(2017) PF Billy Preston to Kansas

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,035]

Small battle losses add up to large battle losses at some point.

And what's the definition of fine? Unranked next preseason if JB, OG, TB leave. If those three leave plus our recruiting class, no way we are ranked next preseason.




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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,035]

Found success for a few games? I'm not worried about a few games, more the trajectory of the program. Being fouls or an injury away from a 6-7 center is not ideal.

I wouldn't really call it success either. I remember those games. Never had a chance against a true blue blood program with that roster makeup.


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[CR3AMnCR1MS0N 1,867]

It's alright guys. Senior Tim Priller will have our backs!

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I wouldn't really call it success either. I remember those games. Never had a chance against a true blue blood program with that roster makeup.


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That team beat #13 Maryland by 20


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,035]

That team beat #13 Maryland by 20


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Maryland? At Home? That's a measure of success?


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Maryland? At Home? That's a measure of success?


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I think beating a top 15 team by 20 points is prettygood


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[HooHooHoo22 3,902]

No one should be worked up about losing this guy. We didn't know he was until like 2 months ago. This was a long shot for sure. I have faith everything will be okay next year. Have faith !!!!!


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[Brass Cannon 24,069]

1 minute ago, HooHooHoo22 said:

No one should be worked up about losing this guy. We didn't know he was until like 2 months ago. This was a long shot for sure. I have faith everything will be okay next year. Have faith !!!!!


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It's not just this one it's Scruggs, Wilkes, Waters, Preston and countless others just this year

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,035]

I'll see myself out. Beyond frustrated with our recruiting plan, efforts, and results.

Sorry guys.


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[HoosierAloha 29,959]

No one should be worked up about losing this guy. We didn't know he was until like 2 months ago. This was a long shot for sure. I have faith everything will be okay next year. Have faith !!!!!


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As Fleek mentioned above, it's not just this guy. It's not adding appropriate depth in the front court. I like how JMo has contributed this season. Davis, JMo, and Hartman/Smith (?) would be a good starting front court next season. However, what is there after that? McSwain is a raw player with great athleticism. Moore is long and should be a good player, later in his college career. Smith will make frosh mistakes and will be a solid contributor later on his college career. A lot of reliance on hoping players make leaps and are better than what they've been scouted to be.

[HoosierAloha 29,959]

I think beating a top 15 team by 20 points is prettygood


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Again, one or two games against top 15 teams at home is great and is "successful" in those games. That wasn't a successful season. The ceiling and floor should have raised on the program by now.

[AKHoosier 6,608]

Tom Crean has to be wondering what the hell he has to do for the top 20 guys to continually come to Indiana easier every year.

He develops talent, IU has resources just as good as anywhere else, newly-renovated Assembly Hall, great program prestige, recent NBA Draft success, basketball-crazy school.  Seriously, I wonder what is going on too.  Having to take a flier on unranked kids every year is concerning, because it should be easier than this to get top talent more regularly.

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Again, one or two games against top 15 teams at home is great and is "successful" in those games. That wasn't a successful season. The ceiling and floor should have raised on the program by now.

Agreed. My point was that Crean can figure something out for 10 minutes a game. If we were going to be counting on a small ball lineup the whole game, then that would be dofferent


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[WayneFleekHoosier 47,035]

Agreed. My point was that Crean can figure something out for 10 minutes a game. If we were going to be counting on a small ball lineup the whole game, then that would be dofferent


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Look at the blue bloods. Most have 3-5 guys 6'9" or bigger. UK. UNC, Kansas, Duke, Louisville.

These are the teams we need to be concerned with competing against.


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[ctown2grhoosier 380]

No worries. We go to FF this year and come up a little short. Everybody vows to comeback next year and win a championship. We get a bomb class in 18 and everything else is history! Settled!

[Uspshoosier 44,421]

Small battle losses add up to large battle losses at some point.

And what's the definition of fine? Unranked next preseason if JB, OG, TB leave. If those three leave plus our recruiting class, no way we are ranked next preseason.




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If st Mary's can be preseason #17 this year, I'm pretty confident an iu team with 6 players ranked in the 120 and 3 of them being upper class men can be ranked in the top 25.
I might be one of the few that follow recruiting closely that doesn't get too worked up over missing recruits. 13 players will say yes and want to wear the candy stripes. Instead of pointing out the negatives that has gone on in the 2017 class I will point out that Justin smith decided to wear the candy stripes instead of accepting a scholarship to play at the defending national champions Villanova. A kid had a choice to go to the team that is on top of the mountain right now but decided to come to Bloomington. Luckily even if this class doesn't turn out to be highly ranked they will still get to come to Bloomington and try to prove people wrong


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[HooHooHoo22 3,902]

It's not just this one it's Scruggs, Wilkes, Waters, Preston and countless others just this year

I understand that, that's why in my post I was strictly talking about Preston.


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[Brass Cannon 24,069]

15 minutes ago, HooHooHoo22 said:

I understand that, that's why in my post I was strictly talking about Preston.


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Oh I get that. I just don't get why you would say that. This reaction is just the culmination of such. 

Its like saying don't worry about the one straw. Even if that's the straw that breaks the camels back. 

[Uspshoosier 44,421]

Preston must of signed his loi before the deadline because self is talking about him
http://www.zagsblog.com/2016/11/18/billy-preston-kansas/


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[Hovadipo 53,155]

Small battle losses add up to large battle losses at some point.

And what's the definition of fine? Unranked next preseason if JB, OG, TB leave. If those three leave plus our recruiting class, no way we are ranked next preseason.




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Just take a breath man. There's no sense in getting worked up over the decisions of 17 year-olds. Who cares about preseason rankings.


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