mdn82 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Look at Romeo's prediction history and tell me all about how solid it is. It's a bunch of guys guessing based on the limited information that is already out in the public.Dude, it was a funny article with half truths. There were also some items in there that have made me feel it is IU for a while for different reasons. When Romeo makes his last visit it will be interesting to see what he does on it. Will it be like Cody going through KSB? I doubt too Romeo is just coming up to visit the coaches and say hey. There is a reason and purpose. As for the 247 guys, I can speak on some of them because we used to work with some of them. Some know absolutely very little. Some know the football recruiting side more than basketball. Some know basketball more. Either side can vote on either so you as a fan must be knowledgeable enough to know the voter. The ones that know more on the basketball side are in with AAU coaches and gather a lot of their info from that scene. There is information there that isn’t public. The problem also is if they are making money off of that model they are holding back and stretching info out over days. It’s been that way since you were in elementary. To completely disregard it is not accurate. Same as to completely fall into their trap of buying information.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave and theriverpilot 2 Quote
woodenshoemanHoosierfan Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Don't know why we're talking about University 6 right now. The real question is who do I root for tomorrow, Duke or Kansas? My heart says Kansas because....well...F Duke, but my brain says Duke because I don't want Kansas becoming any more attractive to Romeo. WHAT DO I DO GUYS???Can they both lose.Sent from my SM-G930V using Tapatalk theriverpilot, ALASKA HOOSIER, DLG3 and 1 other 4 Quote
Mike Schumann Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, mdn82 said: Dude, it was a funny article with half truths. There were also some items in there that have made me feel it is IU for a while for different reasons. When Romeo makes his last visit it will be interesting to see what he does on it. Will it be like Cody going through KSB? I doubt too Romeo is just coming up to visit the coaches and say hey. There is a reason and purpose. As for the 247 guys, I can speak on some of them because we used to work with some of them. Some know absolutely very little. Some know the football recruiting side more than basketball. Some know basketball more. Either side can vote on either so you as a fan must be knowledgeable enough to know the voter. The ones that know more on the basketball side are in with AAU coaches and gather a lot of their info from that scene. There is information there that isn’t public. The problem also is if they are making money off of that model they are holding back and stretching info out over days. It’s been that way since you were in elementary. To completely disregard it is not accurate. Same as to completely fall into their trap of buying information. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I don't completely disregard it. I said it was right up there with horoscopes. Ok, that was tongue in cheek, but my main issue is with the self proclaimed "expert" label. I'm sure there is some occasional inside information, but being an expert suggests that you have really deep insights that others don't have. A lot of recruiting predictions are fairly easy. When it comes to the hard cases like Romeo, it quickly becomes clear that we aren't dealing with experts here. ALASKA HOOSIER 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Look at Romeo's prediction history and tell me all about how solid it is. It's a bunch of guys guessing based on the limited information that is already out in the public.Romeo is one individual recruit... small sample size to make large generalizations about a population and entire platform. Good luck with your site! As you said about the recruiting experts, if you’re gonna put yourself out there, expect someone to question it!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app ALASKA HOOSIER, chicagoHOOSIER and Mike Schumann 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I don't completely disregard it. I said it was right up there with horoscopes. Ok, that was tongue in cheek, but my main issue is with the self proclaimed "expert" label. I'm sure there is some occasional inside information, but being an expert suggests that you have really deep insights that others don't have. A lot of recruiting predictions are fairly easy. When it comes to the hard cases like Romeo, it quickly becomes clear that we aren't dealing with experts here.An individual case does not discredit one from being an expert if that is the case you are trying to make. I think the expert label is a bit much. Informed is probably a better one. They have relationships with more people than the average person. Most of their insights are interpretations of the information they receive. That isn’t an expert, but informed. Being cynical of that is up to you, but completely disregarding that is misinformed and shows you haven’t followed it long at all.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app moyemayhem 1 Quote
Mike Schumann Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: Romeo is one individual recruit... small sample size to make large generalizations about a population and entire platform. Good luck with your site! As you said about the recruiting experts, if you’re gonna put yourself out there, expect someone to question it! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I was using Romeo as an example. One of many that shows when they choose to keep things close to the vest, the "experts" really don't know much. I don't mind being challenged at all. It helps me think more critically about things. Quote
Mike Schumann Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 25 minutes ago, mdn82 said: An individual case does not discredit one from being an expert if that is the case you are trying to make. I think the expert label is a bit much. Informed is probably a better one. They have relationships with more people than the average person. Most of their insights are interpretations of the information they receive. That isn’t an expert, but informed. Being cynical of that is up to you, but completely disregarding that is misinformed and shows you haven’t followed it long at all. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I think "Recruiting Analyst" would be a much more appropriate label IMO. I'm not disregarding them, I just expect much more from an expert. IUsafety, ALASKA HOOSIER and CSP 3 Quote
