College Bball Thread

[TheWatShot]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

 But his low post moves are polished for a college sophomore. 

He's a junior. 

[Uspshoosier]

"Four days into the season, the (Villanova) Wildcats now have the most impressive win in college basketball." --cbssports

 

Uh, what?

True road win vs a top 15 team compared to neutral court win vs a top 3 team. NCAA committee puts more weight on true road games

Personally I would say the neutral court win against a top 3 team is better

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[OliviaPope40]

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2676027-duke-vs-kansas-may-be-a-title-game-preview-but-both-have-growing-pains-ahead

[HoosierAloha]

San Diego St gets blown out because they can't hit a shot. That's a first..

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Interesting stat from the PUke game from Jon Rothstein.

Villanova scored 79 points last night and only made seven 3's. What did the Cats' expose? Purdue really misses A.J. Hammons defensively.

[BGleas]

It was hard for me to tell if Purdue is really that good, or if of the top teams in the country Villanova is a really favorable matchup for them and it was at home. Not saying Purdue isn't good, I'm just not sure how good yet. Villanova is one of the few top teams that has almost no inside, big presence. 

While Haas is huge compared to everyone and Swanigan is a stud, teams like Duke, UK, UNC, IU, Arizona, etc., all at least have bigs that can pose a resistance. So, I'll be interested to see Purdue against a team that can at least matchup with their interior a little bit. 

[Stuhoo]

 

Purdue is a good team, but kinda unique for this day in age. 

Positionless basketball? Not them; no way, no day. Dribble drive...drive and kick? Ummm, nope.

They have very good shooters, very, very, very good low post scoring, and not one single player with the ability to break a team down off of the dribble. Not much perimeter quickness for defense, and very little in transition. Thank goodness we have two legit wide bodies to battle Haas. MSU is gonna have some trouble with him!

 

[VO5]

Am I the only one who just isn't that impressed with Haas? I think Purdue has a good team don't get me wrong, but Haas has the benefit of just being bigger than everyone else. He doesn't have any moves down low except turn one way and throw up a shot off the glass or he just lays it in. That makes him a good college player by default, but in the NBA he'll be eaten alive by all the athletic 5s

[biteoftheapple]

Am I the only one who just isn't that impressed with Haas? I think Purdue has a good team don't get me wrong, but Haas has the benefit of just being bigger than everyone else. He doesn't have any moves down low except turn one way and throw up a shot off the glass or he just lays it in. That makes him a good college player by default, but in the NBA he'll be eaten alive by all the athletic 5s

One thing, is he is not in the NBA.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Ex-Northwestern player Johnnie Vasser viles an anti-trust lawsuit against the school.  Lots of allegations some you probably need to take with a grain of salt as is the case with most lawsuits of this nature.  

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/11/15/johnnie-vasser-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-northwestern-ncaa-over-transfer-rules/

[Brass Cannon]

6 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Ex-Northwestern player Johnnie Vasser viles an anti-trust lawsuit against the school.  Lots of allegations some you probably need to take with a grain of salt as is the case with most lawsuits of this nature.  

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/11/15/johnnie-vasser-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-northwestern-ncaa-over-transfer-rules/

Pretty sure Northwestern can just yank a scholarship. I don't think they needed him to transfer. 

[Stuhoo]

26 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Ex-Northwestern player Johnnie Vasser viles an anti-trust lawsuit against the school.  Lots of allegations some you probably need to take with a grain of salt as is the case with most lawsuits of this nature.  

http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2016/11/15/johnnie-vasser-files-antitrust-lawsuit-against-northwestern-ncaa-over-transfer-rules/

 

Chris Collins regularly told Vassar he "sucked at basketball" in hopes that it would motivate the kid to transfer.

He's got nothing on this guy!

 

 

[VO5]

1 hour ago, biteoftheapple said:

One thing, is he is not in the NBA.

I didn't say he was?

[biteoftheapple]

I didn't say he was?

Then why use what you think he will be as a comparative tool?

[HoosierAloha]

Am I the only one who just isn't that impressed with Haas? I think Purdue has a good team don't get me wrong, but Haas has the benefit of just being bigger than everyone else. He doesn't have any moves down low except turn one way and throw up a shot off the glass or he just lays it in. That makes him a good college player by default, but in the NBA he'll be eaten alive by all the athletic 5s

These are my thoughts as well. He's huge! That allows him to get good position and finish around the rim. However, against a player with good size and skill he's outmatched. Can he even think about defending Bryant? Nope, I can see quick early fouls at AH when Bryant catches at the arc and Haas is in big man defensive purgatory. On the other end as long as Bryant can keep him from catching in the lane hell struggle to score. For smaller teams running a second defender at him throws him off as he's not quick enough, decision making or physically, to get the ball out. Hell really struggle with all the athletes at the next level.

[Crimson and Cream]

2 hours ago, VO5 said:

Am I the only one who just isn't that impressed with Haas? I think Purdue has a good team don't get me wrong, but Haas has the benefit of just being bigger than everyone else. He doesn't have any moves down low except turn one way and throw up a shot off the glass or he just lays it in. That makes him a good college player by default, but in the NBA he'll be eaten alive by all the athletic 5s

Agreed. He's not that good, he's just big. He'll struggle against teams that have actual centers, plus he's a major liability when taken away from the basket. 

[Crimson and Cream]

44 minutes ago, biteoftheapple said:

Then why use what you think he will be as a comparative tool?

Someone else mentioned that he has NBA potential

[Crimson and Cream]

Who does Purdue play in the B1G/ACC Challenge?

[Stuhoo]

8 minutes ago, Crimson and Cream said:

Agreed. He's not that good, he's just big. He'll struggle against teams that have actual centers, plus he's a major liability when taken away from the basket. 

I'm not sure I agree that he's not that good. Limited? Yes. But he's very, very good at certain things.  He has learned to push hard for interior position, and when he does, it's a foul or a basket almost every time. That can be very effective against good teams with smaller or inexperienced bigs. He drove Nova nuts in the second half last night. MSU and UM don't have an answer for him either. We are lucky; TB and DD both have better bulk to deal with him that almost any other team.

Nothing would make me happier than to see Ivan Drago body slam UK's freshman bigs in an NCAA tourney game.

 

[Crimson and Cream]

27 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

I'm not sure I agree that he's not that good. Limited? Yes. But he's very, very good at certain things.  He has learned to push hard for interior position, and when he does, it's a foul or a basket almost every time. That can be very effective against good teams with smaller or inexperienced bigs. He drove Nova nuts in the second half last night. MSU and UM don't have an answer for him either. We are lucky; TB and DD both have better bulk to deal with him that almost any other team.

Nothing would make me happier than to see Ivan Drago body slam UK's freshman bigs in an NCAA tourney game.

 

That's a fair assessment