Potential fallout from coaching change

[eljefe6 361]

There has never been a real source about anything, whatsoever, confirming Crean being fired or even actually in jeopardy of it.
People Freaked out that Bryant and the Makers came to the MSU game, because somewhere a fallacy had been created about Crean on the way out and the created some "mixed signals" logic. They came because he's trying to improve the 2015-16 Indiana team that he's intending to coach and nothing had/has changed on that front.

People come on here and talk about it every day and it grows. The only truth about it, appears to be, that people, uninvolved, are talking about it.

Really? So there have been opinions based on nothing at all?

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,551]

There has never been a real source about anything, whatsoever, confirming Crean being fired or even actually in jeopardy of it.
People Freaked out that Bryant and the Makers came to the MSU game, because somewhere a fallacy had been created about Crean on the way out and the created some "mixed signals" logic. They came because he's trying to improve the 2015-16 Indiana team that he's intending to coach and nothing had/has changed on that front.

People come on here and talk about it every day and it grows. The only truth about it, appears to be, that people, uninvolved, are talking about it.

completely untrue. The higher ups know what's going on but discussions have been had. Either way, the fact the 85% of the fanbase wants him replaced and 100% of rival fanbases don't speaks volumes.

For you to say no real source has said Creans job is in jeopardy is 100% wrong. Even if you are Tom Crean, you are wrong.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

Who has?

 

What real source has confirmed he was in Jeopardy of being fired prior to 6 days ago? (day before the visits)

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

It speaks volumes about people wanting him replaced, says little about him being replaced.

 

 

Rival fan base part means nothing. People mouth off. People here used to say that about Bruce Weber. Have you ever been threatened by who Illinois might have as coach? I havn't been? No Indiana fan should be.

 

Earlier today someone said "Kentucky wants us to keep Crean for a long time" Why do they care? Their coach is afraid to play us (I'm not here to argue that opinion, but he show'd me he is) and we competed against UK as well with Crean as we have with any Coach since 1984. 

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

If we're ever 8-4 or 5-1 against our two main rivals I hope they keep that coach.

[8bucks 7,586]

Who has?

What real source has confirmed he was in Jeopardy of being fired prior to 6 days ago? (day before the visits)

Would Jake Query be a real source? Former local television guy now has an afternoon radio show.

[Happydaze 232]

Would Jake Query be a real source? Former local television guy now has an afternoon radio show.

What did he say?

[8bucks 7,586]

What did he say?

He talked quite a bit about IU sending out feelers to several coaches. Pretty sure they contacted Stevens and possibly some of the others we have talked about.

You don't start making contacts if you aren't thinking about making a change.

Query mentioned that Stevens would likely listen but would be more comfortable if there was some time between when the job opened and when they talk. Not real long but did not want it to look like he ran Crean off.

I think since then IU may have also heard that next year would be better timing. I think this may also have come from a couple of top candidates. That combined with the potential TB commit might give Crean another year.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

Maybe, but not solely based on those 2 criteria. He may just be a disgruntled guy passing his wishes as fact.

 

Seems like the name would have surfaced as a credible source.

 

 

Edit: The above post seems rather generic and nothing more than everyone speculated.

 

 

Anyway, something is going to happen. Either he'll stay or he'll go...

[8bucks 7,586]

Maybe, but not solely based on those 2 criteria. He may just be a disgruntled guy passing his wishes as fact.

Seems like the name would have surfaced as a credible source.


Edit: The above post seems rather generic and nothing more than everyone speculated.


Anyway, something is going to happen. Either he'll stay or he'll go...

Good chance he stays now but that does not mean people were not contacted. This is done through non affiliated people so you're not going to find a source much better than that.

I admit he is not perfect but he is employed by 1260 and while they like ratings they are going to have some caution about alienating IU with outright lies.

[Feathery 4,005]

I think if Crean gets us in the dance his future is in his own hands. Though he will be a lame duck coach and that is terrible for recruiting. If he loses Thursday, then I think he no longer had a say. It will be a race to see if he resigns or gets fired first.

[hoosierpap 14,300]

Because Pap said so. And you never question someone who refers to themselves in the third person, as a rule  :rtfm:

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,551]

I think if Crean gets us in the dance his future is in his own hands. Though he will be a lame duck coach and that is terrible for recruiting. If he loses Thursday, then I think he no longer had a say. It will be a race to see if he resigns or gets fired first.

pretty close to summing up my thoughts. He needed to recruit 2014 better to save his job IMO. He jacked around and wasted lots of scholarships. He had 2015 to show he could recruit the impact makers. Has failed so far. He also can't win with inferior talent and often losses with superior talent. His 7 years here prove this last statement true everyday. 3 years in, he could barely win a game. 7 years in with top 100 guys all over the roster we aren't great and are arguably not even good.

Not my Indiana standards by a long shot.

[HoosierAloha 30,102]

Because Pap said so. And you never question someone who refers to themselves in the third person, as a rule  :rtfm:

 

I'm not questioning Pap but....  is this on topic?

[hoosierpap 14,300]

I'm not questioning Pap but....  is this on topic?

lol Hoops was asking for sources.

[Uspshoosier 54,565]

pretty close to summing up my thoughts. He needed to recruit 2014 better to save his job IMO. He jacked around and wasted lots of scholarships. He had 2015 to show he could recruit the impact makers. Has failed so far. He also can't win with inferior talent and often losses with superior talent. His 7 years here prove this last statement true everyday. 3 years in, he could barely win a game. 7 years in with top 100 guys all over the roster we aren't great and are arguably not even good.

Not my Indiana standards by a long shot.

just curious when was the last time indiana was at your standard?

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,551]

just curious when was the last time indiana was at your standard?

lol. Good point. Maybe that's the problem.

Late 80's thru early 90's. 2002 was my favorite season as a student. I thought 2011-13 were great. Looked to be pointing towards elite.

I just want to be like Wisonsin, Michigan State, Ohio State has been over the past 15 years. Is that too much to ask for Indiana basketball?

[Uspshoosier 54,565]

lol. Good point. Maybe that's the problem.

Late 80's thru early 90's. 2002 was my favorite season as a student. I thought 2011-13 were great. Looked to be pointing towards elite.

I just want to be like Wisonsin, Michigan State, Ohio State has been over the past 15 years. Is that too much to ask for Indiana basketball?

early 90's for me also. We have had some good runs since just not as consistent. After our 1993 loss to Kansas in elite 8 our record in the tournament has not been pretty besides 2002 run

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,551]

just curious when was the last time indiana was at your standard?

also, here's a fun fact for ya.

1980-2003. IU missed NCAA tourney 1 time............. This is looking like back to back misses with elite talent in fold. Think about it!

[Uspshoosier 54,565]

also, here's a fun fact for ya.

1980-2003. IU missed NCAA tourney 1 time............. This is looking like back to back misses with elite talent in fold. Think about it!

just making the tournament wouldn't be my indiana standard. From 1994-present look how many times we were bounced in the 1st or second round ( not pretty)