Fire Darian DeVries? Lol

[Golfman25]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Way back in the day.   The  team and program you are invested in now hasn’t finished the B1G regular season with back to back winning conference records since the Crean years.  

Right, but nothing wrong with trying to get back to the "good old days."  

I listened to Goodman tell a story when he first met Coach Cig.  Goodman was telling him that if he started the season 3-2 after the first five game he would be a hero at IU.  He said Cig gave him the devil's eye and said no freaking way am I going 3-2.  That's what we want -- guys who refuse to lose.  

[Golfman25]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

 It really all depends on the recruit and what they want.   Wilkerson chose IU over Kentucky.  Ohio State hasn’t made the tourney in 3 years and they got Thompson a 5 star kid to sign.  My opinion only but most recruits think they will be the reason to turn things around.  

I don't want recruits who "think" they will turn things around.  I want guys who know they will and will run thru walls to get the job done.  I can guarantee Cig's pitch isn't "you'll be able to turn IU around."  :)  

[WayneFleekHoosier]

People saying the fanbase sucks is always going to stir emotions.  
 

The fanbase as a whole is tremendous and everyone knows that.  
 

Basketball has been starving for 30 years and haven’t given the fans any return on investment, but still want all the perks of being a program that fills the stadium and roots them on.   
 

Its a 2 way street.  For those saying the fanbase sucks, the fanbase can say the basketball team has sucked.  The cure for all of this, has always been winning.  Winning enough to make the fans proud.  
 

The football team has totally overachieved of course, but that’s the same fanbase.  The exact same fanbase.  
 

Get a coach and basketball team that wins at near top level and unlock that fanbase mojo that is starving for a winner.  
 

[Brass Cannon]

20 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

People saying the fanbase sucks is always going to stir emotions.  
 

The fanbase as a whole is tremendous and everyone knows that.  
 

Basketball has been starving for 30 years and haven’t given the fans any return on investment, but still want all the perks of being a program that fills the stadium and roots them on.   
 

Its a 2 way street.  For those saying the fanbase sucks, the fanbase can say the basketball team has sucked.  The cure for all of this, has always been winning.  Winning enough to make the fans proud.  
 

The football team has totally overachieved of course, but that’s the same fanbase.  The exact same fanbase.  
 

Get a coach and basketball team that wins at near top level and unlock that fanbase mojo that is starving for a winner.  
 

Yep.  The insanity that this fanbase would have even from a sweet sixteen would be incredible.  The same donors that made Cig one of the top paid coaches after losing to ND his first year would be lining up to help DeVries sign a starter of his choice in the portal. 
 

[Magnanimous]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

Right, but nothing wrong with trying to get back to the "good old days."  

I listened to Goodman tell a story when he first met Coach Cig.  Goodman was telling him that if he started the season 3-2 after the first five game he would be a hero at IU.  He said Cig gave him the devil's eye and said no freaking way am I going 3-2.  That's what we want -- guys who refuse to lose.  

3-2…27-2…what’s the difference.

Btw, there’s now a sizeable part of my brain that thinks Cig was referring to championships when saying “no freaking way am I going 3-2.”

[AZ Hoosier]

Yea or nay?

[Brass Cannon]

4 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Yea or nay?

Maybe?  But he constructed the roster so if so that’s a big miss

[AZ Hoosier]

10 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

Maybe?  But he constructed the roster so if so that’s a big miss

To be fair to CDDV, he had a rough go putting his staff together, and then had a bit of a struggle building that roster, as well. Let's see what this off season brings before we rush to judgment.

[Josh]

37 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Yea or nay?

This is like word for word what the pumpers said about Archie Miller in his first couple years

[AZ Hoosier]

14 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is like word for word what the pumpers said about Archie Miller in his first couple years

Feel free to post a quote from the timeframe...

Keep hatin', bro. Don't ever change. /s

[Stuhoo]

16 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is like word for word what the pumpers said about Archie Miller in his first couple years

 

2 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Feel free to post a quote from the timeframe...

Keep hatin', bro. Don't ever change. /s

Hey AZ; you know what is likely more common from Archie’s first year? Lots and lots of posters said “It’s too early to tell” and were thereafter labeled sunshine pumpers.

Same thing that many said during Todd Golden and Hurley’s terrible first year. And the same thing many concluded during Woodson’s first season.

[Josh]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Feel free to post a quote from the timeframe...

Keep hatin', bro. Don't ever change. /s

 

1 minute ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Hey AZ; you know what is likely more common from Archie’s first year? Lots and lots of posters said “It’s too early to tell” and were thereafter labeled sunshine pumpers.

Same thing that many said during Todd Golden and Hurley’s terrible first year. And the same thing many concluded during Woodson’s first season.

You two not remembering doesn't mean it didn't happen.  In fact, Stuhoo was one of them that said it.

[AZ Hoosier]

Just now, Josh said:

 

You two not remembering doesn't mean it didn't happen.  In fact, Stuhoo was one of them that said it.

Still waiting for the sample post quote...

[Josh]

6 minutes ago, AZ Hoosier said:

Still waiting for the sample post quote...

Are you seriously saying it never happened?  Wow bro.  Get a better memory, I can't be your brain for you

[WayneFleekHoosier]

Lots of people said and believed Archie’s defense takes 3 or 4 years to install.  People wanted to believe.  I don’t hate that but this argument was always a bit funny too me. 

[AZ Hoosier]

2 minutes ago, Josh said:

Are you seriously saying it never happened?  Wow bro.  Get a better memory, I can't be your brain for you

Never said that... just asked you to back up your statement... it's OK if you can't.

[Home Jersey]

Only time will tell.

Some will wet the bed while we wait and others will be "true fans" ... but we will find out, because he's not going anywhere for at least three or four years. Why does this thread exist again? Oh yeah, bed wetting. Lol 

[Banksyrules]

52 minutes ago, Josh said:

This is like word for word what the pumpers said about Archie Miller in his first couple years

It’s his first year. As a person who started the Fire Woodson thread and jumped at firing Archie after year three , even I know it’s not fair to discard a coach trying adjust to a new atmosphere.
 

I worked for UNC while we hired Roy Williams and believe me it even took him a little bit to get settled. It’s just not fair. 
 

I understand that not winning a title since 87 gets us a bit antsy but we have to be patient 

[Brass Cannon]

2 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

It’s his first year. As a person who started the Fire Woodson thread and jumped at firing Archie after year three , even I know it’s not fair to discard a coach trying adjust to a new atmosphere.
 

I worked for UNC while we hired Roy Williams and believe me it even took him a little bit to get settled. It’s just not fair. 
 

I understand that not winning a title since 87 gets us a bit antsy but we have to be patient 

I get why it got made we were taking alot of Ls for a bit.  
 

Roster construction L

OoC schedule L

Conference Games L

 

But we have a nice little streak going now. We have gotten to the ebb and not just the flow of winning and losing.  
 

All I want from Coach is making the tourney and build a more solid/complete roster next year.  We lose a lot of pieces from this team

[Stuhoo]

53 minutes ago, Josh said:

 

You two not remembering doesn't mean it didn't happen.  In fact, Stuhoo was one of them that said it.

If hoping for the best and saying it out loud is wrong, I don’t wanna be right!