mdn82 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I think "Recruiting Analyst" would be a much more appropriate label IMO. I'm not disregarding them, I just expect much more from an expert.I don’t know who calls them an expert so fair enough. As it pertains to Romeo I think you have to view it from a lense of what is actually happening and not hearsay. As not much is being said. Imagine that will pick up here over the next week starting with the burger boy game.Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 I was using Romeo as an example. One of many that shows when they choose to keep things close to the vest, the "experts" really don't know much. I don't mind being challenged at all. It helps me think more critically about things.Id argue that there are far more examples where they are accurate and knowledgeable, but people like you and many on the board only look for their failures. I bet if you talk to any of the people at 247 they’ll all openly admit that they don’t know about Romeo and this is just their best guess. On your issue with expert - that’s just a marketing term. Want to call them analysts? What are they even analyzing it’s all just publicly knowledge, right? Point is, it’s just a label, and I’d take the consensus at 247 over almost anyone else’s single opinion any day. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 48 minutes ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: Id argue that there are far more examples where they are accurate and knowledgeable, but people like you and many on the board only look for their failures. I bet if you talk to any of the people at 247 they’ll all openly admit that they don’t know about Romeo and this is just their best guess. On your issue with expert - that’s just a marketing term. Want to call them analysts? What are they even analyzing it’s all just publicly knowledge, right? Point is, it’s just a label, and I’d take the consensus at 247 over almost anyone else’s single opinion any day. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Expert is definitely a misnomer. They aren't any better than "expert" bracket pickers. They have a hell of a lot more knowledge of the situation than most people, but they are damn little more accurate. CSP 1 Quote
Walking Boot of Doom Posted March 25, 2018 Posted March 25, 2018 Expert is definitely a misnomer. They aren't any better than "expert" bracket pickers. They have a hell of a lot more knowledge of the situation than most people, but they are damn little more accurate.I mean, once BTB Picker gets going, you can see how the mostly uninformed compare. Once again, I think anyone casting stones at the recruiting experts/analysts/forecasters/fortune tellers are doing an awful lot of talk without any evidence that the general population could compete with them. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app thebigweave 1 Quote
rebelhoosier848891 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Kansas to the Final Four gives them a shiny new object to try to lure Romeo with—here’s to hoping he wants to stay closer to home and lead IU back to greatness—and our own Final Four!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners ALASKA HOOSIER and IUBBFan1970 2 Quote
Bailey7878 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Kansas to the Final Four gives them a shiny new object to try to lure Romeo with—here’s to hoping he wants to stay closer to home and lead IU back to greatness—and our own Final Four!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersDuke should of won that game.Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Quote
CSP Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Bailey7878 said: Duke should of won that game. Sent from my SM-J700T using Tapatalk Why Quote
HoosierHoops1 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, Walking Boot of Doom said: I mean, once BTB Picker gets going, you can see how the mostly uninformed compare. Once again, I think anyone casting stones at the recruiting experts/analysts/forecasters/fortune tellers are doing an awful lot of talk without any evidence that the general population could compete with them. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app I imagine it'll look fairly mirrored. Quote
HinnyHoosier Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Kansas to the Final Four gives them a shiny new object to try to lure Romeo with—here’s to hoping he wants to stay closer to home and lead IU back to greatness—and our own Final Four!Sent from my iPhone using BtownBannersAnd hopefully he'll realize that Bill has no new angles to sell him, because I'm sure they've driven the deep tournament runs and championship aspirations into the ground from day one. Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners mobile app Iugradman and rebelhoosier848891 2 Quote
TheWatShot Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Kansas had one Final Four appearance in the last 9 years despite being a 1 seed five times and a 2 seed three times. I wonder what Self would tell him at this point..."Hey! Look at us! We finally took advantage of our seeding!" HinnyHoosier 1 Quote
ebridges24 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 1 hour ago, rebelhoosier848891 said: Kansas to the Final Four gives them a shiny new object to try to lure Romeo with—here’s to hoping he wants to stay closer to home and lead IU back to greatness—and our own Final Four! Sent from my iPhone using BtownBanners still better than Duke winning Skidmarks and ElectricBoogaloo 2 Quote
Bruce038 Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/18/2018 at 7:30 PM, Hovadipo said: It’s all about tone for me personally. He just has a very arrogant, all-knowing disposition about him. Comes out that way on his podcast too, which I’d also really like to enjoy, but can’t. I’m sure he’s a nice guy, I just wish he wasn’t....the way...he is.... He is arrogant and so politically correct it’s ridiculous. Any criticism of a players activity on the court must be taken as a personal insult! Pathetic ! And that is personal Quote
jake11forever Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 Bill Self is a great coach. I don't know why people on here bash him, Coack K, Calipari, you people just envy the success they have. If your successful you must be cheating. SmhSent from my VS988 using BtownBanners mobile app Quote
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