Pagoda Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM Posted Tuesday at 04:19 PM 28 minutes ago, Home Jersey said: Why don't we have a packed out stadium for every volleyball or field hockey game? The students are not obligated to support any of the sports teams. Football was terrible for decades and had no home crowds. They started winning and now the football culture is much bigger than tailgating then partying and skipping the game. The stadium is full because the program warrants that response. Basketball was great for decades and built an amazing culture. But that culture has eroded over the past 30 or so years and most students have never seen an IUBB program that is for real. So why would they bother going to basketball games if they don't go to volleyball or field hockey? And why should we as alumni find it "inexcusable" for students to not take time out of their weekend to sit in the balcony for a just so-so basketball team? IUBB has to earn back what it has lost. That's on the program, not the students. Yea. And frankly I think the student attendance we get is pretty darn good for a team that has made the tourney two times in 10 years. Those sort of results at almost all other schools would get like half the attendance or less. If we have a good team and student attendance is light… I can definitely understand some criticism. But I think we need to show a pulse on the court before getting too critical. Just my $0.02, if people feel differently I get it. Home Jersey and mike vannice 2 Quote
hper50 Posted Tuesday at 05:23 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:23 PM 1 hour ago, Home Jersey said: Why don't we have a packed out stadium for every volleyball or field hockey game? The students are not obligated to support any of the sports teams. Football was terrible for decades and had no home crowds. They started winning and now the football culture is much bigger than tailgating then partying and skipping the game. The stadium is full because the program warrants that response. Basketball was great for decades and built an amazing culture. But that culture has eroded over the past 30 or so years and most students have never seen an IUBB program that is for real. So why would they bother going to basketball games if they don't go to volleyball or field hockey? And why should we as alumni find it "inexcusable" for students to not take time out of their weekend to sit in the balcony for a just so-so basketball team? IUBB has to earn back what it has lost. That's on the program, not the students. The argument isn't about student attendance, it's about complaining about not playing at home when attendance is poor. And I guess I don't understand the volleyball or field hockey argument. Those games aren't packed because the sports aren't popular, not because the programs aren't succeeding. Soccer and swimming are probably our best two programs year-over-year in recent memory and those aren't packed either. Quote
Hovadipo Posted Tuesday at 05:54 PM Posted Tuesday at 05:54 PM 28 minutes ago, hper50 said: The argument isn't about student attendance, it's about complaining about not playing at home when attendance is poor 9th in the country in raw average attendance and averaging 91% of capacity per game. Seems decent to me. Home Jersey 1 Quote
American HoosierX Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM Posted Tuesday at 06:36 PM 2 hours ago, hper50 said: Then why are we begging to play at home if the students don't want to come because we suck? I don't feel bad for them when they can literally walk to the games. Maybe we wouldn't suck anymore if we actually had a home court advantage. I missed one game I had a ticket to in four years as a student. Completely inexcusable to have a completely empty balcony for Michigan State on a Sunday afternoon. That place was dead, and would've been totally winnable if we had a crowd show up. Edit: I should have read through the rest of responses before I responded. Others made the point better than I did. Quote
hper50 Posted Tuesday at 08:36 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:36 PM 2 hours ago, Hovadipo said: 9th in the country in raw average attendance and averaging 91% of capacity per game. Seems decent to me. Not being facetious, genuinely asking - do you know if those numbers reflect purchased tickets or tickets scanned at the gate? I feel like even some bigger games haven't had close to 91%, let alone the average across the season Quote
LIHoosier Posted Tuesday at 08:43 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:43 PM For ages now, those numbers are paid attendance, not arrived attendance. That's for pro and college. Quote
Hovadipo Posted Tuesday at 08:44 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:44 PM 6 minutes ago, hper50 said: Not being facetious, genuinely asking - do you know if those numbers reflect purchased tickets or tickets scanned at the gate? I feel like even some bigger games haven't had close to 91%, let alone the average across the season I don't. Depends on the numbers the school provided. It may be fudged, but I still don't think our attendance is that bad. I'm less annoyed about playing games in Indy than I am that there are no good non-con games in Bloomington while simultaneously jacking up season ticket prices. Shooter and BannerVille 2 Quote
hper50 Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM 7 minutes ago, Hovadipo said: I don't. Depends on the numbers the school provided. It may be fudged, but I still don't think our attendance is that bad. I'm less annoyed about playing games in Indy than I am that there are no good non-con games in Bloomington while simultaneously jacking up season ticket prices. Agreed - I'm totally understanding of that Quote
hper50 Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:53 PM 10 minutes ago, LIHoosier said: For ages now, those numbers are paid attendance, not arrived attendance. That's for pro and college. That's what I assumed - thanks Quote
