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[Home Jersey 17,116]

Let me know when they arrest the execs at Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings, lol 

[Stuhoo 91,940]

9 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

If I'm reading correctly, Billups is one of apparently a few high profile people that played in the games and were used to lure regular people in to get robbed essentially. Don't know how he and Rozier are connected, but one of the allegations against Rozier is something along the lines of "told the mob he was going to exit a game early, mobsters put a LOT of money on his unders, he exited after 9 minutes, they made tens of thousands, and there was some sort of money exchange at Rozier's residence."

Seems as though Rozier is in deep doo-doo. 

Billups? He will have had to have known not just that he was getting paid to lure big spenders to a game, but also to have known that the purpose for doing so was to defraud those invitees. And if I'm the leaders of the conspiracy, there'd be no reason to share that with Billups. If he didn't know that was the purpose it would be like inviting a celeb to be the door greeter at your casino with the intent of luring customers.

[Stuhoo 91,940]

If this article is to be believed, then Rozier would have to have known that his friend was selling the info and/or profited from the sale. 

"Terry Rozier gave private information about his plan to leave a March 2023 game early to his childhood best friend, who sold the information to conspirators who would place bets on the game, an unsealed indictment alleged.

A second indictment released today in Operation Nothing But Bet alleges that Rozier planned to remove himself from the first quarter of the Charlotte Hornets game against the New Orleans Pelicans over a supposed injury. Prosecutors said he gave that information, which the Hornets weren't aware of, to his childhood best friend, who was also named in the indictment.

His friend was promised approximately $100,000 from the expected fraudulent gambling winnings, the indictment said."

 

[wirenuts 1,458]

41 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Let me know when they arrest the execs at Fan Duel and/or Draft Kings, lol 

Yes this is a much better excuse that it is a rigged conspiracy against my bets rather than the excuse that I'm terrible at sports betting lol

[Hovadipo 62,934]

13 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

Yes this is a much better excuse that it is a rigged conspiracy against my bets rather than the excuse that I'm terrible at sports betting lol

In all seriousness I’m almost certain I’ve been got by Terry Rozier. He’s constantly doing sketchy stuff in my parlays. 

[wirenuts 1,458]

7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

In all seriousness I’m almost certain I’ve been got by Terry Rozier. He’s constantly doing sketchy stuff in my parlays. 

I bet a very high percentage of draftkings bettors have been gotten by Terry Rozier, including myself. I have bet on him when he was in a heat uniform, and some of the clips they show of his play is blatantly obvious

[Hovadipo 62,934]

30 minutes ago, wirenuts said:

I bet a very high percentage of draftkings bettors have been gotten by Terry Rozier, including myself. I have bet on him when he was in a heat uniform, and some of the clips they show of his play is blatantly obvious

It was bad in Charlotte too. 

[Hovadipo 62,934]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Seems as though Rozier is in deep doo-doo. 

Billups? He will have had to have known not just that he was getting paid to lure big spenders to a game, but also to have known that the purpose for doing so was to defraud those invitees. And if I'm the leaders of the conspiracy, there'd be no reason to share that with Billups. If he didn't know that was the purpose it would be like inviting a celeb to be the door greeter at your casino with the intent of luring customers.

I mean…it sounds like the people at the table were the ones rigging the games with some wild cheating technology. I suppose it’s possible he was left in the dark on that, but I kinda find that hard to believe. 

[Demo 25,388]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

If this article is to be believed, then Rozier would have to have known that his friend was selling the info and/or profited from the sale. 

"Terry Rozier gave private information about his plan to leave a March 2023 game early to his childhood best friend, who sold the information to conspirators who would place bets on the game, an unsealed indictment alleged.

A second indictment released today in Operation Nothing But Bet alleges that Rozier planned to remove himself from the first quarter of the Charlotte Hornets game against the New Orleans Pelicans over a supposed injury. Prosecutors said he gave that information, which the Hornets weren't aware of, to his childhood best friend, who was also named in the indictment.

