Quality Young Coaches vs Tom Crean.

[biteoftheapple]

As for Huggy, his health is a major concern. Not to mention his personal problems he has had. I have heard it stated he is year to year for his health conditions at this point.

[Uwe Robb]

As for Huggy, his health is a major concern. Not to mention his personal problems he has had. I have heard it stated he is year to year for his health conditions at this point.

I think I remember hearing that during a game earlier in the year. Also looking at his bio didn't realize he coached that long @ Cincy. 1989-2005. I remember the Melvin Levitt and Kenyon Martin teams they were crazy good, but they shot a lot of 3's so they would go cold and be an early exit in tourney every year. Killed my brackets when I was younger.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Sorry I keep bombarding the boards with KenPom stats, but here are some more. The following list of coaches and the amount of season they have had their teams in the top 50 Adjusted Offense and the top 50 Adjusted Defense. The list is from 2002 - 2015
 
Not a lot of young talent on the list but enjoy!!
 
Bill Self - 14 (13 Kansas, 1 Illinois)
Cal - 12 (5 UK, 7 Memphis)
Coach K - 11
Izzo - 10
J Dixon - 9
Boeheim - 9
Bo Ryan - 9
Roy Williams - 9
Billy D - 8
Pitino - 8
Huggins - 8 (5 WVa, 3 Cincy)
Matta - 7
Barnes - 6
J Wright - 6
S Miller - 5 (3 AZ, 2 Xavier)
J Thompson III - 5
M Few - 5
G Marshall - 5

Not a lot of young talent and several carrying way too much baggage, I.e., Calipari, Pitino, Boeheim, Williams, Huggins.

[JSHoosier]

I think Marshall is a better in game coach than Crean. I have my doubts he can recruit here or fulfill other areas required to be coach at IU.

Those concerns would follow pretty well any coach that isn't Stevens or coming from a major program (ala Donovan before he left Florida).  We didn't know if Crean could recruit at this level either.  Marshall would undoubtedly have more resources here than he has at Wichita State though.  Has he had problems with off court issues?  Does he graduate players?  I genuinely don't know because I don't follow WSU.

 

Marshall isn't a homerun hire certainly wouldn't be my first choice, but I do think he'd be an upgrade.

[8bucks]

Sorry I keep bombarding the boards with KenPom stats, but here are some more. The following list of coaches and the amount of season they have had their teams in the top 50 Adjusted Offense and the top 50 Adjusted Defense. The list is from 2002 - 2015

Not a lot of young talent on the list but enjoy!!

Bill Self - 14 (13 Kansas, 1 Illinois)
Cal - 12 (5 UK, 7 Memphis)
Coach K - 11
Izzo - 10
J Dixon - 9
Boeheim - 9
Bo Ryan - 9
Roy Williams - 9
Billy D - 8
Pitino - 8
Huggins - 8 (5 WVa, 3 Cincy)
Matta - 7
Barnes - 6
J Wright - 6
S Miller - 5 (3 AZ, 2 Xavier)
J Thompson III - 5
M Few - 5
G Marshall - 5

Good list. Probably hard for a young coach to be on this list since the minimum number of years (5) exceeds most of the young guys tenure. Get much past 5 years and your not too young anymore.

Good list though

[mdn82]

How this continues to happen is beyond me?

Me too

[biteoftheapple]

Robb, another thing about Enfield is the kids love the guy! He's a fun coach and his wife is HOT!!! lol USC's gotta be loving life now with him.

I do not know much about Enfelds resume, but his feud with Alford, him being considered here would madden Steve.

[HoosierAloha]

Robb, another thing about Enfield is the kids love the guy!  He's a fun coach and his wife is HOT!!!  lol  USC's gotta be loving life now with him.

 

Having a hot wife should definitely be in the criteria for hiring a coach! :thankyou:

[mdn82]

Those concerns would follow pretty well any coach that isn't Stevens or coming from a major program (ala Donovan before he left Florida). We didn't know if Crean could recruit at this level either. Marshall would undoubtedly have more resources here than he has at Wichita State though. Has he had problems with off court issues? Does he graduate players? I genuinely don't know because I don't follow WSU.

Marshall isn't a homerun hire certainly wouldn't be my first choice, but I do think he'd be an upgrade.

Honestly in game I do think he would. Just not sold that he would recruit or develop better. In game I would be surprised to hear complaints. I think a few years ago his name was hotter and it would have been easier.

