TOM CREAN FIRED

[sirhoosierlot]

1 minute ago, reconmkd said:

Ugh! The suspense is killing me! I think I even have more gray hair now! For the love of Pete, someone break the news already so I can return to normal programming.

For real. I haven't gotten anything done at work all week lol 

[Hoosier Guy]

We need 200 more pages before this weekend haha. We need to hit 1000

[Walking Boot of Doom]

Agree. I was making a joke.


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Saw someone mention it earlier that Crean still needed to "win" the MU job. Sorry for the confusion.

That said, had a Mizzou alum friend text me saying how excited they were at the chance to get Crean. Believes Crean could turn the program around quickly (a few years) and make them relevant again in a conference where he just needs to beat the team he seemingly coaches his best against (Kentucky). Mizzou wants Crean, and he's such a great fit there. That program won't recruit itself, but Crean can recruit (I know many have questioned this) the type of players that will develop and become multi-year studs at a program like Mizzou. He brings energy and excitement to a program, which Mizzou sorely lacks given their miserable performance. He could also be a great champion for a campus that is failing culturally. They really need someone to bring momentum to the team and school. Crean is certainly a strong candidate for that kind of thing.


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[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Hoosier Guy said:

We need 200 more pages before this weekend haha. We need to hit 1000

We can just retitle it to say he's fired. Let's celebrate. 

[Hoosier Guy]

1 minute ago, Brass Cannon said:

We can just retitle it to say he's fired. Let's celebrate. 

Yeah he's done. There was never a doubt in my mind

[reconmkd]

1 minute ago, sirhoosierlot said:

For real. I haven't gotten anything done at work all week lol 

I haven't either. Glad big brother is not live streaming my screen for the last week! Had to travel to a project site today, with the app on the whole time, Lol.

[JSHoosier]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Saw someone mention it earlier that Crean still needed to "win" the MU job. Sorry for the confusion.

That said, had a Mizzou alum friend text me saying how excited they were at the chance to get Crean. Believes Crean could turn the program around quickly (a few years) and make them relevant again in a conference where he just needs to beat the team he seemingly coaches his best against (Kentucky). Mizzou wants Crean, and he's such a great fit there. That program won't recruit itself, but Crean can recruit (I know many have questioned this) the type of players that will develop and become multi-year studs at a program like Mizzou. He brings energy and excitement to a program, which Mizzou sorely lacks given their miserable performance. He could also be a great champion for a campus that is failing culturally. They really need someone to bring momentum to the team and school. Crean is certainly a strong candidate for that kind of thing.


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I would agree a non-pUKe SEC school would be a good fit for him, they don't have the expectations that come with a historical blue blood.

As for recruiting, I've said he's been overrated here as he's good but not great like he's often made to be.  He hasn't shown to be particularly good in terms of roster or class balance.

[recker222000]

Pretty vague answer tbh. I would be way more concerned if he said something like "look forward to being here next year" or "I want to be here for years to come". Nothing of that sort came out. Still think he's gone 

If Fred keeps quiet I think he is gone.

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[coonhounds]

That's not an article... that's a news release of an investigation into the entire situation by UI President Skorton. I'd recommend giving it a longer read through...


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I have read it and understand but still dont know all the facts. At least we agree iu should not hire him. Lets leave ot at that and hope we dont have to hash this out for the next 5 years lol. I hope are next coach we can all get behind and actually support lol

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[Walking Boot of Doom]

I would agree a non-pUKe SEC school would be a good fit for him, they don't have the expectations that come with a historical blue blood.

As for recruiting, I've said he's been overrated here as he's good but not great like he's often made to be.  He hasn't shown to be particularly good in terms of roster or class balance.

Agreed. I think recruiting expectations of a blueblood (5 stars all day) are too high for him and he tried to meet those and flopped (The Movement, recent big misses). His sweet spot is that 50-150 range and developing those guys, which is beyond expectations of a program like Mizzou.


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[Cheaney40]

800!

Congrats on getting us there!

