it sounds like Priller did the same. Looking back, I have no idea why I didn't finish one and just go to grad school. I wonder if Priller didn't do that so he couldn't be so easily moved?

[Class of '66 Old Fart 86,630]

49 minutes ago, bigrod said:

I've wondered the same thing about a guy like Priller. If he will have his degree after this semester, maybe he is willing to move on, knowing the scholarship situation.

Wouldn't bet on it.  MSB is living the dream of his life and I think he's more than content to sit at the end of the bench in his candystripes and be a Hoosier.  His exuberance on the bench is something I really enjoy and I'm looking forward to his senior speech next year.  And IMO there's zero chance he gets 'Creaned'.  The scholarship problem will be resolved but it won't involve MSB.

[JaybobHoosier 12,010]

I keep seeing the phrase "Archie must know something" in regards to the oversigning situation. Just my opinion, but we should consider the possibility that he's as uncertain as we are (or at least less certain than some believe). If the guys without an agent were certain they were leaving, particularly TB and JBJ, they just would have just hired an agent. If the players aren't certain, then neither is their coach that they just met a few weeks ago. The fact that he went after the existing recruits just tells us he thought they were quality players that he thought he could acquire given the difficulties of recruiting for at a new position. I think he's hedging his bets. He must know that no one can reasonably criticize him for "Creaning" (if those guys come back) given that it's a situation that he inherited. I'm very optimistic about CAM, but let's keep in mind that these are kids that have no idea what they want and that this is what Crean left him if he has to "cut" guys.

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Really good take, and I could see Archie being in the middle of those two thoughts. I think he has a game plan, but is uncertain how everything will play out with JBJ, Bryant, and RoJo. It's hard for anyone to predict even though we have a good idea of what the players should do based on what we saw this entire season(s).

If all three come back, and then we lose players like Gelon and McSwain, we could be a top 10 team. There was no excuse not to be a top 25 team last year........

A lot of possibilities, but could end up being a top year if all things fall into place :)


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[Trish 12,153]

1 hour ago, Jam said:

Priller missed games because of lack of progress toward a degree this season. Highly doubt he is graduating early.

He did so because he's going after two degrees. 

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1 hour ago, JaybobHoosier said:

 

Really good take, and I could see Archie being in the middle of those two thoughts. I think he has a game plan, but is uncertain how everything will play out with JBJ, Bryant, and RoJo. It's hard for anyone to predict even though we have a good idea of what the players should do based on what we saw this entire season(s).

If all three come back, and then we lose players like Gelon and McSwain, we could be a top 10 team. There was no excuse not to be a top 25 team last year........

A lot of possibilities, but could end up being a top year if all things fall into place :)


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Nice to see you back.  Is this your first post back?

[Stuhoo 83,280]

 

Final 247 rankings for our 2017 class:

Justin Smith at #73 (up two spots)

Clifton Moore at #138 (up three spots)

Al Durham, Jr at #166 (up 66 spots)

Seems like his Derby Festival performance may have given Al a major bump. He looked really good.

 

[JaybobHoosier 12,010]

Nice to see you back.  Is this your first post back?

No, I've made a couple here and there, but not much. Thanks for the kind words. Missed talking with everyone!


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