How is Darian DeVries Doing So Far?

[Josh]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

Hurley was figuring things out in year 3. He didn’t have the players in the first 2 years or didn’t have the culture but you could see glimpses of it and even with them losing in the first round against New Mexico St you could see that he was on the verge of putting it together.  Just sucks he is a.. because he is a really good coach 

That's what I'm trying to say.  While you could see glimpses of his greatness, you see Devries teams struggling to hustle.  Or chucking up bad shots.  Or dribbling themselves into trouble.  It just doesn't seem like smart basketball to me.

Do you see glimpses of greatness in this IU season?

[8bucks]

24 minutes ago, BGleas said:

Not that KenPom is the end all, be all. But, UConn was 98th in a way weaker conference (still in the AAC) in Hurley's first season.

DeVries has IU 35th and at least at this point positioned to make the tournament. 

 

Thanks, this is a good thing to keep in mind. Louisville was 28 at the end of last year and seemed a better team than us now, but I do like how we are competing now.  I knew we had holes in the roster and hoped we would make up for some of that by playing hard. Early on I did not see that and joined in the criticism but it is there now. Even if we win ugly, it is a win. 

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

That's what I'm trying to say.  While you could see glimpses of his greatness, you see Devries teams struggling to hustle.  Or chucking up bad shots.  Or dribbling themselves into trouble.  It just doesn't seem like smart basketball to me.

Do you see glimpses of greatness in this IU season?

Glimpses in year 3 not year 1 when Hurley went 16-17.   Remember the IU/Uconn game that IU won during Archie’s year? That game was terrible for both teams but someone had to win it. 
not sure about greatness yet in year 1 but I’ve seen some ofcoaches out of bounds plays that have scored some really nice baskets.   Too early for me to go all in or all out 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, str8baller said:

You should go back to the fire Woody thread and continue your defense of him since you were the last man standing there. Your takes and basketball knowledge are continually some of the poorest on this board. Proven many times over. 
 

 

But for everyone else…Yes, having a first team All American transfer in was a big reason Hurleys team went from decent to championship level. That’s obvious to most, but for you…

 

Tristen Newton was on the first title team and their 4th or 5th option on offense. He was a great player for them but nowhere close to being the only reason they won the national title that year. Dan Hurley had transfers on each of his first four teams that didn’t win a single tournament game. Dan Hurley took off at UConn when he hired Luke Murray to run his offense. Their efficiency before and after he was hired is staggering. 

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Josh said:

That's what I'm trying to say.  While you could see glimpses of his greatness, you see Devries teams struggling to hustle.  Or chucking up bad shots.  Or dribbling themselves into trouble.  It just doesn't seem like smart basketball to me.

Do you see glimpses of greatness in this IU season?

Did you see that in Hurley when he went 16-17 in the American Conference during his first year? Or the year after when they also missed the tournament? 

[AH1971]

6 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

Thanks, this is a good thing to keep in mind. Louisville was 28 at the end of last year and seemed a better team than us now, but I do like how we are competing now.  I knew we had holes in the roster and hoped we would make up for some of that by playing hard. Early on I did not see that and joined in the criticism but it is there now. Even if we win ugly, it is a win. 

We’d have a lot better record if we played in last years ACC. Louisville was a paper tiger last year.

[Josh]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Tristen Newton was on the first title team and their 4th or 5th option on offense. He was a great player for them but nowhere close to being the only reason they won the national title that year. Dan Hurley had transfers on each of his first four teams that didn’t win a single tournament game. Dan Hurley took off at UConn when he hired Luke Murray to run his offense. Their efficiency before and after he was hired is staggering. 

Haha your deflecting is next level.  You glaze Hurley obviously, do you see all that in Woodson and Devries?

[Uspshoosier]

Just now, AH1971 said:

We’d have a lot better record if we played in last years ACC. Louisville was a paper tiger last year.

They went 18-2 in the ACC and got a 9 seed.   Acc was terrible last year 

[AH1971]

Just now, Josh said:

Haha your deflecting is next level.  You glaze Hurley obviously, do you see all that in Woodson and Devries?

I watched in person as a bad IU team coached by Archie Miller beat a bad Dan Hurley team in Madison Square Garden. DeVries has looked far more impressive in year 1 at IU than Dan Hurley did in year 1 at UConn. 
 

Will DeVries become the next Dan Hurley? No clue. Dan Hurley wouldn’t have become Dan Hurley if he was fired 20 games into his first season. That I do know.

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They went 18-2 in the ACC and got a 9 seed.   Acc was terrible last year 

Right. Hence my paper tiger comment. IU would be much better than 16-8 if they had Louisville’s schedule.

[Uspshoosier]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Right

Yeah I was just providing stats 

[Hoosierfan2017]

1 hour ago, AH1971 said:

Low standards? Rich coming from a guy who probably wasn’t alive the last time IU won a national title.

All of us here were alive a few weeks ago!! 

