College Bball Thread

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Yep it’s on one of the TVs.   Wyoming only down 3 

It was a rhetorical question for you, I was asking everyone else! LOL

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50 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

All losses are bad

You're correct, they should just cancel the remainder of the season. Every team has lost, most more than once and to a team they shouldn't have. Clearly no one is worthy of a championship, so it is time to just end it. Maybe that will teach teams to play harder and smarter if they stop getting rewarded for being less than perfect. 

Why would anyone want to watch losers play against other losers just to find out who the last loser standing is? I say just play the season until there is only one team remaining that hasn't lost, then crown them the champions. It'd make for awfully short seasons and we'd miss out on some great games but it's the only way I see to avoid rewarding losers. While we're at it, maybe we should consider instituting some kind of punishment for the losing players and coaches. The time of fans clearly wanting it more than players and coaches has to come to an end.

For that matter, with games meaning so much more now, why even bother with coaches who are demonstrated losers? Why reward a losing coach with a contract worth millions and any semblance of job security? Instead, let's have the most dedicated and knowledgeable fan from each team coach. Until they lose of course, then they have to go. We might just have to substitute fans for players too, if the players keep bringing less effort than the fans and especially if they continue to tolerate losing more than the fans. 

[Ryno6284 2,645]

cowboys take the lead

 

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

1 minute ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

If you want to just discuss bracketology then sure. But the Indiana fan base just does it in general. To justify our mediocrity. 

Bracketologist in me can point out that the Iowa game wasn’t a bad loss, the IU fandom in me can acknowledge that losing a 21 point lead on the road is a bad loss 

[IU Scott 2,375]

8 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

If you want to just discuss bracketology then sure. But the Indiana fan base just does it in general. To justify our mediocrity. 

Sure whatever you say but no one is justifying mediocrity.  Some can look at things objectively and realize that all programs go through the same things. Some others just look at the team they supposedly are fans of and think we are the only team with those problems.  I see people saying how we don't know how to face a zone just because some moron said so. Some just go with that theory because they want to have a reason to bash the coach. Like in 2016 where we lost to Syracuse people couldt believe how bad we did against their zone but they never look at that everyone that year struggled with their zone.

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2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

Sure whatever you say but no one is justify mediocrity.  Some can look at things objectively and realize that all programs gonthrough the same things. Some others just look at the team they supposedly are fans of and think we are the only team with those problems.  I see people saying how we don't know how to face a zone just because some moron said so. Some just gonwith that theory because they want to have a reason to badh the coach. Like in 2016 where we lost to Syracuse people couldt believe how bad we did against their zone but they never look at that everyone that year struggled with their zone.

Yea sure... Try and go find the last 25 year spell of mediocrity from Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke... 

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1 hour ago, Uspshoosier said:

Iowa loss to eastern Illinois smashed their NET.  Iowa isn’t a bad team they just had a brain fart against a terrible team even if their best player was out.  
 

Iowa has a convincing win against Iowa st who is good.  They have neutral court win  against Clemson and road win at Seton Hall.   People can trash IU for losing to them on the road but that’s not a bad loss for IU 

We might have different definitions of a brain fart. Losing your man on a single play seems more like a brain fart to me. Getting beat on your home floor to a team THAT bad? It wasn't like they played bad and got beat on a last second shot. They were handled in the second half by a team that sits at 350 on Kenpom AFTER winning at Iowa. That's horrible. They followed that up by getting run by Nebrasketball before looking bad at Penn State for ~35 minutes.

The Iowa loss itself isn't bad. Couple how it played out with what we've seen earlier in the season and it's bad. Add to that what Iowa looked like prior to that game and what we did in the first part of the first half. Ouch.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

16 minutes ago, cthomas said:

You are nearly always a voice of analytical reason we the fan base whips itself into a frenzy. Everyone sees things from the perspective that exists inside their head. Nothing wrong with that. But I always look forward to the more balanced view that you often bring.

I appreciate the kind words.   I try to bring a view from a college basketball fan not necessarily an IU fan.   

[Ryno6284 2,645]

Aztecs back up 1. 4:11 to go

 

[IU Scott 2,375]

7 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Yea sure... Try and go find the last 25 year spell of mediocrity from Kansas, Kentucky, UNC, Duke... 

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am referring to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

[Ryno6284 2,645]

cowboys miss the front end of 1 and 1.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,670]

Clemson locking up a road win at Pitt. 

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2 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am regfeting to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

You said every program goes through... Yea the elite ones have not... But I guess we don't want to be in that company anymore. 

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Just now, IU Scott said:

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am regfeting to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

Scott, it's not worth going back and forth about this stuff with younger IU fans on this board.  We come from a different generation and see things differently.  You will drive yourself crazy trying to explain yourself on here.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

4 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

We might have different definitions of a brain fart. Losing your man on a single play seems more like a brain fart to me. Getting beat on your home floor to a team THAT bad? It wasn't like they played bad and got beat on a last second shot. They were handled in the second half by a team that sits at 350 on Kenpom AFTER winning at Iowa. That's horrible. They followed that up by getting run by Nebrasketball before looking bad at Penn State for ~35 minutes.

The Iowa loss itself isn't bad. Couple how it played out with what we've seen earlier in the season and it's bad. Add to that what Iowa looked like prior to that game and what we did in the first part of the first half. Ouch.

I just take other things into consideration when viewing teams I guess.   Strange things happen during finals week for some teams and as this proved it happened a lot to some high majors during that period.  Not excusing it but there is a reason college coaches dread playing anyone that week.    Yep they lost on the road the next game after that.  Again for me that happens.     For as bad as they played in those games people should probably give them credit for how well they played against Big 12 leading Iowa st, ACC leading Clemson and a road win against seton hall.    Season is long and there is going to be ups and downs for almost every team.   Iowa had a really low point that they will pay the price for having. 

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5 minutes ago, IU Scott said:

What the hell does that have to do with this discussion. I have said our fans have been part of the problem and I am referring to fans like you. At every turn you take a chance to bash the coaches and players and maybe players and coaches don't want to play for fans like you. I have been told the fans have nothing to do with it so how are fans settling for mediocrity effect the team.  We have had 6 coaches and 5 AD's in the last 23 years so I think that shows that no one has settled for mediocrity.

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Just now, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

You said every program goes through... Yea the elite ones have not... But I guess we don't want to be in that company anymore. 

Well UNC and Duke this year are going through some problems. How bad does UNC have to to lose to such a sorry program like IU . Those two plus UK has as many if not more kisses than we do this year. 

When I say they go through the same problems I am talking about in the games. Like people  complaining about how we shot against a certain team but they don't look at the fact that every team they played hasn't shot well.

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Arizona kind of having a tough week. Struggled past Washington at home, now down 11 in the second half to Washington State. 

 

**Not trying to compare us in any way, make any excuses or generalizations; just an observation. 

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8 minutes ago, Ryno6284 said:

cowboys miss the front end of 1 and 1.

Ike missing the whole year so far has killed their season.    An injury that totally derailed a teams season 

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Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Ike missing the whole year so far has killed their season.    An injury that totally derailed a teams season 

Did I hear right?  They are missing 4 starters today?