His friend was promised approximately $100,000 from the expected fraudulent gambling winnings, the indictment said."

 

Rozier has signed contracts worth $160,000,000. He's in his last year of this one at 26 mil. And he's still good enough to have probably gotten 1 more short deal. Who in God's name risks that plus their reputation plus their freedom for anything at all? This isn't even a question of being not smart, obviously there are people with serious issues with this stuff, but you have this thing called life effectively licked. God, could he really not seek help?

[tyappleg 8,366]

2 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

Seems as though Rozier is in deep doo-doo. 

Billups? He will have had to have known not just that he was getting paid to lure big spenders to a game, but also to have known that the purpose for doing so was to defraud those invitees. And if I'm the leaders of the conspiracy, there'd be no reason to share that with Billups. If he didn't know that was the purpose it would be like inviting a celeb to be the door greeter at your casino with the intent of luring customers.

I posted in the other thread, but from the NBA perspective he's only referred to as "Coach A" in the Rozier case... but... Billups also told people that they were tanking and and let them know of Injuries that weren't public.  He's toast in the NBA if that can be proven true.

[LIHoosier 28,463]

40 minutes ago, Demo said:

Rozier has signed contracts worth $160,000,000. He's in his last year of this one at 26 mil. And he's still good enough to have probably gotten 1 more short deal. Who in God's name risks that plus their reputation plus their freedom for anything at all? This isn't even a question of being not smart, obviously there are people with serious issues with this stuff, but you have this thing called life effectively licked. God, could he really not seek help?

Go watch the old ESPN 30 for 30 called Broke. You pay about half in taxes, get divorced, owe child support based on your current salary, make a couple bad investments, set up some family members close or extended and that money even that much can get dwindled down. Don't know Rozier's specific case, but making ungodly amounts of money doesn't necessarily equal generational wealth if you're not prudent.

[Home Jersey 17,116]

53 minutes ago, Demo said:

Rozier has signed contracts worth $160,000,000. He's in his last year of this one at 26 mil. And he's still good enough to have probably gotten 1 more short deal. Who in God's name risks that plus their reputation plus their freedom for anything at all? This isn't even a question of being not smart, obviously there are people with serious issues with this stuff, but you have this thing called life effectively licked. God, could he really not seek help?

People with that much money tend to have, on some level, disordered personalities / maladaptive behaviors. That often helps them amass such wealth. Obsessive enough to become so good at basketball you earn 160M for it. A feeling of invincibility. High risk behaviors, including gambling especially. Billionaires save money like hoarders clutter their homes lol.

In Rozier and Billups case, it's totally self-inflicted and don't think anyone else will ever understand/agree with their decision making. They've got their own brand of logic (or lack thereof). 

But too many pockets are getting greased by gambling (legal and illegal) for anything meaningful to ever be done about it, aside from the occasional sacrificial lambs being offered up. Probably best to just appreciate sports as pure entertainment and leave it at that, the way things are heading. 

[Stuhoo 91,940]

Oh wow… pro poker players were damn sure that Billups was a 100% criminal at these games years ago.

Go to the 27 minute mark of this video from 2023!!

 

[str8baller 7,923]

2 hours ago, Hovadipo said:

I mean…it sounds like the people at the table were the ones rigging the games with some wild cheating technology. I suppose it’s possible he was left in the dark on that, but I kinda find that hard to believe. 

 

2 hours ago, tyappleg said:

I posted in the other thread, but from the NBA perspective he's only referred to as "Coach A" in the Rozier case... but... Billups also told people that they were tanking and and let them know of Injuries that weren't public.  He's toast in the NBA if that can be proven true.

Yea, that would be fairly likely the way the FBI has framed this as one giant conspiracy. They wanted to do the press conference today but didn’t have enough to charge him. I’m guessing they’re working on that. Damon Jones is already indicted on both ends of the scheme.