College Bball Thread

[Hovadipo 55,957]

5 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I think you and I have agreed before that the charge/block call should just be taken out of the game. 

I believe so. I do think there is such a thing as a charge, but it isn’t when you grab your junk and take a dive before, during, or after the offensive player gathers. That’s just not a basketball play and it gets people hurt. 

[RaceToTheTop 25,618]

10 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

I think you and I have agreed before that the charge/block call should just be taken out of the game. 

If it were out of the game, why wouldn't an offensive player just bump his way into the lane?

Conversely, what keeps a defender from undercutting a player if there is no block/charge?

[RaceToTheTop 25,618]

Near fight in the Boise State/Utah State game.  Getting very chippy.  Boise State is up 23 with 3:16 so the game is over.  

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

Kansas st hits a 3 to take a 1 pt lead.   Baylor ball 31 sec to go 

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

Oklahoma up 12 at Texas Tech with 8 min to go.     Tech down some starters but they need this game 

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1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

Kansas st hits a 3 to take a 1 pt lead.   Baylor ball 31 sec to go 

Baylor just dribbled ball out of bounds.  Should be Kansas st ball up 1 with 6 sec to go 

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

4 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Baylor just dribbled ball out of bounds.  Should be Kansas st ball up 1 with 6 sec to go 

Kansas st holds on.  Massive road win for them.   Baylor 0-3 in conference with 2 home losses 

[RaceToTheTop 25,618]

Video of ten block or charge calls.  What do you have? (mine are below)

1.  block

2. block

3.  charge

4. charge

5.  block

6.  neither....that's a no call

7.  charge

8.  block

9.  block (although technical a pushing foul)

10.  block

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

Texas Tech on 8-0 run to go up 2 with 25 sec to go.   Oklahoma ball 

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5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Texas Tech on 8-0 run to go up 2 with 25 sec to go.   Oklahoma ball 

OT

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

2 hours ago, Ryno6284 said:

Yay, we got a break for once!

Think we got UNC at the right time too. They were coming back from Portland playing 3 games in 4 days with Bacot nicked up. I don't think we win that game with who UNC has available and who we're missing.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,671]

50 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

If it were out of the game, why wouldn't an offensive player just bump his way into the lane?

Conversely, what keeps a defender from undercutting a player if there is no block/charge?

I mean it really isn't that difficult. There would still be offensive and defensive fouls. But, offensive fouls would be much different. It'd really just be fouls because of the extension of the arm, clearing with elbows, hooking, out of control rumbling and bumbling like a fullback. At the same time, defended couldn't just purposely get bowled over and get in the way. Literally anywhere on the floor you can't "impede" the path of offensive players... UNLESS, the defenders decides to get ran over in the paint. It's stupid. It'd make the game much more simple and free flowing. 

[cthomas 6,416]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Think we got UNC at the right time too. They were coming back from Portland playing 3 games in 4 days with Bacot nicked up. I don't think we win that game with who UNC has available and who we're missing.

We can speculate all we want, but the results are the results. I thought IU should have won a national championship in '75 if not for Scott May's broken arm. But IU didn't and the result was a loss to Kentucky. Revisionist thinking does no one any good.

[Loaded Chicken Sandwich 8,671]

36 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Video of ten block or charge calls.  What do you have? (mine are below)

1.  block

2. block

3.  charge

4. charge

5.  block

6.  neither....that's a no call

7.  charge

8.  block

9.  block (although technical a pushing foul)

10.  block

1. Block

2. No Call

3. Charge

4. No call

5. No call

6. Block

7. No call

8. No call

9. No call

10. Block

[Hovadipo 55,957]

32 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Video of ten block or charge calls.  What do you have? (mine are below)

1.  block

2. block

3.  charge

4. charge

5.  block

6.  neither....that's a no call

7.  charge

8.  block

9.  block (although technical a pushing foul)

10.  block

I’ll be honest, I have mostly blocks (or flops) there, but 6 is my issue with the rule in one play. The dude isn’t playing defense. He’s gaming the system and it almost got himself and the offensive player hurt. He catches himself out of position and just stops in the shooter’s landing area. He also established his position after the shooter began his gather. If not for the current interpretation of the charge/block rule, I’m not sure doing that ever comes across the defender’s mind.

I want defenders to play defense, not try to trick the refs into thinking they’re getting run over. It isn’t “taking one for the team” like the Wisconsin’s of the world get their rocks off to, it’s dangerous and it isn’t basketball. A lot of times, I’m not sure how a guy taking a charge is any different than undercutting on a rebound or outright tripping someone. I do understand that there are plays where an offensive player lowers a shoulder and just blows through someone going to the basket, I just think the defender is given the benefit of the doubt wayyyyy too often.

I’m more concerned with the bang-bang plays at the basket than anything, btw. I think charge/player control fouls are relatively reasonably called around the perimeter. 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

20 minutes ago, cthomas said:

We can speculate all we want, but the results are the results. I thought IU should have won a national championship in '75 if not for Scott May's broken arm. But IU didn't and the result was a loss to Kentucky. Revisionist thinking does no one any good.

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

9 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

Always need them come selection Sunday.   Quality non conference wins.     Probably go through a ton of teams and say they caught so and so at the right time glad we played them when we did.   Season is long 

[cthomas 6,416]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

It wasn't mandatory for you to participate but it seems you enjoyed speculating for a moment of what could have been in '75.

Good and great wins against UNC and at Xavier, respectfully. I can see that. I can also see where they are and where we are currently. Happy we have those on our resume. We might end up really needing them on Selection Sunday.

My point was what might have been was irrelevant to what actually happened. Timing means a lot in all things. It has shaped my life for sure. This team as currently constructed has a lower ceiling than the one that started the season. Our opponents going forward won't care who is missing from our lineup. We will win or lose with who we have. The record book won't care about anything else. Yes, I thought the '75 team was national championship good before the May injury. But the injury happened and IU was not good enough to overcome it. That was the reality and I can accept that. This season will play however it does with who we have available as will every other teams. If this was a closed or by invitation only thread, then I apologize for inserting my thoughts into it.

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

6 minutes ago, cthomas said:

My point was what might have been was irrelevant to what actually happened. Timing means a lot in all things. It has shaped my life for sure. This team as currently constructed has a lower ceiling than the one that started the season. Our opponents going forward won't care who is missing from our lineup. We will win or lose with who we have. The record book won't care about anything else. Yes, I thought the '75 team was national championship good before the May injury. But the injury happened and IU was not good enough to overcome it. That was the reality and I can accept that. This season will play however it does with who we have available as will every other teams. If this was a closed or by invitation only thread, then I apologize for inserting my thoughts into it.

College basketball thread is for everyone that loves college basketball  anytime of the day to talk about the greatest sport on the planet.  

[Uspshoosier 45,608]

Blackmon saved the game for Stetson on the defensive end to stop a driver to the basketball.  That stop forced OT where Stetson is up 7.