(2016) C Joey Brunk to Butler

[mjtavier 169]

Butler will never be talked about to compete for a national championship. Indiana will be and has been. End of story. Butler is a good program but will never be what indiana is. Programs are built on banners and last time I checked they don't give banners for losing national championship games.

[OliviaPope40 6,517]

Since when did this thread become about who is better in terms of teams?

[Jketch 385]

I'm surprised everyone is so worked up over this. Brunk never seemed to be big on IU.

[FindEndNow 198]

Butler will never be talked about to compete for a national championship. Indiana will be and has been. End of story. Butler is a good program but will never be what indiana is. Programs are built on banners and last time I checked they don't give banners for losing national championship games.

Well that's cool. Except Butler has done it twice recently.

[Banksyrules 4,793]

I would say Butler has been better the past ten years. Say what u will they are fundamentally sound and that translates anywhere you go. Plus the tournament success speaks for itself. Just because we are in big ten doesn't give us the excuse to say we're better.
However , we do have the program to quickly turn things around rather quickly. I even think if Coach Crean can teach these kids some defense things can turn around quickly.

[mjtavier 169]

Well that's cool. Except Butler has done it twice recently.

Exactly and nobody cares because they didn't win. They have zero national championships. They are a good program that will never be a contender in the eyes of college basketball fans.

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

If you only care about the very recent history, sure Butler is the better program. If you are older than 10 years old and can see beyond the very recent history, Indiana is very clearly the superior program. It takes more than a couple good runs to change that. If Butler was the better program, they would be the ones pulling in McD-AA's which they aren't, and we have and still do. 

[FindEndNow 198]

If you only care about the very recent history, sure Butler is the better program. If you are older than 10 years old and can see beyond the very recent history, Indiana is very clearly the superior program. It takes more than a couple good runs to change that.

I'm 21. Indiana has been well... pretty much mediocre with 1 trip to the Final Four. In that same time.. you could say Butler has been pretty much mediocre.. but with 2 Final Fours.

[Miller'sTheMan 1,652]

I'm 21. Indiana has been well... pretty much mediocre with 1 trip to the Final Four. In that same time.. you could say Butler has been pretty much mediocre.. but with 2 Final Fours.

Your proving my point... That doesn't make Butler the better program. 

[FindEndNow 198]

Your proving my point... That doesn't make Butler the better program.

They're a FF better.

[KelleyHoosh 2,263]

I think this one is about done fellas. Make a new thread if you wanna debate this, but time to stop with this discussion in the Brunk thread

[Feathery 4,005]

Purdue has been better than we have the last 10 years. Barely but they have. How can we possibly be a Top 5-6 program right now? You have Kentucky is better. Kansas is better. Duke is better. UCLA is better. North Carolina is better. Syracuse is better. Louisville is better. Arizona is better. Florida is better. Michigan State is better. Ohio State is better. That's 11 schools off the top of my head. They all play in big time conferences, get big time talent and have Final Four appearances in the last decade.
Edit: I think only Arizona hadn't made a FF in the last decade.

Lol. I smell a troll.

[FindEndNow 198]

Lol. I smell a troll.

No. I love IU. But I can also stop and realize where we're at as a program and team.

[Dalton26 16,892]

Lol. I smell a troll.

No. I love IU. But I can also stop and realize where we're at as a program and team.

Cut it out. A mod just said to knock it off so that doesn't mean just keep going. If you want to continue to argue make a new thread but keet it out of the recruiting threads.

[Alford Bailey 12,384]

Purdue has been better than we have the last 10 years. Barely but they have. How can we possibly be a Top 5-6 program right now? You have Kentucky is better. Kansas is better. Duke is better. UCLA is better. North Carolina is better. Syracuse is better. Louisville is better. Arizona is better. Florida is better. Michigan State is better. Ohio State is better. That's 11 schools off the top of my head. They all play in big time conferences, get big time talent and have Final Four appearances in the last decade.
Edit: I think only Arizona hadn't made a FF in the last decade.

Yea, I dont know how anyone could argue we are a top five program nationally when are barely top five in our conference with UW, MSU, OSU, UM  all more successful than us right now.

[Old Friend 8,389]

This kid is the tallest on the court by far & he doesn't jump for ball at tip off. He gets nowhere close to the rim. Believe me, he plays in my back yard. I have seen him play in person this month. He needs to put work in, in my opinion. Then again I am not a scout or D1 coach. Sent from my Venue 8 3830 using BtownBanners mobile app

Agree.  He's a big body and he has some skills, but he's not the most athletic kid in the world.  This is a nice get for Butler from the standpoint that he's a good local player.  Indiana didn't lose a lot by not getting this kid; but I'm glad Butler got him.  He's a face up shooter more than a run the floor guy.