TOM CREAN FIRED

[LIHoosier 25,799]

8 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

After last night's beatdown by Michigan:

"The turnovers are a joke, and that all should fall on me. So, don't even bother ripping them, just look at me."

- Tom Izzo

 

Don't recall ever hearing CTC say anything like this after a loss.

Izzo has personal accountability, a sound team defense(for most years), and a tough non-con schedule to have his team prepared for B1G play and March.

Did Crean spend his tenure under Izzo with his hands over his ears yelling, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"?

[TheWatShot 13,634]

1 minute ago, LIHoosier said:

Izzo has personal accountability, a sound team defense(for most years), and a tough non-con schedule to have his team prepared for B1G play and March.

Did Crean spend his tenure under Izzo with his hands over his ears yelling, "LA LA LA LA LA LA LA"?

No, he was too busy yelling "FASTER! FASTER! FASTER!" and spent most of the practices watching for deflections. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

12 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

His season will end late May. He is not coming to IU. We will not go 2+ months without a coach. Summer session starts before he would get hired.


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Unless the Celtics bow out early

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

9 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

No, he was too busy yelling "FASTER! FASTER! FASTER!" and spent most of the practices watching for deflections. 

And don't forget playing with his pants and clapping at every little thing

[mdn82 25,510]

Unless the Celtics bow out early

The Cavs window is closing fast. They have upside. That move just does not make sense. I swear the only way for fans to get over him is if he came out and said he hates us. He just signed an extension where both him and Ainge said this will put the college questions to rest. It has not. He has said numerous times he isn't going anywhere. People still think it's possible. Why? Hope?


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[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

1 minute ago, mdn82 said:

The Cavs window is closing fast. They have upside. That move just does not make sense. I swear the only way for fans to get over him is if he came out and said he hates us. He just signed an extension where both him and Ainge said this will put the college questions to rest. It has not. He has said numerous times he isn't going anywhere. People still think it's possible. Why? Hope?


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I just said it earlier. He signed a long term extension with Butler and left for the Celtics. So that tells me right there it's possible

[southernindianahoosier 422]

The Cavs window is closing fast. They have upside. That move just does not make sense. I swear the only way for fans to get over him is if he came out and said he hates us. He just signed an extension where both him and Ainge said this will put the college questions to rest. It has not. He has said numerous times he isn't going anywhere. People still think it's possible. Why? Hope?


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Because he spoke at a boys&girls club banquet in Indy and spoke a bunch on how much he missed the comradery of the college game. Then on DP he said they he didn't not like recruiting at the college level. Plus he went to 2 national championship games and lost... How could anyone be fine with not attempting to win that championship ever again?

[mdn82 25,510]

Because he spoke at a boys&girls club banquet in Indy and spoke a bunch on how much he missed the comradery of the college game. Then on DP he said they he didn't not like recruiting at the college level. Plus he went to 2 national championship games and lost... How could anyone be fine with not attempting to win that championship ever again?

Because he is coaching the Celtics and they are good?


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[JSHoosier 19,816]

9 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

I just said it earlier. He signed a long term extension with Butler and left for the Celtics. So that tells me right there it's possible

To be fair, that's going from college to the NBA.  Bloomington isn't better than Boston, but that's not why you make the call.  You go in with the mindset that you're going to get your guy and make an offer they can't refuse, do what it takes to get the guy you want.  You cannot have the mindset that it's a waste of time, if you do you may as well not even call; I could hear it now, "hello Coach Stevens, would you be...you know what, I'm going to hang up on myself now".

Yes, Ainge and Stevens said during the press conference it'd put the college questions to rest.  What else would you expect them to say?

[mdn82 25,510]

I just said it earlier. He signed a long term extension with Butler and left for the Celtics. So that tells me right there it's possible

It was 3 years after he signed. Money was better. It was also the Boston Celtics.


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[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

7 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

It was 3 years after he signed. Money was better. It was also the Boston Celtics.