[johnsoniu]

I do not know much about Enfelds resume, but his feud with Alford, him being considered here would madden Steve.

Good.

[hoosierpap]

he is still holding a grudge a decade later? Seems pretty petty if he is

Ironic coming from someone in this fanbase lol...no clue how you feel about that so not aimed at you just saying.

[mdn82]

Ironic coming from someone in this fanbase lol...no clue how you feel about that so not aimed at you just saying.

Lmao take cover!!!!!

[MartintheMopMan]

Sorry I keep bombarding the boards with KenPom stats, but here are some more. The following list of coaches and the amount of season they have had their teams in the top 50 Adjusted Offense and the top 50 Adjusted Defense. The list is from 2002 - 2015

 

Not a lot of young talent on the list but enjoy!!

 

Bill Self - 14 (13 Kansas, 1 Illinois)

Cal - 12 (5 UK, 7 Memphis)

Coach K - 11

Izzo - 10

J Dixon - 9

Boeheim - 9

Bo Ryan - 9

Roy Williams - 9

Billy D - 8

Pitino - 8

Huggins - 8 (5 WVa, 3 Cincy)

Matta - 7

Barnes - 6

J Wright - 6

S Miller - 5 (3 AZ, 2 Xavier)

J Thompson III - 5

M Few - 5

G Marshall - 5

For the sake of comparison:

 

Tom Crean has 3, with 1 more almost there (53/36). Just over 20% of the tracked seasons.

[MartintheMopMan]

Ironic coming from someone in this fanbase lol...no clue how you feel about that so not aimed at you just saying.

Well, we have standards. I don't want a coach who can't hold grudges for at least 4 Presidential terms.

[hoosierpap]

Well, we have standards. I don't want a coach who can't hold grudges for at least 4 Presidential terms.

bahahaa

[hoosierpap]

Lmao take cover!!!!!

Ha. Never been less scared in my life.

[MikeRoberts]

Ironic coming from someone in this fanbase lol...no clue how you feel about that so not aimed at you just saying.

i feel a bit dense for not following the sarcasm or irony. What grudge do IU fans hold? Are you referring to Bob knights grudge against IU? Obviously missing something in regards to this fanbase and grudges. Not being a smartass, just don't get it

[OliviaPope40]

Think if BS had never left Butler we would never hear the end of it.

[hoosierpap]

i feel a bit dense for not following the sarcasm or irony. What grudge do IU fans hold? Are you referring to Bob knights grudge against IU? Obviously missing something in regards to this fanbase and grudges. Not being a smartass, just don't get it

Yeah, I was talking about people still being loyal to Bob Knight, who is holding quite a grudge. I was only joking. PM me if need be, it wasn't directed at you and didn't mean to offend.

[8bucks]

My plane got delayed so I googled some articles related to our search when we hired Crean.

Related to young coaches, those many of us think do not have enough experience, I was surprised to find that Bennett only had two years experience at Washington we we talked to him last time.

"Pros: After his father Purdue Person retired two seasons ago, the younger Bennett took over and in his first season led Washington State to its most wins in school history (tied it at 26), won AP Coach of the Year and Naismith College Coach of the Year. This all after WSU finished dead last in the Pac-10 a year before. This year, his team has the second-highest rated defense in the country at 56.1 points allowed per game and have advanced (so far) to the Sweet Sixteen — beating Winthrop and Notre Dame by a combined margin of 49 points. He’s young (38), he’s up and coming, he’s what IU could really use to jump start the program. He’s helped recruit the likes Devin Harris, Kirk Penney, Alando Tucker and Brian Butch while at Wisconsin. His father’s ties to Bob Knight might help reconnect a certain segment of the Indiana family too."

"Cons: Too inexperienced? This is only Bennett’s second year at the helm of Washington State. Sure, he’s done a stellar job in his first two seasons, but do we need a larger sample size before we know he’s the real deal? Would it be a mistake to pull a trigger on a guy who’s still largely untested?"

http://www.insidethehall.com/tag/tony-bennett/

He had two good years at Washington finishing 2 and 3rd in the PAC 10.

Many on here think BS is the only guy. I think he is the best guy but some of the guys on this list could turn out to be like Bennett. Many will not.

I can't wait to see what Fife does but that does not mean I would call him for the IU job.