Brass Cannon Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Hutch you saying it sends a bad message to take a knee and try to let our special teams win it. But not giving them the same chance also sends a bad message. A team has to go with what gives them the best chance to win. And the best chance would have been running the clock down and kicking a FG. Maybe he misses and we go to OT but most likely he makes it and we win. IU Hoosier41 1 Quote
Hovadipo Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 So much can go wrong when you give the other team 50 seconds against our defense. As evidenced by the 80 yard touchdown drive they executed to perfection. Worst case in my scenario is overtime. Worst case in score first is they win by going for 2. Which we ALL knew they would. Our defense is bad, I know. I still think we picked the better of the two bad options. In my football experience, you take the points when you can get them. Michigan had a 37 yard chip shot to beat Appalchian State and look at what happened. Just proves that anything can go wrong at any time. If we would've let the clock run down and then either banged the kick off the post, fumbled the snap, or gotten blocked, it would've gotten the same reaction as us getting the points and then giving up the TD and ensuing 2 pt. conversion. I'm just glad we lucked out, which we can all agree that we did. Class of '66 Old Fart 1 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 I love this topic and still think it was done correctly. But let's talk about it some more after I make it my Sunday Morning Quarterback analysis topic. It should be up in 30 minutes or so. You can disagree with me there too I most definitely will disagree with you over there as well. I'll start typing my rebuttal now. I'm going to start with... "Who the hell thought it would be a good idea to bring you over to BtownBanners? This kind of hack logic doesn't belong over here. You have to be trolling us here Hutch, we run the clock down and..." Good start huh? [emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91][emoji91] Alford Bailey, WayneFleekHoosier, Napleshoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Our defense is bad, I know. I still think we picked the better of the two bad options. In my football experience, you take the points when you can get them. Michigan had a 37 yard chip shot to beat Appalchian State and look at what happened. Just proves that anything can go wrong at any time. If we would've let the clock run down and then either banged the kick off the post, fumbled the snap, or gotten blocked, it would've gotten the same reaction as us getting the points and then giving up the TD and ensuing 2 pt. conversion. I'm just glad we lucked out, which we can all agree that we did. I know what you are getting at here, but a 37 yard chip **** is MUCH different than an extra point. Extra points are the most successful play in all of football. I realize their kicker missed one after it was moved back, but it's still the most successfully executed play in the game today. Quote
IndyHutch Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Hutch you saying it sends a bad message to take a knee and try to let our special teams win it. But not giving them the same chance also sends a bad message. A team has to go with what gives them the best chance to win. And the best chance would have been running the clock down and kicking a FG. Maybe he misses and we go to OT but most likely he makes it and we win. or maybe they block it and run it back for a touchdown Quote
IndyHutch Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 The first Sunday Morning Quarterback analysis has been posted. Have had it 41 ... make yourself look bad. It's all good. :yes: HoosierReb01, IU Hoosier41, Napleshoosier and 1 other 4 Quote
KingPG21 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 I know what you are getting at here, but a 37 yard chip **** is MUCH different than an extra point. Extra points are the most successful play in all of football. I realize their kicker missed one after it was moved back, but it's still the most successfully executed play in the game today. So hypothetical. If their kicker hadn't had missed the extra point after it was moved back, do people think we would have played this scenario out differently? Cause if he hadn't had missed they would have just needed a touchdown and extra point to win, unless we went for 2 and converted. I'm already on the kneel down and center the ball for the easiest possible kick side of the argument. But I guess it would be interesting to see how the scenario would have played out had he not missed their last PAT Quote
JSHoosier Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 or maybe they block it and run it back for a touchdown Run out the clock to take it out of our defenses hands and go for a FG to beat an FCS opponent, which gets blocked and returned for a TD. It wouldn't get much more IUFB than that, except for the first punt of the season getting blocked and recovered for a TD. Alford Bailey and IndyHutch 2 Quote
IndyHutch Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Run out the clock to take it out of our defenses hands and go for a FG to beat an FCS opponent, which gets blocked and returned for a TD. It wouldn't get much more IUFB than that, except for the first punt of the season getting blocked and recovered for a TD. Or IU getting a delay of game penalty on the opening kickoff of the season opener. Alford Bailey, Class of '66 Old Fart and IU Hoosier41 3 Quote
JSHoosier Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Or IU getting a delay of game penalty on the opening kickoff of the season opener. If Charlie Sheen was an IUFB fan it would go a long ways to explaining his issues with alcohol and drugs. Hey, at least our first offensive play was a pick 6. Quote
IndyHutch Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 You had me until then. Did you mean "wasn't a pick 6"? Quote
MartintheMopMan Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Third what message are you sending to your team if you do all that? The message is at worst, the same message I hope they're going to have screamed at them this entire week every single moment of practice. The defense in that game was embarrassing and if they ever play like that again they don't deserve their spot on the team. Maybe showing them we can't even trust them to prevent a 0:58 touchdown drive (justifiably) will help that message sink in. Though, something tells me their failure in the last minute of the game stung worse. Class of '66 Old Fart and IndyHutch 2 Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Griffin Oakes is 29/29 on PATs in his career. 100% success rate. Our defense made stops on 5 of 13 drives.... That's a 38% success rate.... The correct play shouldn't be so difficult for you all to see!!!! Alford Bailey and Dalton26 2 Quote
JSHoosier Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 You had me until then. Did you mean "wasn't a pick 6"? Yeah, that's what I meant. Quote
Class of '66 Old Fart Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 The really sad fact is that we even have this thread. I don't think very many of us expected the game to play out the way it did and to be biting our nails to the knuckles in the final seconds. As ugly as it was, it was a W. Quote
FKfootball Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 Who cares???? We won the game! FIU is up next! Quote
IU Hoosier41 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Posted September 6, 2015 Who cares???? We won the game! FIU is up next! A wise man once said... "You don't accept in victory what you would not accept in defeat"- Tom Crean ... Alford Bailey 1 Quote
JSHoosier Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 A wise man once said... "You don't accept in victory what you would not accept in defeat"- Tom Crean ... Well, a man said it at least. IU Hoosier41, LIHoosier, Dalton26 and 2 others 5 Quote
Brass Cannon Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 or maybe they block it and run it back for a touchdown Statistically less likely than us giving up a td and 2 pt conversion. Quote
HoosierReb01 Posted September 6, 2015 Posted September 6, 2015 A wise man once said... "You don't accept in victory what you would not accept in defeat"- Tom Crean ... All right, you are going to have to tell us who the wise man was that CTC stole that quote from. IU Hoosier41 1 Quote
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