[Stuhoo]

Quoted statements Tom Crean could have made to Doyle if he chose to:

• "I will be the basketball coach at Indiana University next year."
• "I have no interest in any job other than the head coach at Indiana University."
• "Neither i nor any of my representatives have had any contact with any other school."
• "I will not be leaving Indiana University as long as Indiana is willing to keep me as head coach."

By the way, when he chooses to, Tom Crean has the ability to very clearly state his love for IU and the job he has.

[Hurryin'Hoosier317]

So I've been off of here for awhile. What's the running theory for our next coach?


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[reconmkd]

Just now, Hurryin'Hoosier317 said:

So I've been off of here for awhile. What's the running theory for our next coach?


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Your guess is as good as ours! Its all over the place lately.

[8bucks]

Quoted statements Tom Crean could have made to Doyle if he chose to:

• "I will be the basketball coach at Indiana University next year."
• "I have no interest in any job other than the head coach at Indiana University."
• "Neither i nor any of my representatives have had any contact with any other school."
• "I will not be leaving Indiana University as long as Indiana is willing to keep me as head coach."

By the way, when he chooses to, Tom Crean has the ability to very clearly state his love for IU and the job he has.

Makes you wonder if Doyle gets done with that and says well that should convince them.

[Maynard]

24 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

This will be interesting. Crean poses as a man of ultimate integrity. This blanket denial would be a flat out lie if he moves on after the season.

UNLESS Fred fires him.


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I've got to disagree with you here.  I think in this instance the reporter asked a question that he had no business asking in this situation.  Crean's denial isn't a matter of integrity in this case, it is a matter of protecting his team.  Those kids deserve his best and the best chance to succeed in this tournament.  He could have just been shielding his team from the distraction.  It could be up for debate whether or not he acted in the best way, but being put on the spot is difficult.

[hoosierknight1]

Agree - did anyone notice the student manager in the background. When Crean said that the manager made two marks in his book. I could barely read the front but it looked like it said "deflections"

*golf clap*


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[JSHoosier]

44 minutes ago, Capt. Crimson said:

Crean just denied interest in Mizz job... "I want to put that to rest"

Article from Indy Star

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2017/03/09/indiana-hoosiers-tom-crean-leaving-missouri/98957236/

Relevant part...

"No, that's not true," Crean told Doyel as he was preparing his Hoosiers for Thursday's Big Ten tournament game. "I'm doing nothing but coaching this team.

"Normally, I don't comment on my job or any other open job, or on any speculation at all — and going forward, this is the only time I will do it, here to you — but I want to put that to rest. I'm coaching my team. I love coaching here."

"I love coaching here" sounds kind of like Calipari's "Memphis is where I want to be" comment a week before he left for pUKe in the middle of the night.

[Walking Boot of Doom]

So I've been off of here for awhile. What's the running theory for our next coach?


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Billy D said no. But wait! Maybe he didn't, and we're still talking.

Fred Glass was at the MVC tournament, and Jay Bilas says Gregg Marshall is Btown bound to relieve his goodie good twin of his coaching duties.

Alford is involved in another cover-up, but this time it's his abismal tournament history (or lack there of considering he's missed it more times than he's taken his teams dancing) as he tries to convince Indiana that his resume is actually not a copy/paste of Crean's.

Sean Miller is currently sweating through his shirt, wondering if it's time to leave the desert heat.

And Brad Stevens is too busy living it up in Boston to answer calls from the annoying girl back home who won't give up on her love for him.




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[reconmkd]

1 minute ago, Walking Boot of Doom said:

Billy D said no. But wait! Maybe he didn't, and we're still talking.

Fred Glass was at the MVC tournament, and Jay Bilas says Gregg Marshall is Btown bound to relieve his goodie good twin of his coaching duties.

Alford is involved in another cover-up, but this time it's his abismal tournament history (or lack there of considering he's missed it more times than he's taken his teams dancing) as he tries to convince Indiana that his resume is actually not a copy/paste of Crean's.

Sean Miller is currently sweating through his shirt, wondering if it's time to leave the desert heat.

And Brad Stevens is too busy living it up in Boston to answer calls from the annoying girl back home who won't give up on her love for him.




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Very nice summary!