New Coach Salary And Criteria...$5 million?

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,688]

Mod is angry. Has been angry. Why so personal?

[HoosierTrav 7,900]

I have supported Crean huh? Just because I don't ***** and moan like some of you constantly about the same things doesn't mean I support him. You might want to your facts straight before you come at me with that weak ****.

When the numerous run ins with the law occurred you were absolutely one of the ones on here defending Crean. I'm not arguing with that defense, after all, Crean cant babysit everyone. My beef is that you are hypocritical in acting as though we are above hiring Bill Self, due to academic violations that his schools football team committed. The only issue his basketball program had was that a booster had given 2 players a total of $5000 in impermissible benefits. If you create a line in the sand that on one side says Bill Self should have to babysit boosters and the actions of his schools football coach, while at the same time having made arguments in the past that Crean shouldn't have to babysit his players, then you are being really hypocritical. And you got the response outta me bc of your weak ass passive aggressive statement. "Well I guess I can take a hike." I agreed with you and Hova's position that you cant have coaches with academic fraud on their resume. Its just bs that you'd even think to hold Self accountable for those allegations.

 

The only weak shit I see on here is you coming into threads created for pissing and moaning about the coach, and crying foul to the people doing so. 

[mdn82 25,546]

Mod is angry. Has been angry. Why so personal?

I am tired of the mob mentality towards posters from those who feel the posters don't agree with them. I have said my peace with that dude multiple times. He can't accept that shockingly someone doesn't agree with him on a message board. Then he tries portraying me as something he doesn't have a clue on because I don't ***** constantly. I am not part of the mob. I wanted him gone after the Devin Davis situation but I don't need to rehash that every day to feel better about myself.

[mdn82 25,546]

When the numerous run ins with the law occurred you were absolutely one of the ones on here defending Crean. I'm not arguing with that defense, after all, Crean cant babysit everyone. My beef is that you are hypocritical in acting as though we are above hiring Bill Self, due to academic violations that his schools football team committed. The only issue his basketball program had was that a booster had given 2 players a total of $5000 in impermissible benefits. If you create a line in the sand that on one side says Bill Self should have to babysit boosters and the actions of his schools football coach, while at the same time having made arguments in the past that Crean shouldn't have to babysit his players, then you are being really hypocritical. And you got the response outta me bc of your weak ass passive aggressive statement. "Well I guess I can take a hike." I agreed with you and Hova's position that you cant have coaches with academic fraud on their resume. Its just bs that you'd even think to hold Self accountable for those allegations.

The only weak **** I see on here is you coming into threads created for pissing and moaning about the coach, and crying foul to the people doing so.

Crying foul? I am a mod. It is my job to tell you to quit being a dipshit. You might want to back up off of me on things you have no clue about son.

[mdn82 25,546]

All over Bill fucking Self. This dude has no idea what we as mods are tired of. What we think. Or the fact that we have a mod board where we go to vent. Or maybe he doesn't realize this board he comes to bitch daily is scaring people away because of the negativity. Hey guess what Trav? This board is on the Internet due to more and more fans coming on. When you continually bitch and they don't show up because they are tired of the bitching there is no more board. You wouldn't understand why us mods try to keep an even keeled atmosphere, but keep bitching and running your mouth about things you have 0 clue on.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,688]

Hmmmmm.

[mdn82 25,546]

Hmmmmm.

Anything you wanting to add Wayne or were you just sighing?

[mdn82 25,546]

I am not going ban anyone or anything, but if this is a bitching thread you guys will get my wrath on some things we are done with.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,688]

The reality is the program is in a negative place right now. I don't understand why people can't speak their minds if respectful of others. This board is a true representation of the fanbase and probably more pro Crean than any other source. It shouldn't be pro Crean or anti Crean anyway. It should be each issue for itself which is how I treat it. Unfortunately, it's been 2.25 years of negative trends and momentum. People will not stop coming here because IT IS EVERWHERE. BUT, the personal attacks will drive people away. Guaranteed.

[mdn82 25,546]

The reality is the program is in a negative place right now. I don't understand why people can't speak their minds if respectful of others. This board is a true representation of the fanbase and probably more pro Crean than any other source. It shouldn't be pro Crean or anti Crean anyway. It should be each issue for itself which is how I treat it. Unfortunately, it's been 2.25 years of negative trends and momentum. People will not stop coming here because IT IS EVERWHERE. BUT, the personal attacks will drive people away. Guaranteed.

Agreed. That is why we are done with the mob. When people want to be positive we are not going to allow people to jump on them. We also will not allow trolling. A lot of what goes on here people need to move on with. Or they will be gone.

[WayneFleekHoosier 48,688]

One final thought. I think your reaction towards him was harsh, aggressive, and way overkill. IMO, doesn't reflect well. I am not taking sides, just a bad look.

