(2018) SG Romeo Langford - INDIANA HOOSIERS

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,291]

You worry way too much Wayne. If Archie knew Romeo and family were wanting to cash out, he’d have already stopped recruiting him. Nothing leads me to believe that Archie plays that game

I'm not worried at all. I don't care, if he picks KU or Vandy. Nothing we could do except play the game. Im just taking all the evidence that's out there to form an opinion.

I'm more frustrated in general that our ceiling gets held back because CBB is shady. And we are less shady.


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[goonaha 2,974]

I mean, I don’t feel this way. To each their own though. 

I'm sorry what exactly is the problem?


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[mdn82 26,344]

Yeah, that all started because he didn't get PT in Egypt over the other guards. It's not some Calipari vendetta by the Langfords. The Langfords didn't feel the love.

I'm not off the Romeo train. I'd Love to have him and he is a remarkable talent.

BUT for me, the fact that he was considered a UL guy (until they were busted) and now possibly a KU or Vandy guy gives me some pause. I can't think of 2 shadier programs than KU and and UL and now Vandy wants to roll in the dirt.

It worries me the Langfords want to cash in on his skill before the NBA.



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The thing is you say that he is “now possibly a KU or Vandy guy gives me some pause.” The Crystal Ball which I hate still gives a perception of where analysts stand. At this point Kansas is considered on the outside looking in. Vandy has trended due to who they got. Not firm intel it’s leaning that way. I think this is more open than most give it credit for.

I also don’t think it was a Calipari vendetta. The kid had a back injury and barely played. Something in the midst of that gave the Langford’s a bad taste in their mouth as most thought it was a three way race for him with Duke, UK, and UL with UL leading. Not sure it was lack of PT. It was fully known he had a back injury.


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[Hoosier Guy 8,333]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I'm not worried at all. I don't care, if he picks KU or Vandy. Nothing we could do except play the game. Im just taking all the evidence that's out there to form an opinion.

I'm more frustrated in general that our ceiling gets held back because CBB is shady. And we are less shady.


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You just literally said you’re worried that the Langford family is trying to cash out on his skill before the NBA. So yeah you’re worried a bit

[mdn82 26,344]

I don’t think Romeo is trying to cash in before college either. His family isn’t poor and he will be on campus one season. No reason to risk it imo.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,291]

I don’t think Romeo is trying to cash in before college either. His family isn’t poor and he will be on campus one season. No reason to risk it imo.


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But many/most do. It's common place amongst the top recruits. They feel, they deserve it, and they probably do tbh.


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[mdn82 26,344]

But many/most do. It's common place amongst the top recruits. They feel, they deserve it, and they probably do tbh.


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See here is where I differ. I don’t think College Basketball is as Blue Chips as you do. It’s there, but to what degree we will never know.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,291]

See here is where I differ. I don’t think College Basketball is as Blue Chips as you do. It’s there, but to what degree we will never know.


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I think it's more sophisticated than Blue Chips. More money, more agents, more shoe companies, more of everything.

Cars, giveaways, jewelry, Giftcards to local stores, etc. and then the big 6 figure payoffs for 5 stars.

If kids know about having 100k to 200k available to go to certain schools why would you not take that. Very, very few have been busted before this FBI probe. The risk is low.


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[mdn82 26,344]

I think it's more sophisticated than Blue Chips. More money, more agents, more shoe companies, more of everything.

Cars, giveaways, jewelry, Giftcards to local stores, etc. and then the big 6 figure payoffs for 5 stars.

If kids know about having 100k to 200k available to go to certain schools why would you not take that. Very, very few have been busted before this FBI probe. The risk is low.


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I apologize but I just don’t feel it is this widespread. We are talking maybe a handful or two of kids per year. Is that really killing IU’s chances? I agree those are the types of items passing hands for those kids. But I think we greatly vary on scope. Even if we were aloud to pay a kid legit $250k to come here you would always have a few coaches willing to pay $500k. Getting upset over that fact that there are those types out there doesn’t change anything. The bar will always be changing in regards to that subject. Bottom line is are you ok with being dirty. It really isn’t a convo of everyone is doing it. Even if we all could there would be someone out there raising the bar.


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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,291]

I apologize but I just don’t feel it is this widespread. We are talking maybe a handful or two of kids per year. Is that really killing IU’s chances? I agree those are the types of items passing hands for those kids. But I think we greatly vary on scope. Even if we were aloud to pay a kid legit $250k to come here you would always have a few coaches willing to pay $500k. Getting upset over that fact that there are those types out there doesn’t change anything. The bar will always be changing in regards to that subject. Bottom line is are you ok with being dirty. It really isn’t a convo of everyone is doing it. Even if we all could there would be someone out there raising the bar.

