Off Season Progress/Notes

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@crimsonquarry: I don’t hate it. RT @AndyWittry: I asked Yogi what his crunch-time lineup was. He said himself, James, Nick, Troy and Hanner. #iubb

Some great stuff coming out today.

 

Betcha that's CTC's current crunch time lineup too.

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Interesting that it's not just coach mentioning Ziesloft now. The players have bought in as well. That's HUGE

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,000]

@insidethehall: Preseason coaches poll is out: Wisconsin (4), Michigan State (18), Ohio State (20), Nebraska (21), Michigan (23), Iowa (25).

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@insidethehall: Yogi Ferrell on Stan Robinson switching his shooting hand: “I feel like his right handed form is better than his left.” #iubb

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@insidethehall: Yogi Ferrell on Stan Robinson switching his shooting hand: “I feel like his right handed form is better than his left.” #iubb

@MikeMillerHT: Tom Crean on Stan Robinson switching to his right hand: "My thing is let's be the best 2-handed player you can be."

[CampHoosier 3,697]

Did anyone see the tweet by ITH that Yogi stated "all IU players living in on-campus housing this season." Coach got serious

[BGleas 8,977]

I love Troy and think/hope he's due for a big year, but having him be the backup point guard is a horrible decision, just like it was with Hollowell. A coaches job is to put people in a position to be successful and this would not be doing that for anybody. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,000]

I love Troy and think/hope he's due for a big year, but having him be the backup point guard is a horrible decision, just like it was with Hollowell. A coaches job is to put people in a position to be successful and this would not be doing that for anybody.

I mostly agree but we were at our best in 2013 when VO was on point and playing at the top with the ball. He drew the attention of 4 defenders at the top of the key.

Troy may be able to do the same. Funny we went from forum banter of Troy at the 5 to Troy at the 1. Lol. Now that is versatility.

[RoadToZion 2,173]

Although a small sample size, Troy did quite well taking people off the dribble from the top of the key. We didn't think Victor could do it initially either. To me, it actually does look like Troy could see time up top.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLL28dGMiWA

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I mostly agree but we were at our best in 2013 when VO was on point and playing at the top with the ball. He drew the attention of 4 defenders at the top of the key.

Troy may be able to do the same. Funny we went from forum banter of Troy at the 5 to Troy at the 1. Lol. Now that is versatility.

Well the difference between Troy and Vic (we all know there's a lot) is that Vic was a pretty solid ball handler his Junior year. I got nervous when Troy was forced to dribble last year. I'm sure he's improved, but I doubt enough to play the 1.

[BGleas 8,977]

While he definitely had to make improvements with his handle during his career, Vic was still always a guard. Troy is a wing/stretch 4,not the same thing. 

 

IMO, Troy is more comparable to Hollowell. Regardless, we don't want Troy initiating offense, we want him finishing it. 

I mostly agree but we were at our best in 2013 when VO was on point and playing at the top with the ball. He drew the attention of 4 defenders at the top of the key.

Troy may be able to do the same. Funny we went from forum banter of Troy at the 5 to Troy at the 1. Lol. Now that is versatility.

[BGleas 8,977]

What are we talking about here though? Playing point guard and dribbling the basketball aren't the same thing. There's a difference between being the floor general, getting the team into it's sets, etc., and just making moves with the dribble. That clip was largely Troy just making moves, good moves for sure, but it wasn't him playing point guard. 

 

Although a small sample size, Troy did quite well taking people off the dribble from the top of the key. We didn't think Victor could do it initially either. To me, it actually does look like Troy could see time up top.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLL28dGMiWA

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What are we talking about here though? Playing point guard and dribbling the basketball aren't the same thing. There's a difference between being the floor general, getting the team into it's sets, etc., and just making moves with the dribble. That clip was largely Troy just making moves, good moves for sure, but it wasn't him playing point guard.

Speaking of this though, remember coming off the tip of the Canada game that was streamed? Devin got the ball, brought it up court, then took his guy off the dribble for a basket. Now THAT was impressive.

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What are we talking about here though? Playing point guard and dribbling the basketball aren't the same thing. There's a difference between being the floor general, getting the team into it's sets, etc., and just making moves with the dribble. That clip was largely Troy just making moves, good moves for sure, but it wasn't him playing point guard. 

True. But he very well could have been playing point there. Theres a reason why Yogi said Troy was next in line at point during the press conferences today. I'm guessing Troy played some during the Canada trip. Just an observation. 

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Did anyone see the tweet by ITH that Yogi stated "all IU players living in on-campus housing this season." Coach got serious

 

I stopped by one of my friend's apartments during welcome week, he lives in the Union Street apartments and he told me that Stan and Collin were a few doors down from him. I almost didn't believe him at the time because I was used to them being in the Smallwood area after getting out of the dorms but now it makes much more sense to me. 

 

Smart move by Crean. Much closer to Cook Hall and I believe that the whole team living in the same area will help team chemistry. 

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Troy's not going to play PG!  When Yogi isn't on the court it will be up to RoJo or Blackmon.

Then I guess Yogi has no clue what he's talking about then?

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I don't think Troy is going to be bringing the ball up the floor. I think this simply means that Troy will be playing, a la Oladipo, with the ball in his hands in the half court with high center ball picks in the middle of the floor. IMO this was coming as Troy's ballhandling improved... if he's there already, IU is in good shape.

[WayneFleekHoosier 51,000]

I don't think Troy is going to be bringing the ball up the floor. I think this simply means that Troy will be playing, a la Oladipo, with the ball in his hands in the half court with high center ball picks in the middle of the floor. IMO this was coming as Troy's ballhandling improved... if he's there already, IU is in good shape.

yep. Agree. That was my point with the Oladipo reference. Troy could be dangerous off ball screens with shooters spaced out!!!!!!

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True. But he very well could have been playing point there. Theres a reason why Yogi said Troy was next in line at point during the press conferences today. I'm guessing Troy played some during the Canada trip. Just an observation.

guessing that reason is crean has been trying that in practice, just like he did hollowell last year. Didn't make sense then and doesn't now. We have 3 other players more capable than Troy and that isn't a knock on Troy, he just isn't a pg


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[shortspacequickness 1,034]

I think a lot of people struggle to consider possibilities outside of what they know as fans of basketball; Troy with the ball in his hands attacking the rim is a great thing... don't really see how that could be bad. If he's turning it over, do you really think he's going to be in that position? With the guards we have? Leave it to IU fans to overreact to a passing comment made in an interview, lbs.

 

Lot of concerns about this team...who plays backup point guard is the least of them. We have Yogi Ferrell, James Blackmon, Robert Johnson. In fine shape there.