[Josh]

20 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I watched in person as a bad IU team coached by Archie Miller beat a bad Dan Hurley team in Madison Square Garden. DeVries has looked far more impressive in year 1 at IU than Dan Hurley did in year 1 at UConn. 
 

Will DeVries become the next Dan Hurley? No clue. Dan Hurley wouldn’t have become Dan Hurley if he was fired 20 games into his first season. That I do know.

Can you imagine if we fired Archie Miller in year one?  He never would have become Dan Hurley

[Brass Cannon]

15 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Yeah I was just providing stats 

 

[Hoosierfan2017]

Woodson was an *** and his players were openly combative with the fans. Archie ball was miserable. Crean’s last season was miserable. It’s been a decade really since I’ve actually enjoyed watching IU basketball. 

Idk if Devries is the guy or not. Time will tell. But I like him. He’s a normal guy. I think he’s good enough that he can at least get us back to making the tournament every year if he can land adequate talent.  I like the guys on the team. They’re all easy to root for. I’ve actually had fun watching the last few games. It feels good, it feels good hearing a loud Assembly Hall, it feels good seeing the players interact with the fans.

We won’t ever get back to where we were in all likelihood, but hey I wasn’t alive for that anyway. Just making the dance most of the time would still be better than what my IU fandom has been. 

[Brass Cannon]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woodson was an *** and his players were openly combative with the fans. Archie ball was miserable. Crean’s last season was miserable. It’s been a decade really since I’ve actually enjoyed watching IU basketball. 

Idk if Devries is the guy or not. Time will tell. But I like him. He’s a normal guy. I think he’s good enough that he can at least get us back to making the tournament every year if he can land adequate talent.  I like the guys on the team. They’re all easy to root for. I’ve actually had fun watching the last few games. It feels good, it feels good hearing a loud Assembly Hall, it feels good seeing the players interact with the fans.

We won’t ever get back to where we were in all likelihood, but hey I wasn’t alive for that anyway. Just making the dance most of the time would still be better than what my IU fandom has been. 

I wish I could find the post but somebody I think Wayne summed up exactly why we should be successful in the NIL era 

We just won a NC in football.  Now we needed one of the greatest coaching hires ever to do it. But the same things that cig used the successful can be orchestrated by the right coach here. Will we be good enough to win 3 in 11 years. Probably not. But would love to get back to a team where the opposing teams view us as a loss in assembly hall and a battle when we go to their place. 

[Stuhoo]

54 minutes ago, Josh said:

That's what I'm trying to say.  While you could see glimpses of his greatness, you see Devries teams struggling to hustle.  Or chucking up bad shots.  Or dribbling themselves into trouble.  It just doesn't seem like smart basketball to me.

Do you see glimpses of greatness in this IU season?

I have no idea about glimpses of greatness, but

I seldom see this year’s IU team dribbling into trouble (it’s almost always Bailey, who is no longer a starter), I see less and less chucking up bad shots (it’s mainly Lamar, who takes a ton of good shots also), and for over a month now I have NEVER, even in losses, seen this team fail to hustle/play hard.

 

[Golfman25]

52 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Tristen Newton was on the first title team and their 4th or 5th option on offense. He was a great player for them but nowhere close to being the only reason they won the national title that year. Dan Hurley had transfers on each of his first four teams that didn’t win a single tournament game. Dan Hurley took off at UConn when he hired Luke Murray to run his offense. Their efficiency before and after he was hired is staggering. 

Are you just admitting it only takes a good coach one year?   

[Josh]

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

I have no idea about glimpses of greatness, but

I seldom see this year’s IU team dribbling into trouble (it’s almost always Bailey, who is no longer a starter), I see less and less chucking up bad shots (it’s mainly Lamar, who takes a ton of good shots also), and for over a month now I have NEVER, even in losses, seen this team fail to hustle/play hard.

 

What do you see?  Dan Hurley Junior?

[Stuhoo]

19 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woodson was an *** and his players were openly combative with the fans. Archie ball was miserable. Crean’s last season was miserable. It’s been a decade really since I’ve actually enjoyed watching IU basketball. 

Idk if Devries is the guy or not. Time will tell. But I like him. He’s a normal guy. I think he’s good enough that he can at least get us back to making the tournament every year if he can land adequate talent.  I like the guys on the team. They’re all easy to root for. I’ve actually had fun watching the last few games. It feels good, it feels good hearing a loud Assembly Hall, it feels good seeing the players interact with the fans.

We won’t ever get back to where we were in all likelihood, but hey I wasn’t alive for that anyway. Just making the dance most of the time would still be better than what my IU fandom has been. 

^This^ 

Football is successful beyond our wildest dreams. So, while it would be epic to also have a top ten basketball team, if instead we have a team that is reasonably successful, is easy to root for with  great kids like Lamar, Enright, Sisley, and Alexis, and always plays their ***** off like this team is doing?

I am a combination of thrilled and completely, unequivocally satisfied.