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He still left with 9 years remaining on his contract

[Hoosierfan2017 20,835]

Honestly I want to move past Stevens as a possibility and focus on other guys. It would be great to get him, but I don't see it ever happening. He's in a nice position with Boston. In 2-3 years they'll probably be the favorites in the East. Coming to IU would be a pretty big downgrade from his current job. If he really does miss the college game Duke would take him, imo. I would love for him to come here because he's a once in a generation type coach, but I don't think we can wait in limbo hoping he picks us. We need to make a move soon so we can get the program back on the right track. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

9 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

To be fair, that's going from college to the NBA.  Bloomington isn't better than Boston, but that's not why you make the call.  You go in with the mindset that you're going to get your guy and make an offer they can't refuse, do what it takes to get the guy you want.  You cannot have the mindset that it's a waste of time, if you do you may as well not even call; I could hear it now, "hello Coach Stevens, would you be...you know what, I'm going to hang up on myself now".

Yes, Ainge and Stevens said during the press conference it'd put the college questions to rest.  What else would you expect them to say?

Yes going from college to the NBA is different because NBA is the highest level of basketball in the world. A lot of people would kill to be a HC for any team, let alone the Boston Celtics. But Brad being from Indiana, I think he would come back

[Class of '66 Old Fart 83,848]

Just now, Hoosier Guy said:

He still left with 9 years remaining on his contract

Length of contracts is mostly meaningless certainly in pro sports but also in college basketball and football where oftentimes the length is for cosmetic purposes in aiding recruiting.

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

Just now, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Length of contracts is mostly meaningless certainly in pro sports but also in college basketball and football where oftentimes the length is for cosmetic purposes in aiding recruiting.

Yes length of contracts has as much to do with recruting as the guy being a good HC. All I'm saying is there is a chance. If he's not the first call, something is wrong with Fred Glass

[Jeff_Boy_Ardee 1,311]

He didn't really give himself much time to do that. He was there for 5 years and the 1st year was rebuilding a pretty bad team. His 2nd year he took ISU to the tourney for the first time since 2005. Not much of a sample size.


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Devil's advocate, but "he was there for 5 years and the 1st year was rebuilding a pretty bad team" sounds very similar to what we could say about Crean after year 5 and look where we are. Not sure Hoiberg is the answer. Though I don't have the answer either.

[AKHoosier 6,739]

35 minutes ago, mdn82 said:

The Cavs window is closing fast. They have upside. That move just does not make sense. I swear the only way for fans to get over him is if he came out and said he hates us. He just signed an extension where both him and Ainge said this will put the college questions to rest. It has not. He has said numerous times he isn't going anywhere. People still think it's possible. Why? Hope?


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Yeah it's pretty clear if Stevens did make a move to IU from Boston, it would not be a basketball decision.  It would be more about moving his family back to the Midwest in the state he spent most of his life.  The decision would pretty much be a lifestyle decision more than a basketball one, it would just be up to him where he sees the best fit.

He probably does see himself coaching IU one day though, whether it's at age 40 or 55. Maybe, we can hope, he won't want to pass up the opportunity because he isn't sure when he'll get another one.  But I agree, he'd be borderline crazy to leave that situation in Boston.  He's coaching one of the best franchises in all of sports, and their arrow is pointed sky high right now.  They're a draft pick or free agent away from being a legit championship contender.

[mdn82 25,510]

Yes length of contracts has as much to do with recruting as the guy being a good HC. All I'm saying is there is a chance. If he's not the first call, something is wrong with Fred Glass

I would be shocked if that call hasn't been made in some way shape or form. I highly doubt if Glass doesn't know whether Stevens is worth going after. If we don't go after him in public view it doesn't mean he wasn't our first call.


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[HoosierTrav 7,731]

We all know he's going to be recruiting Gordon Hayward to the Celtics this summer. Stevens coming to Indiana isn't going to happen:(

 

 

I agree it's a pipe dream. It will take an act of God.

[HoosierTrav 7,731]

 

 

Easy pass. Won with Calhouns guys and hasn't won **** since.

 

 

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He's been AWFUL since.. lol. Should have taken that Lakers job while his stock was high.