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[NatHillIV]

I am rapidly losing interest and hope for women's college basketball in general, and IU in particular.
I heard Caffey on a radio show.  She was either lying through her teeth then, a sharp agent has gotten a hold of her lately, or her so-called friends have convinced her now she can do better somewhere else.
On another note, Lilly Meister and Kansas just lost in the semi-final of the WBIT.  Lilly had 12 points and 9 rebounds.  But I suspect Lilly had fun playing for Kansas this year.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Seems like a lot of bad off-season in a row for IUWBB.  Moren must be exhausted by it.  It’s every single year.  She praised Caffey all season long and rewarded her with so much PT for it to end like this.  Very disappointing.  

[TTT]

It used to be that players wanted playing time opportunities…Put me in coach.  Now, they don’t want to play.   It’s Pay me coach.  Playing time X dollars per hour. 
Whoever thought of NIL even though I knew it would end up like this has about as much sense as Miles Brand and his band of merry buddies.

[TheWatShot]

Wasn't a popular opinion during the season, but I think the Teri Moren era is over. 

[Stuhoo]

13 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Holy crap!  What the hell's going on?

Oof - death blow maybe?

[CSP]

9 hours ago, TheWatShot said:

Wasn't a popular opinion during the season, but I think the Teri Moren era is over. 

68% winning pct at Indiana... she's responsible for what? 8 of our best... 12 seasons ever? Probably better than that, honestly. 

 

[CSP]

11 hours ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

The main iuwbb person on peegs said they heard Caffey asked for north of 500K. When she was already getting a raise of 150k ish. Said a lot of ncaaw players will be asking for more because of the new wnba deal. this is me paraphrasing. 
 

she was someone who did 0 personal nil deals while Spreen made over 100k doing them.

That's laughable she thinks she's worth that. 

Louis Moore made what? 400K this year?

Can we dump Title IX?

[mamasa]

Caffey simply is not good enough (yet) to demand that kind of money. 

[TheWatShot]

32 minutes ago, CSP said:

68% winning pct at Indiana... she's responsible for what? 8 of our best... 12 seasons ever? Probably better than that, honestly. 

 

Not disputing her results...just feels like it's over. Program has very little momentum right now. 

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Not disputing her results...just feels like it's over. Program has very little momentum right now. 

 

That seems like a very confusing feeling to me.  "very little momentum" as we bring in, EASILY, on paper, the best recruiting class we've ever had... including the programs first MCDAA?

[CSP]

27 minutes ago, mamasa said:

Caffey simply is not good enough (yet) to demand that kind of money. 

Ehh... there are very few women's CBB players worth that money, if we're being honest. 

[IUHoosierJoe]

11 minutes ago, CSP said:

 

That seems like a very confusing feeling to me.  "very little momentum" as we bring in, EASILY, on paper, the best recruiting class we've ever had... including the programs first MCDAA?

I'm confused too.  I thought "no juice" was the cool new phrase.

[TTT]

T. Moren at least publicly and backed it up by letting players play through there mistakes and development both, Garzon and Caffey (saying Caffey could be one of the best ever T. Moren said about Caffey publicly and Caffey a freshman….and what does T. Moren get for trying to be there for the freshman in return……
The opposite of thus far, Makalusky who was challenged and got playing time at a slower pace.  (the snowball effect if Bargesser could have stayed maybe Caffey would have not played quite as much out of necessity and would not be demanding the money…a 94 4 star good but not great. Caffey is not going to do that well at another major program because like Garzon T. Moren took care of Caffey….treating both of them like her own kids (sort of).  

What are these players getting in NiL.  Do the top programs just say ok and payout??

Like Garzon, Caffey just lowered her chances of wnba if that’s a goal of her’s and I can’t see anyone paying her 500,000 Lol….maybe, a desired location or a little more money like a dollar or two more.  

If Caffey was to go to a so called power house program she will come off the bench and risks the chance to eventually be relegated to the bench.  Deservedly.

[TTT]

I hate Ladies college and professional basketball.

[ronzo4IU]

13 hours ago, TTT said:

It’s all about the money.  Can’t blame them one bit.  Isn’t that what you go to college for…to make a good/best living possible?  
 But remember the love is fake.  

The testing waters…then you have a school bidding on a player purposely driving a price up with maybe lack of intention to buy that to make the player’s original school to bid higher to keep her….to drain that school’s resources to affect a decision on buying another player.

 It would be great if all of it would just get shut down. Just get nothing or do away with the sport.  Or just buy a team from China or somewhere.  No fun anymore.   And IU football won a National Championship and now the sky is falling.

Why not just have a salary cap?

[TTT]

6 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Why not just have a salary cap?

And make it small for both, men and Ladies…but at least much smaller.  However, I think that might be manageable if it was in-forced by NCAA police.  But we know how consistent they do that…thus even like before or now can create another slippery…very slick slope.

Just a bunch of un-integrity  in all of it.

[Stuhoo]

21 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Why not just have a salary cap?

 

16 minutes ago, TTT said:

And make it small for both, men and Ladies…but at least much smaller.  However, I think that might be manageable if it was in-forced by NCAA police.  But we know how consistent they do that…thus even like before or now can create another slippery…very slick slope.

Just a bunch of un-integrity  in all of it.

There is already a salary cap... $0.00.

NIL is not salary, and the courts have ruled that non-university, non-salary payments are part of a free market economy for one and all, even if they are college athletes.

[mickey one]

4 hours ago, CSP said:

That's laughable she thinks she's worth that. 

Louis Moore made what? 400K this year?

Can we dump Title IX?

 

4 hours ago, CSP said:

That's laughable she thinks she's worth that. 

Louis Moore made what? 400K this year?

Can we dump Title IX?

Don't know if it's true, but indications are KK Arnold from UConn (starter on national championship team; defensive stopper) is getting like $150,000. How could Caffey be worth more than that?

[ronzo4IU]

59 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

 

There is already a salary cap... $0.00.

NIL is not salary, and the courts have ruled that non-university, non-salary payments are part of a free market economy for one and all, even if they are college athletes.

Well....that sucks.  A parsing of words I guess,  and like TTT said above, even if there was a level playing field in place cheaters would cheat to get the upper hand. 

Only way I can see it is if all payments made to college athletes would have to be made public and all salaries on roster could not exceed 5 mil or whatever.  I'm sure there is always loop holes though.

[mickey one]

1 hour ago, ronzo4IU said:

Why not just have a salary cap?

I agree that is what is needed now + structured contracts for multiple years. In the pro's, not everyone is a free agent every year (the essence of the portal). That would be chaos . . . . which we are beginning to see at IU and elsewhere.