(2019) SF Trendon Watford to LSU

[HinnyHoosier 4,809]

I enjoyed the part in the interview when Trendon spoke about how his brother couldn't walk around anywhere without being stopped for pics. That kind of fandom goes a long ways in showing how these guys are revered and remembered for being part of this program. I doubt that happens in Tuscaloosa.

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There's probably not a lot of recognition there unless you've ever worn pads and a helmet.



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[HoosierMatty 454]

His relationship with Christian wasn't the best so maybe he thought the family wouldn't want to be involved the next go around but the fact that he never asked/inquired is crazy and stubborn


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What you have heard about his relationship or any of his former players for that matter? It seems like Crean burns bridges. With Indiana high school coaches he seemed to hold a grudge against them if their players didn't come to him. At least thats what I read on forums in the past. Not to mention anyone instate saw he couldn't coach.

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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Crean didn't recruits Brooks OR Watford. That's beyond dumb

[Brass Cannon 24,301]

2 minutes ago, Hoosier Guy said:

Crean didn't recruits Brooks OR Watford. That's beyond dumb

Sounds like he had backed off Romeo also

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

5 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Sounds like he had backed off Romeo also

Because IU had no chance of getting Romeo. Archie is the reason all three of these recruits could be at IU

[HoosierMatty 454]

Crean was pretty much self aware he wasn't going to get in state players that were top rated anymore. He burned too many bridges. People who get on us for wanting him gone are crazy.

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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

49 minutes ago, HoosierMatty said:

Crean was pretty much self aware he wasn't going to get in state players that were top rated anymore. He burned too many bridges. People who get on us for wanting him gone are crazy.

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It is of utmost importance to recruit this state. This state has way too many good players to not recruit it. Archie gets it

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Just now, Iugradman said:

We hired three straight coaches who either ignored or turned off the majority of instate recruits. You couldn't make such bad hires if you tried. Unreal. We wasted twenty five years with poor decision making. 

These are some of the coaches we could have hired over the last fifteen years, for better or worse:

Pitino (available in 2002 but we kept Davis instead)

Matta (available in 2004 but we kept Davis after a losing season)

Calipari (available in 2006 but we hired Samsum instead)

Brad Stevens (available in 2011 but we kept Crean and his 28-66 record)

Billy Donovan (available in 2015 but we kept Crean after a 20-14 season)

 

Too true lol. Kinda sad too. But I think IU finally got its guy

[HoosierMatty 454]

It is of utmost importance to recruit this state. This state has way too many good players to not recruit it. Archie gets it

Crean used to get when he took the job. He did well at first at getting the in state players. Pretty much after 2012 it all came crashing down. I have much more confidence that Archie won't let that happen.

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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

1 minute ago, HoosierMatty said:

Crean used to get when he took the job. He did well at first at getting the in state players. Pretty much after 2012 it all came crashing down. I have much more confidence that Archie won't let that happen.

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Pretty much after that Syracuse game

[ebridges24 2,425]

36 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

We lost out on Deshaun Thomas, Marquis Teague, Gary Harris, Branden Dawson, Kellen Dunham, Mitch McGary, GR III, and AJ Hammons before 2012. Trey Lyles decommitted before the 2012-13 season. The warning signs were there.

I think Zeller picked IU because of local pressure more than anything.

I do think Cody was happy with his decision in the end. Maybe not so much the bball end of it, but just going to IU i think he loved.

[ebridges24 2,425]

Just now, Iugradman said:

Which is an indictment of Crean and his stewardship of the basketball program. His star recruit was disappointed in his basketball experience.

Agreed

[Brass Cannon 24,301]

1 hour ago, Iugradman said:

We hired three straight coaches who either ignored or turned off the majority of instate recruits. You couldn't make such bad hires if you tried. Unreal. We wasted twenty five years with poor decision making. 

These are some of the coaches we could have hired over the last fifteen years, for better or worse:

Pitino (available in 2001 but we kept Davis instead)

Matta (available in 2004 but we kept Davis after a losing season)

Calipari (available in 2006 but we hired Samscum instead)

Brad Stevens (available in 2011 but we kept Crean and his 28-66 record)

Billy Donovan (available in 2015 but we kept Crean after a 20-14 season)

 

Don't forget Beilein also when we hired Crean 

[MoyeNeeded 3,073]

Crean used to get when he took the job. He did well at first at getting the in state players. Pretty much after 2012 it all came crashing down. I have much more confidence that Archie won't let that happen.

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Alot of kids and coaches after the Syracuse beatdown realized that CTC was not a good coach. There are probably 30 or more high school coaches (oh what the hell!) posters on here that are better at X's and O's than Crean. From ALL accounts, Archie alot better. This will regain the confidence of the coaches and players instate.

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[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,198]

Crean didn't recruits Brooks OR Watford. That's beyond dumb

I'm of the belief he didn't want a whole team of major talent. He wanted the projects to show how he could develop players. Of course maybe with the exception for VO and perhaps OG I didn't see it much. Of course a very good case could it was all those players wanting it. I'm with the latter

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[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

Just now, iufaninillinois said:

I'm of the belief he didn't want a whole team of major talent. He wanted the projects to show how he could develop players. Of course maybe with the exception for VO and perhaps OG I didn't see it much. Of course a very good case could it was all those players wanting it. I'm with the latter

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Oladipo's development blew my mind. Crean had some hand in that but I agree with your premise. It was more of VO and OG wanting it rather than Crean coaching them well

[Hoosier Guy 7,529]

18 minutes ago, Iugradman said:

Pretty much all player development under Crean was due to the player. The list of players who did not develop under Crean is much, much longer.

No doubt about that

[Uspshoosier 45,345]

Back to Trendon and not crean hopefully I'm looking forward to tracking his progress his junior year


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[JSHoosier 19,932]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Back to Trendon and not crean hopefully I'm looking forward to tracking his progress his junior year


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Yeah, this should be about the recruit.  I wasn't trying to get that far off topic.

[woodenshoemanHoosierfan 6,198]

Pretty much all player development under Crean was due to the player. The list of players who did not develop under Crean is much, much longer.

Yep

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