 

 

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Mixed feelings. I want an even playing field. I genuinely think Duke, Arizona, Syracuse, KU, UK, UL, UCLA, Oregon and lots of wannabes are cheating. Or whatever you want to call it. I think it's widespread enough that most insiders don't even feel like they are cheating. Maybe we offer the same things, idk, but those that follow recruiting know we get beat out "buy" higher bidders often. The list of shady guys we recruited that went to shady schools is very long. I'd love to know what Splading got. What Goodluck got. What Lyles got. What Lyle got. What Wilkes got. What Zimmerman got. What Maker was going to get. What Preston got. What Bruce Brown got. Etc, etc, etc.

 

I just want an even playing field is all. We are not good at basketball at Indiana under the current recruiting climate no matter who coaches us. The most sure way to get there is talent. I don't want thugs, or bad guys. But not all guys accepting money are bad guys. They feel they deserve it. I think the rankings make up a market value type system.

 

Just thinking out loud. Indiana has a Million dollar a year recruiting budget. If our average class is 3 or 4, a payout of 100-200k per player would save us money. LOL. I'm kidding here but my point is, big money is changing hands and coaches and kids are getting a piece of it.

 

 

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[mdn82 26,344]

I get that, but no matter what system is in place people will go above it to attempt to get an advantage. I don’t think it’s a system problem as much as a bad Apple plus stress type of thing. High stress employment will cause people to work in areas they normally wouldn’t. I don’t think it’s just coaches that set up this landscape it’s boosters too. It’s shoe companies that boosters reach out to. There are many things. The problem is there needs to be a person in charge with authority that can punish much like the NFL and MLB is set up. That would change a lot.


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[Bailey7878 2,506]

Mixed feelings. I want an even playing field. I genuinely think Duke, Arizona, Syracuse, KU, UK, UL, UCLA, Oregon and lots of wannabes are cheating. Or whatever you want to call it. I think it's widespread enough that most insiders don't even feel like they are cheating. Maybe we offer the same things, idk, but those that follow recruiting know we get beat out "buy" higher bidders often. The list of shady guys we recruited that went to shady schools is very long. I'd love to know what Splading got. What Goodluck got. What Lyles got. What Lyle got. What Wilkes got. What Zimmerman got. What Maker was going to get. What Preston got. What Bruce Brown got. Etc, etc, etc.
 
I just want an even playing field is all. We are not good at basketball at Indiana under the current recruiting climate no matter who coaches us. The most sure way to get there is talent. I don't want thugs, or bad guys. But not all guys accepting money are bad guys. They feel they deserve it. I think the rankings make up a market value type system.
 
Just thinking out loud. Indiana has a Million dollar a year recruiting budget. If our average class is 3 or 4, a payout of 100-200k per player would save us money. LOL. I'm kidding here but my point is, big money is changing hands and coaches and kids are getting a piece of it.
 
 
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We havent been good in 25 years. Im almost used to losing at this point it doesn't even really faze me sadly. Like today I never expected we would win or next a Saturday either. Reality is we have a three year rebuild on our hands


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[Ajwhitis 705]

This recruitment is like the coaching search, it was fun till people got our hopes up just to find out what they were preaching wasn't true. I'm just ready for it to be over, whether I like the result or not.

[AKHoosier 7,699]

6 hours ago, mdn82 said:

See here is where I differ. I don’t think College Basketball is as Blue Chips as you do. It’s there, but to what degree we will never know.


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I think it's Blue Chips x10.

The smaller programs aren't the only ones who "need" to cheat.  Programs cheat because they don't want to be left behind.  They don't want to be the only school who isn't trying to get ahead.  JMO

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

I think very few 5* recruits are completely clean. How dirty it gets depends on the recruit and his people.

Romeo is good at basketball and that hasn't changed. He won't be the savior but could go a long way in having a solid tourney team next season.


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[MoyeNeeded 3,075]

He isn't that great. He looks good when he plays against teams with 5"10 guards. Damezi is just as good IMO.

So is Keion Brooks over rated too seeing how Romeo is schooling him both offensively and defensively tonight?

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[Bailey7878 2,506]

So is Keion Brooks over rated too seeing how Romeo is schooling him both offensively and defensively tonight?

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I would assume he says yes since he thinks Anderson is better than romeo.

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[MoyeNeeded 3,075]

Romeo with 42pts. Defensively held Brooks (3inches taller) to 18pts.

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[WayneFleekHoosier 51,291]

So is Keion Brooks over rated too seeing how Romeo is schooling him both offensively and defensively tonight?

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So you're saying he's worth that KU/Vandy money?

Romeo stock back up tonight. 🤣


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[Hoosierfan2017 24,813]

Scoring 42 points against Austin Boucher's team is hall of fame worthy.