Fire Darian DeVries? Lol

[Golfman25]

11 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

You feel confident saying DDV is a crap coach? Based solely on 19 games at Indiana? 

I don't really know.  But what I do know is several dorks on an interweb forum had concerns about the lack of size at the 5.  :)    Did DDV?   

[Home Jersey]

1 minute ago, Golfman25 said:

I don't really know.  But what I do know is several dorks on an interweb forum had concerns about the lack of size at the 5.  :)    Did DDV?   

Idk, probably. Things don't always go perfectly according to plan. Oh well. Better luck next time. 

[Kentuckysucks]

2 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

I don't really know.  But what I do know is several dorks on an interweb forum had concerns about the lack of size at the 5.  :)    Did DDV?   

Nail hits head.  It's not the fact that we're losing it is why we are losing.  Everyone knew this was poorly constructed roster at the time.  We all knew you need size in the B1G to have a chance and called it out at the time.  Everyone except Darian DeVries of course. It was a catastrophic mistake and one that will be very difficult for him to recover from.

You could build an Indiana basketball roster through the portal 100 times and this shouldn't happen once.  But DD thought you could play small ball in the B1G and win.  He was dead wrong and he's the one getting paid $5M a year.  Inexcusable. 

[Golfman25]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Idk, probably. Things don't always go perfectly according to plan. Oh well. Better luck next time. 

Pretty much the story of IU basketball for 20+ years.  :)  

[ronzo4IU]

1 hour ago, Home Jersey said:

Cig is 1 of 1. 

 

IU basketball is really not in the national spotlight and hasn't been since Zeller basically IMO. All the talk about this program being on life support is just dramatics from us hardcore fans. We're not relevant in the national conversation and haven't been for some time. The IUBB we all picture in our heads is dead. There's no urgency to save it because it's dead and buried. A new iteration needs to eventually take its place. 

True, but the IU brand is nothing to sneeze at ;)

[ronzo4IU]

9 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Nail hits head.  It's not the fact that we're losing it is why we are losing.  Everyone knew this was poorly constructed roster at the time.  We all knew you need size in the B1G to have a chance and called it out at the time.  Everyone except Darian DeVries of course. It was a catastrophic mistake and one that will be very difficult for him to recover from.

You could build an Indiana basketball roster through the portal 100 times and this shouldn't happen once.  But DD thought you could play small ball in the B1G and win.  He was dead wrong and he's the one getting paid $5M a year.  Inexcusable. 

Did he think he could win playing small ball or was this all he could get?

[Kentuckysucks]

6 minutes ago, ronzo4IU said:

Did he think he could win playing small ball or was this all he could get?

He thought he could get away with it because he brought in shooters.  

[ronzo4IU]

Just now, Kentuckysucks said:

He thought he could get away with it because he brought in shooters.  

Yes, I get that, but I also remember him striking out on some bigs like the one from TT but I can't remember all who they were.

[WayneFleekHoosier]

1 hour ago, Golfman25 said:

I don't really know.  But what I do know is several dorks on an interweb forum had concerns about the lack of size at the 5.  :)    Did DDV?   

I resent this remark. lol. 
 

I also was concerned about Enright being a regular player. And the North Florida kids never having won a thing. Big depth.  Didn’t like Alexis as a primary guy either. Our athleticism. 
 

I had this roster pegged.  
 

I like(d) Wilkerson and Conerway, and thought Tucker would be better.  I thought Bailey would be interesting if he could have been Cody Zeller-lite.  Push in transition and use his speed to beat opposing 4/5s in transition.  I knew he would be a huge concern defensively, but I thought he’d be better offensively and we’d use him more creatively.  Didn’t know he’d have the weakest grip strength of any basketball player I’ve ever watched.  

[Golfman25]

18 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

I resent this remark. lol. 
 

 

Resent or resemble?  :)  

[Golfman25]

1 hour ago, ronzo4IU said:

Did he think he could win playing small ball or was this all he could get?