jermhoosierfan Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM Posted Thursday at 07:36 PM On 6/22/2026 at 10:16 AM, Hovadipo said: Just an exhibition, but my God they will play a game anywhere but Assembly Hall. Has anyone got the pre-sale tickets yet? The ones I saw on Ticketmaster were $140 to $180. I am not going if that is the price. I could've seen Journey there last week for those prices. Home Jersey 1 Quote
IU Prof Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM Posted Thursday at 09:24 PM 1 hour ago, jermhoosierfan said: Has anyone got the pre-sale tickets yet? The ones I saw on Ticketmaster were $140 to $180. I am not going if that is the price. I could've seen Journey there last week for those prices. Public sale starts tomorrow morning. Pre sale tickets in the 100s between the baseline start at $180... Quote
Pagoda Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM Posted Thursday at 10:13 PM IU has lost their minds on exhibition game pricing. For those prices you can go to regular season game(s) at Assembly against as good or even better opponents. Or you could go to a football game. For an exhibition game decent (not amazing) seat… $40 max imo. Cmon IU… price these games lower to get people in the door. Get more fans engaged with IUBB again. mike vannice, pumpfake, go iu bb and 4 others 7 Quote
Aaron Posted Thursday at 11:31 PM Posted Thursday at 11:31 PM 1 hour ago, Pagoda said: IU has lost their minds on exhibition game pricing. For those prices you can go to regular season game(s) at Assembly against as good or even better opponents. Or you could go to a football game. For an exhibition game decent (not amazing) seat… $40 max imo. Cmon IU… price these games lower to get people in the door. Get more fans engaged with IUBB again. I'm going to slightly disagree here. While on the surface the prices are absurd, the market will decide if that is to high. With dynamic pricing on everything, if they don't sell at that price they will come down (this goes for primary and secondary market). Teams and venues always start at the highest prize and bring it down if no one bites. To me UNC and Syracuse games in Indy are to high right now and few tickets have sold. If they continue to move at slow pace price will come down. Its why one cant jump at tickets anymore the moment they are released and have to evaluate if prices will likely go up or down closer to time based on demand. I put in for Kentucky basketball tickets and IU football season tickets already at $100 and $500 respectively since I don't see it getting any lower. However, UNC and Syracuse are overpriced right now with plenty of tickets available so I am waiting it out. Key is not jumping anymore as soon as tickets are released and evaluating if they will likely go up or down closer to time. Its a bit of a guessing game but one has to use best judgement and jumping on every ticket as soon as they are released is worse thing one can do with current model. Its certainly arguable its a more difficult model to get a hold on when to buy and annoying, but if played right, it is possible to get tickets for cheaper then previous system when prices were fixed till event. Quote
Pagoda Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM Posted yesterday at 12:04 AM 25 minutes ago, Aaron said: I'm going to slightly disagree here. While on the surface the prices are absurd, the market will decide if that is to high. With dynamic pricing on everything, if they don't sell at that price they will come down (this goes for primary and secondary market). Teams and venues always start at the highest prize and bring it down if no one bites. To me UNC and Syracuse games in Indy are to high right now and few tickets have sold. If they continue to move at slow pace price will come down. Its why one cant jump at tickets anymore the moment they are released and have to evaluate if prices will likely go up or down closer to time based on demand. I put in for Kentucky basketball tickets and IU football season tickets already at $100 and $500 respectively since I don't see it getting any lower. However, UNC and Syracuse are overpriced right now with plenty of tickets available so I am waiting it out. Key is not jumping anymore as soon as tickets are released and evaluating if they will likely go up or down closer to time. Its a bit of a guessing game but one has to use best judgement and jumping on every ticket as soon as they are released is worse thing one can do with current model. Its certainly arguable its a more difficult model to get a hold on when to buy and annoying, but if played right, it is possible to get tickets for cheaper then previous system when prices were fixed till event. I didn’t know IU is going to dynamically price now. I guess that helps some. Last year with Baylor they had like 1,500 people there. And since so few people bought tickets there basically wasn’t a secondary market. These tickets just seem so mispriced. I’m pretty sure lower prices would result in enough volume gains the total revenue would be higher. Anyways, just an observation. The IU athletic dept is a mystery to me sometimes. Quote
jermhoosierfan Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 13 hours ago, Pagoda said: I didn’t know IU is going to dynamically price now. I guess that helps some. Last year with Baylor they had like 1,500 people there. And since so few people bought tickets there basically wasn’t a secondary market. These tickets just seem so mispriced. I’m pretty sure lower prices would result in enough volume gains the total revenue would be higher. Anyways, just an observation. The IU athletic dept is a mystery to me sometimes. The Ford Center has a max capacity for basketball from 9200 to 10k, so I can actually see the place selling out just because of the fan base around here. It is a 90 minute drive to Bloomington to Evansville now with I69, but a lot of fans jump at the chance to see the team here. I just don't want to pay $100 a ticket when it should be around $40 for an exhibition game. Quote