[HoosierTrav 7,900]

All over Bill ******* Self. This dude has no idea what we as mods are tired of. What we think. Or the fact that we have a mod board where we go to vent. Or maybe he doesn't realize this board he comes to ***** daily is scaring people away because of the negativity. Hey guess what Trav? This board is on the Internet due to more and more fans coming on. When you continually ***** and they don't show up because they are tired of the bitching there is no more board. You wouldn't understand why us mods try to keep an even keeled atmosphere, but keep bitching and running your mouth about things you have 0 clue on.

 

All over Bill ******* Self. This dude has no idea what we as mods are tired of. What we think. Or the fact that we have a mod board where we go to vent. Or maybe he doesn't realize this board he comes to ***** daily is scaring people away because of the negativity. Hey guess what Trav? This board is on the Internet due to more and more fans coming on. When you continually ***** and they don't show up because they are tired of the bitching there is no more board. You wouldn't understand why us mods try to keep an even keeled atmosphere, but keep bitching and running your mouth about things you have 0 clue on.

Look man. For you to be able to incite someone into an argument with passive aggressive shots, when I said nothing over the line towards you or anyone else, then come up with this broad generalization of me (thats WAYYYY off base) then I think I'll find another place to go. If the mods cant be moderated themselves then this may not be the place for me. You say you've made your peace with me several times but for the life of me I cannot rememebr on instant, outside of this one, where you and I have had uncivilized debates. For you to also lump me in with the group of folks who are turning people away from this site due to negativity is unfair. I do my best to keep my pessimism within reason and I definitely try to not take shots at people, especially if they havent fired first. The biggest reason Indiana basketball forums, like Inside the hall, lose members isn't bc of the negativity of the posters (Sure there are some that cite these reasons) the MAIN reason they've lost members is due to the people running the site being held to a different set of standards and forcing their weight around. I bet you'd find a few people on BTB that are here due to  that sole reason. I apologize for firing back at you after I felt you passive aggressively took a shot at me. It just pissed me off even more bc I realized you were a Mod. 

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

Look at what this is season is doing to us!!!! Why can't we all just get along?????!!!! Come save us Brad!!! lol

[Feathery 4,005]

The biggest reason I left 24/7 was I had a run in with a mod who is a sunshine pumper and Didnt like my fact based assault on the lack of coaching by Tom Crean, in a thread about defense last spring. Oh the irony.

The only MOB mentality I see on all the boards is the desire for change. The mob wants Crean out.

[mdn82 25,546]

The biggest reason I left 24/7 was I had a run in with a mod who is a sunshine pumper and Didnt like my fact based assault on the lack of coaching by Tom Crean, in a thread about defense last spring. Oh the irony.

The only MOB mentality I see on all the boards is the desire for change. The mob wants Crean out.

That is fine. But the mob will allow the other side to have an opinion.

[SteelerHoosier 2,586]

Everyone just drop it. Sheesh 

[swatford 1,235]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DmYLrxR0Y8

[mdn82 25,546]

One final thought. I think your reaction towards him was harsh, aggressive, and way overkill. IMO, doesn't reflect well. I am not taking sides, just a bad look.

I understand that. But this is something we have discussed behind the scenes and being nice wasn't getting through. Not necessarily just with Trav but with others as well. Trav has had other mods have issues with him. This isn't a singular type of thing. Would we be best banning people? We don't want to but open discussion has gotten us as mods nowhere. There isn't one single mod who wants Crean here. But when we came to this site it was so both sides could have a voice. I have been as hard on GoColts over the years as a mod but that dude came here and adapted his style to what we have asked. That is all we ask. If my style here is too harsh it sucks but like Crean communicating with the team being nice hasn't got through.

[BtownBanner6 1,298]

I don't know? Apparently you do. So tell me who your sources are? Are you a close personal friend of Brad? I would say he is as good an option as anyone. Maybe I am very naive.

Yes I have to have sources to have a firm opinion on something, Outside of the one thing every fan holds their hat on(it's his dream job) why would he leave what he has going on at Boston?

[mdn82 25,546]

The biggest reason I left 24/7 was I had a run in with a mod who is a sunshine pumper and Didnt like my fact based assault on the lack of coaching by Tom Crean, in a thread about defense last spring. Oh the irony.

The only MOB mentality I see on all the boards is the desire for change. The mob wants Crean out.

Ok Feathery here is the problem as the mods will see with your post. "Sunshine pumpers" will be a ban. "Assault on the lack of coaching" will be a ban. You can have a discussion without those two things. If you can't you will probably get banned here as well. Even if it's factual and we agree with you we will ban you. You don't know how many people we actually agree with we have to ban because they can't play nice. Don't become one of those people. Please