Either way, it's a sign of a problem, no?  

[ronzo4IU]

14 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Either way, it's a sign of a problem, no?  

Yes, but I would feel a little better knowing that at least he tried to get high caliber post players and not thinking he was good with what we had, especially considering how long he's been in the game..lol

[Uspshoosier]

Margin of error for teams in college basketball is small for teams.  Not much separation between lower seeded tourney teams and teams that don’t make it.  Even with a flawed roster that was put together by this staff they were right there for an at large and still could be.  4-4 in the B1G with a win over a top 10 team would of looked a heck of a lot better then 3-5 in the B1G with no big wins.   1 game can make the biggest of difference in perception.    Blowing a 16 point lead at home to Nebraska was the biggest blow to the staff and the limited roster.  The hottest AD in all of college sports now hand picked this coach.  Dolson has as much rope as any AD in the game to see if his hire will work out.  DeVries isnt going anywhere anytime soon.  Should have known early on when he was hired this would be a weird year when he couldn’t even get into his office for a week or 2 because the old coach still had the keys.   Working out of the team lounge probably wasn’t what he had envisioned when taking the job.  Here’s hoping for a killer off season after this season is over.  

[Jeff Flabjohns]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

 this season is over.  

Agree with you there ;)

[HinnyHoosier]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Margin of error for teams in college basketball is small for teams.  Not much separation between lower seeded tourney teams and teams that don’t make it.  Even with a flawed roster that was put together by this staff they were right there for an at large and still could be.  4-4 in the B1G with a win over a top 10 team would of looked a heck of a lot better then 3-5 in the B1G with no big wins.   1 game can make the biggest of difference in perception.    Blowing a 16 point lead at home to Nebraska was the biggest blow to the staff and the limited roster.  The hottest AD in all of college sports now hand picked this coach.  Dolson has as much rope as any AD in the game to see if his hire will work out.  DeVries isnt going anywhere anytime soon.  Should have known early on when he was hired this would be a weird year when he couldn’t even get into his office for a week or 2 because the old coach still had the keys.   Working out of the team lounge probably wasn’t what he had envisioned when taking the job.  Here’s hoping for a killer off season after this season is over.  

At times people act like he had unlimited options and resources when building his makeshift rebuild roster behind the stink trail of the previous coach who mismanaged things so badly every single player wanted a fresh start elsewhere. An almost literal bare cupboard at a program that has a "meh" rating from most everyone outside it. 

[Uspshoosier]

12 minutes ago, Jeff Flabjohns said:

Agree with you there ;)

I’ve seen stranger things happen.  7 Q1 opportunities and 2 Q2 opportunities left.  Unc was 1-11 in Q1 games last year and got in.  B1G is a blessing and a curse.  Go on a 3 or 4 game win streak and ever game is a good win.   Plus maybe this is the year IU wins the BTT. You never know 

[Uspshoosier]

6 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

so badly every single player wanted a fresh start elsewhere. An

Not sure they would of had to choice to come back even if they wanted to 

[HinnyHoosier]

9 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not sure they would of had to choice to come back even if they wanted to 

I'll defer to you there. I don't remember all the details regarding some of the transfers...or maybe my mind is blocking stuff out for my own protection.

[BGleas]

DeVries made several comments in the off-season saying that our 5 spot and rim protection were a concern and something they were going to need to figure out scheming around. 

It's not like hes a moron that didn't realize you need size in the Big Ten. 

With that said, that makes the next question, 'why could he and the staff recruit a legit big'?

That's the issue. How come we couldn't recruit better with our resources? That also makes me concerned for next season since we have to recruit an entire new team. 

[Uspshoosier]

4 minutes ago, HinnyHoosier said:

I'll defer to you there. I don't remember all the details regarding some of the transfers...or maybe my mind is blocking stuff out for my own protection.

Sounded like the administration wanted a full reboot when they moved on from the old coach