#348 MVSU vs. #3 Indiana Game Thread

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

9 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

1)  I'm sure this is a dumb question, but does this mean we essentially turn it over on 1 out of every 4 possessions?

2)  I'm just unclear if kenpom uses anything else to come up with the turnover rate.

3)  If so, that's hideous.  Imagine how many more shots or free throws we could make if we brought that number down just a little.

YUP as to #1 and #3 - can't answer #2.

[Brass Cannon]

3 hours ago, hurryinghoosier5 said:

If we beat UNC, all of the people that are being so negative are right back on the bandwagon. Kind of annoying, but I get it. Being a fan is emotional.


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Not even remotely. Whoopdie do we beat a good team at the hall we have been doing that for years. 

A road game against anybody is a complete toss up and that is 100% percent unacceptable. 

[Hoosier Roots]

Freddie looked better this game
Prillar looks better this year


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[mdn82]

Lol I love basketball season.


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[Hoosierfan2017]

40 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Not even remotely. Whoopdie do we beat a good team at the hall we have been doing that for years. 

A road game against anybody is a complete toss up and that is 100% percent unacceptable. 

A win will get people back off the ledge at least. If we get blown out though... I'd hate to be a mod that night. 

[Alford Bailey]

Only thing this game really tells me is we need OG especially on the defensive end.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Why I keep from saying anything much here. I think before last season I was always getting ripped for opinions. Mainly come here to read anymore with a comment here or there


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I might have to go that route also


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It's often me against the masses. I can usually handle it though.
This board is still the best. I think this board in general, represents the more optimistic of Hoosier fans. I know the Hoosier fans I talk to in Fort Wayne are far less optimistic than we see here. The fans I sat with and around for the IPFW game had the same complaints we see here and then some. Hang in there guys and keep posting. Differing views are important.


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[HoosierAloha]

It's often me against the masses. I can usually handle it though.
This board is still the best. I think this board in general, represents the more optimistic of Hoosier fans. I know the Hoosier fans I talk to in Fort Wayne are far less optimistic than we see here. The fans I sat with and around for the IPFW game had the same complaints we see here and then some. Hang in there guys and keep posting. Differing views are important.


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I would agree with this. I'm more optimistic on here, posting not DMs, than I am in person. Unfortunately, there are things that Crean just doesn't understand about the game of basketball. I've given up hope that they'll change but won't stop rooting for the Hoosiers.

[HoosierAloha]

Wouldn't be much fun if we all had the same viewpoint

Some people like only the boob, some only the nips, and others like the whole thing!

[pappy1865]

16 hours ago, The Ola Depot said:

I think we all have forgotten Crean's comments before the season started after the Kansas game. This team is not even close to their full potential and where most of them will eventually be. We are a good team and will be even better later.

 

16 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

http://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/indiana/2016/11/27/iu-cruises-but-issues-remain-ahead-north-carolina/94444748/


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These.  Read that article this morning.  Listened to the whole game, minus a few minutes getting the 4-1/2 year old away from grandma and grandpa and into the car.  One game doesn't mean a thing, one way or another.  Look, you all know I'm an ISU grad, and support them as well as the team I've watched for 41+ years.  Sycamores lost 3 games, all in the last seconds/buzzer beater misses since Thanksgiving Day.  They're still going to be alright in the MVC.  

Point is, like others are saying, the Hoosiers have work to do, no doubt.  A healthy OG against IPFW, and those several "3's" by Rojo that, well, know you spot man, and things would be peachy for everyone.  As my dad always says, "It's why they play the games."

Go Hoosiers, beat UNC!

[HoosierAloha]

Food for thought, something I've been thinking about since the IPFW game and something that really jumped out in the MVSU game.

What defensive style does IU run under Crean?

We went zone against MVSU... I get these games are meant as live practice games to experiment with different sets but we struggled to keep the #348 ranked team in front of us.

On several possessions in the first half we went from switching everything on the perimeter to not switching. This had several players confused when/if they were switching. Is this necessary?

The best defenses year in and year out have a system that they implement and stick with. Virginia and Wiscy run a pack line. Louisville runs non stop pressure. What is IU's under Crean? Should it be something that's changed?

[WayneFleekHoosier]

The simple answer is probably. When we seem to have problems contains simple dribble drive offense year after year, red flags raise.

I thought this year with our personnel would be the end of that but we still seem vulnerable to straight line attacks at the rim. I don't get it.


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[WayneFleekHoosier]

Even OG gets the corner turned on him.


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[HoosierAloha]

The simple answer is probably. When we seem to have problems contains simple dribble drive offense year after year, red flags raise.

I thought this year with our personnel would be the end of that but we still seem vulnerable to straight line attacks at the rim. I don't get it.


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I thought (hoped) it would change this season as well. We have several players that should be plus defenders but the scheme seems a bit flawed. Newkirk, Green, CuJo, and RoJo should be able to pressure on the perimeter with guys like TB and DD at the rim. JMo and OG are versatile defenders but seemed to not be where they were last season. It's odd.

[ALASKA HOOSIER]

indeed! I was watching the MVSU game just to watch the defense and every play...someone was out of position or not closing fast or whatever. Our guards that were here last year weren't keeping the guys in front of them. what the heck is going on?

[MartintheMopMan]

Shoot. Forgot we had a game until I started getting post-game podcasts.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

11 minutes ago, MartintheMopMan said:

Shoot. Forgot we had a game until I started getting post-game podcasts.