Brass Cannon Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 4 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said: We may wish Crean was a goner already but let's not discredit what he has done either. Every coach has players that didnt pan out not just Crean but Crean has gotten everyone of his 5 stars in the NBA at this point and has also got 4 or 5 more guys. Some who were never looked at as NBA prospects before he got them. Diener, Novak, Matthews, Victor, and Troy. Heck even Yogi was gonna be difficult because of size. He may not have done the best but you could argue he did as well or better than he should would most of those kids. I think he could be better but he is actually respected through NBA circles. Every player that has left had the correct info. Yogi and Troy both said 2nd or undrafted. Victor knew he was a lottery pick as well as Cody and Noah. Yes mocks and scouts help too but let us not act like he didnt have anything to do with it. He just couldnt take those guys to the next step as a whole. I have always thought individually he did fine but he never grasped the talent together. I hate that he has made us a joke this year but I do wish him well just like any coach that comes here runs a clean program and stresses student athlete I would do the same for them. Doesn't mean I think they should always be our head coach. Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Getting a 5 star to the NBA isn't difficult. I think 99 percent make it there. And JBJ will probably be the 1 percent. Tom White 1 Quote
Hoosierfan2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 30 minutes ago, JSHoosier said: I disagree that Crean is a good coach. I'll say he shows flashes of being a good coach, but he shows just as many flashes of being a bumbling idiot. Overall I'd say he's a mediocre coach, and a good not great recruiter. There are worse, I'll agree on that front. I don't think he's consistent enough to be considered a good coach. Good coaches know how to build rosters. Crean is horrible when it comes to roster management. Our good teams are almost always lacking an important piece and our bad teams lack several. Good coaches don't go through rebuilds as often as he does. His approach would probably work at a school that doesn't care about basketball where a sweet 16 every few years would make him a god, but he's in way over his head at IU. Tom White 1 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I was curious as to how long it would take for a new "Fire (Insert Head Coach Name)" thread on here. Perhaps a pool needs to be started? A day lolSent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
mdn82 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Just remember everyone if it's not Billy don't burn the place down. Let's burn this mother down pookie lol.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER and Brass Cannon 2 Quote
Redandyz Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I honestly cannot see IU making a change and telling Crean he is gone unless the new coach is a done deal. Why would Glass and Co. risk not getting a home run hire? What if they fire Crean and lose out on all of the desired coaches? I don't see them taking that risk. I would think, even as disastrous as this season has been, that Glass would stand pat or at least wait until the season was over to make a decision. If there is an ounce of truth to the rumor that Crean has already been told he's gone then they already have their guy. We just have to wait until the end of season for it to play out.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Bgrimm4 and Brass Cannon 2 Quote
KingPG21 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 48 minutes ago, Yogi's Picnic Basket said: We may wish Crean was a goner already but let's not discredit what he has done either. Every coach has players that didnt pan out not just Crean but Crean has gotten everyone of his 5 stars in the NBA at this point and has also got 4 or 5 more guys. Some who were never looked at as NBA prospects before he got them. Diener, Novak, Matthews, Victor, and Troy. Heck even Yogi was gonna be difficult because of size. He may not have done the best but you could argue he did as well or better than he should would most of those kids. I think he could be better but he is actually respected through NBA circles. Every player that has left had the correct info. Yogi and Troy both said 2nd or undrafted. Victor knew he was a lottery pick as well as Cody and Noah. Yes mocks and scouts help too but let us not act like he didnt have anything to do with it. He just couldnt take those guys to the next step as a whole. I have always thought individually he did fine but he never grasped the talent together. I hate that he has made us a joke this year but I do wish him well just like any coach that comes here runs a clean program and stresses student athlete I would do the same for them. Doesn't mean I think they should always be our head coach. Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Troy was a top 55/60 recruit coming out of high school. He was described as being raw, since he mostly got away with just being way more physically and athletically gifted than the guys he was competing against in high school. Most people were talking about him being a draft pick after 2-3 years, and at worst as a senior. He doesn't fit with that group you listed as never being looked at as NBA prospects. Quote
Yogi's Picnic Basket Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Troy was a top 55/60 recruit coming out of high school. He was described as being raw, since he mostly got away with just being way more physically and athletically gifted than the guys he was competing against in high school. Most people were talking about him being a draft pick after 2-3 years, and at worst as a senior. He doesn't fit with that group you listed as never being looked at as NBA prospects. I dont really think many saw him as a NBA kid. Potential yeah but a lot of kids have the potential. Even top 60 kids in class each year arent gonna have a shot. Each draft has up to 4 classes of top 60 guys, foreign players and the ones who outplay their rankings. I get what your saying though just dont ever remember anyone truly thinking he was an NBA player at all until after his sophomore year. Sent from my LGLS676 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Tom White Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I honestly cannot see IU making a change and telling Crean he is gone unless the new coach is a done deal. Why would Glass and Co. risk not getting a home run hire? What if they fire Crean and lose out on all of the desired coaches? I don't see them taking that risk. I would think, even as disastrous as this season has been, that Glass would stand pat or at least wait until the season was over to make a decision. If there is an ounce of truth to the rumor that Crean has already been told he's gone then they already have their guy. We just have to wait until the end of season for it to play out.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile appOr maybe, as odd as it sounds, it was Crean's idea to leave? ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
MoyeNeeded Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I need me some PRILLA!Sent from my SM-G930P using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
HoosierSadaseci Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 1 hour ago, Dalton26 said: Just remember everyone if it's not Billy don't burn the place down. How about our couches? ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
HoosierSadaseci Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Oh, yeah, Fire Tom Crean. ALASKA HOOSIER, kottke and bnkepner 3 Quote
Trish Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 This game changes nothing. Fire him. If anything, this should make his seat even hotter. Hoosierfan2017, ALASKA HOOSIER and Feathery 3 Quote
dallas44 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Anybody with even minimal basketball knowledge, can see our team only does well when shooting lights out from 3. As is keeping Crean, depending on the 3 is a bad strategy.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
recker222000 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 This game changes nothing. Fire him. If anything, this should make his seat even hotter. What if he wins the NIT. I think Fred would save him again.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
HoosierSadaseci Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Oh, snap, during the game they were talking about if IU makes a run in the BTT that they may sneak back onto the bubble. Fortunately Tom Crean has an awful history in the BTT. Quote
HoosierSadaseci Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 Just now, recker222000 said: What if he wins the NIT. I think Fred would save him again. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk I honestly think a decision will be made before the NIT. Quote
recker222000 Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 I honestly think a decision will be made before the NIT. I'm just nervous. I just don't trust glass.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
Scooter D Posted March 4, 2017 Posted March 4, 2017 2 minutes ago, HoosierSadaseci said: Oh, snap, during the game they were talking about if IU makes a run in the BTT that they may sneak back onto the bubble. Fortunately Tom Crean has an awful history in the BTT. Correction...IU has an awful record in the BTT...does not really matter the coach. coonhounds and Hoosier Guy 2 Quote
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