Aaron Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 15 hours ago, Pagoda said: I didn’t know IU is going to dynamically price now. I guess that helps some. Last year with Baylor they had like 1,500 people there. And since so few people bought tickets there basically wasn’t a secondary market. These tickets just seem so mispriced. I’m pretty sure lower prices would result in enough volume gains the total revenue would be higher. Anyways, just an observation. The IU athletic dept is a mystery to me sometimes. The athletic department held out longer than anyone with dynamic pricing on basketball tickets and it only went to that last year. They bowed to reality of what everyone else was doing 5-10 yrs later so in a way they left old way in as long as they could. I got tickets for $25 in club level day off for Baylor. Same tickets started over $100 when released. Just have to be patient and both UNC and Syracuse games will likely come down if one waits it out. I certainly agree with the annoyingness of this model everywhere uses now. The key is not to jump on a price the second tickets are released and treat it as the final cost as they are likely to come down if they seem to high. Its all about evaluating in the moment if value seems right and if not waiting it out. Whether we like it or not, athletic departments have to squeeze as much money as possible out of fans now with rev sharing to remain competitive. If they don't, they will not compete in this environment. They have to rely on a few fans to pay the overpriced amount upon release to meet budget and then the smart ones will get a better rate with patience. Its all about knowing how to work within the current system with tickets and then a fair price will be paid. Its why I am hesitant to buy season tickets anymore unless I am sure they will have high value like football right now. Pagoda 1 Quote
Pagoda Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 38 minutes ago, Aaron said: The athletic department held out longer than anyone with dynamic pricing on basketball tickets and it only went to that last year. They bowed to reality of what everyone else was doing 5-10 yrs later so in a way they left old way in as long as they could. I got tickets for $25 in club level day off for Baylor. Same tickets started over $100 when released. Just have to be patient and both UNC and Syracuse games will likely come down if one waits it out. I certainly agree with the annoyingness of this model everywhere uses now. They key is not to jump on a price the second tickets are released and treat that as the final cost as they are likely to come down if they seem to high. Its all about evaluating in the moment if value seems right and if not waiting it out. Ah, I see what happened, thanks. I missed this last minute price change with the Baylor game and I thought I was paying attention! I agree with your advice -- it's spot on. Though when it comes to what IU is doing I still don't get it. Expecting the typical IU fan to watch Ticketmaster day of the game for a dynamic pricing change just ain't gonna work. I'd guess 98% of fans don't know a significant price drop could be coming. And people need to plan ahead to go to a game... which usually entails buying tickets well in advance. I expect the exhibition crowds will continue to be very sparse this year. Quote
Aaron Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 2 hours ago, Pagoda said: Ah, I see what happened, thanks. I missed this last minute price change with the Baylor game and I thought I was paying attention! I agree with your advice -- it's spot on. Though when it comes to what IU is doing I still don't get it. Expecting the typical IU fan to watch Ticketmaster day of the game for a dynamic pricing change just ain't gonna work. I'd guess 98% of fans don't know a significant price drop could be coming. And people need to plan ahead to go to a game... which usually entails buying tickets well in advance. I expect the exhibition crowds will continue to be very sparse this year. Don't disagree that it def causes uneducated people to pay way more than needed by jumping when tickets come out without thinking if they are likely to go up or down closer to game. Reality though is 99% of teams have been using this exact dynamic pricing model for a decade and IU was one of very last hold outs till last year. For people who don't want to check everyday, one can set their smart phone for Ticketmaster or whatever secondary app being used to ping an alert as soon as prices drop for a specific game tickets are wanted for. New system every place uses is def less user friendly (especially for non-tech savvy people), but can lead to getting much cheaper tickets later when hand is played right and its the model we have that every single entertainment event has gone to. Its also very possible to decide you are going to an event and mark it into your plans and buy the actual tickets whenever price seems right whether day of, at release, or in between. I don't disagree its an annoying guessing game and many have had a hard time adapting. However, since its the new reality, best thing to do is work within it for when to purchase and never treat a high price as final amount one will have to pay unless its a premium event. Quote
jermhoosierfan Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago On 6/22/2026 at 10:16 AM, Hovadipo said: Just an exhibition, but my God they will play a game anywhere but Assembly Hall. I am in the Ticketmaster site for the Evansville game. The level 200 seats start at $42 to $54. The lower level seats start at $64 which are on the ends to $230 and are behind the bench in the first couple of rows. There are floor seats across the benches that are $500 a piece. If anything, I might do the $64 behind a basket. Quote
Aaron Posted 14 hours ago Posted 14 hours ago 14 minutes ago, jermhoosierfan said: I am in the Ticketmaster site for the Evansville game. The level 200 seats start at $42 to $54. The lower level seats start at $64 which are on the ends to $230 and are behind the bench in the first couple of rows. There are floor seats across the benches that are $500 a piece. If anything, I might do the $64 behind a basket. That is not a fixed price though (see above) and this one could genuinely go higher or lower with novelty of Evansville game. Primary and secondary markets operate same and change prices based on demand. Quote
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