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2 hours ago, Alford Bailey said:

Crazy that Purdue was a preseason #1. Obviously not near that level. Then get a 2 seed after finishing 6th in conference with 7 losses. Way overrated the whole season.

They were top 10 in Kenpom and going into the tourney had surpassed Illinois as the top offense in the country. They made the elite 8 which is essentially where a 2 seed should lose.  
 

I guess I don’t see the problem. 

Posted
34 minutes ago, str8baller said:

They were top 10 in Kenpom and going into the tourney had surpassed Illinois as the top offense in the country. They made the elite 8 which is essentially where a 2 seed should lose.  
 

I guess I don’t see the problem. 

They definitely earned a 2 seed.   Whole season matters and they smashed Texas Tech on a neutral court and won at Bama in the non con.  Won at Iowa, Wisky and Nebraska in conference.  Then won 3 games in the conference tourney over ucla, Nebraska and Michigan.  They earned their seed 

Posted
16 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They definitely earned a 2 seed.   Whole season matters and they smashed Texas Tech on a neutral court and won at Bama in the non con.  Won at Iowa, Wisky and Nebraska in conference.  Then won 3 games in the conference tourney over ucla, Nebraska and Michigan.  They earned their seed 

I get the conference tournament run, but I also recall a lot of bracketologists citing the tournaments as being overvalued. For me it was Purdue closing the regular season 6-7 with those non-con wins being in the front end of the season. That end of season trend wasn't a 2 seed to me unless people suddenly highly valued conference tournament output. I felt they earned a seed up, but should have been from a 4 to a 3. They got the benefit of recency bias, Braden Smith being a record-setting PG, and Matt Painter.

Posted
2 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

That end of season trend wasn't a 2 seed to me unless people suddenly highly valued conference tournament output. I felt they earned a seed up, but should have been from a 4 to a 3.

They preach every game matters.  History showed they haven’t valued the late games in conference tourneys but they preach they do.  In this instance they valued every game.   I changed my seed for them from a 3 to 2 after they won the BTT. Just felt beating Michigan on a neutral court alone was worth the bump.   They did lose 7 however most of those were to high ended tourney teams.  I would of been fine with a 3 seed however if you are taking the overall body of work approach then their resume was 2 seed worthy in my opinion 

Posted
1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

They preach every game matters.  History showed they haven’t valued the late games in conference tourneys but they preach they do.  In this instance they valued every game.   I changed my seed for them from a 3 to 2 after they won the BTT. Just felt beating Michigan on a neutral court alone was worth the bump.   They did lose 7 however most of those were to high ended tourney teams.  I would of been fine with a 3 seed however if you are taking the overall body of work approach then their resume was 2 seed worthy in my opinion 

True about their 7 losses. I could see it going either way. Let's average it out to a 2.5 seed that never really mattered because Arizona is a wagon and the officials let TKR play football all the way to that game lol.

Posted
8 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

I get the conference tournament run, but I also recall a lot of bracketologists citing the tournaments as being overvalued. For me it was Purdue closing the regular season 6-7 with those non-con wins being in the front end of the season. That end of season trend wasn't a 2 seed to me unless people suddenly highly valued conference tournament output. I felt they earned a seed up, but should have been from a 4 to a 3. They got the benefit of recency bias, Braden Smith being a record-setting PG, and Matt Painter.

 

8 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

I get the conference tournament run, but I also recall a lot of bracketologists citing the tournaments as being overvalued. For me it was Purdue closing the regular season 6-7 with those non-con wins being in the front end of the season. That end of season trend wasn't a 2 seed to me unless people suddenly highly valued conference tournament output. I felt they earned a seed up, but should have been from a 4 to a 3. They got the benefit of recency bias, Braden Smith being a record-setting PG, and Matt Painter.

Seeded above every team that finished ahead of them in conference with the exception of Michigan 

Posted
5 minutes ago, Alford Bailey said:

 

Seeded above every team that finished ahead of them in conference with the exception of Michigan 

They beat Nebraska twice even though they finished behind them in the standings. I get people being upset with their seed while they finished below certain teams in conference but their overall resume was better when the team sheets were compared. 

Posted
9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They beat Nebraska twice even though they finished behind them in the standings. I get people being upset with their seed while they finished below certain teams in conference but their overall resume was better when the team sheets were compared. 

Nebraska I understand I’m looking more at MSU and Illinois. Lost to both at home and finished below both in conference. Wonder how often that has happened the team received the higher seed.

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