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Class of '66 Old Fart

IUFB vs Kennesaw State - Saturday, 09.06.25 m@ Noon on FS1

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53 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Supposed to be very hot that week. Hopefully our fans show up. I can already hear people using the heat as an excuse to not go. 

I see a high of 80*, mid-70’s at kickoff.  That game has been sold out for a long time and Big Noon will probably be here.  People know Illinois is good.  Should be a very good crowd.

Just my $0.02.

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1 hour ago, TheWatShot said:

Supposed to be very hot that week. Hopefully our fans show up. I can already hear people using the heat as an excuse to not go. 

 

27 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I see a high of 80*, mid-70’s at kickoff.  That game has been sold out for a long time and Big Noon will probably be here.  People know Illinois is good.  Should be a very good crowd.

Just my $0.02.

Figuring out the weather 2 weeks from now is a fool's game, or a farmer from 1787.

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37 minutes ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Great time today but an absolutely pathetic display in the grass lots after the game. This is only one example. What are we doing here?? 

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IMS pays local organizations to clean the grounds after the Indy 500 and the other event days leading up to it. I’ve heard it’s a pretty big money maker for the groups and provides an important service to the track. I like to think IU has something like this in place, but I’m not sure. 

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8 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

IMS pays local organizations to clean the grounds after the Indy 500 and the other event days leading up to it. I’ve heard it’s a pretty big money maker for the groups and provides an important service to the track. I like to think IU has something like this in place, but I’m not sure. 

Its called community service from the public intox arrests on Saturday night; kidding but not kidding.
Maybe with the concessions being more professional now (at least what I've heard), those groups that were trying to pull that off in the past can get money from these duties now.

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43 minutes ago, LIHoosier said:

Its called community service from the public intox arrests on Saturday night; kidding but not kidding.
Maybe with the concessions being more professional now (at least what I've heard), those groups that were trying to pull that off in the past can get money from these duties now.

I planted so many flowers on the Bloomington courthouse grounds

Good win Hoosiers!

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33 minutes ago, Hovadipo said:

IMS pays local organizations to clean the grounds after the Indy 500 and the other event days leading up to it. I’ve heard it’s a pretty big money maker for the groups and provides an important service to the track. I like to think IU has something like this in place, but I’m not sure. 

Man I hope that’s the case. The only acceptable explanation is that you’re supposed to leave a huge mess behind so some cleanup crew can generate some $$ for a good cause. Otherwise it was a pretty appalling display.

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Great time today but an absolutely pathetic display in the grass lots after the game. This is only one example. What are we doing here?? 
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Walked past that mess or one just like it. My guests and I had a similar discussion. Really shameful to make it. Worse to not in the slightest try to clean it up.

Seats were amazing. Basically behind Indiana bench. Easy competition, but felt pretty good about what we got accomplished today after the 2nd qtr lull. The Cignetti decisions leading up to halftime were confusing. Sarratt was incredible today.

Loved the energy out of #13 on defense.

Fans were ok to start and up to half. Lots of fans left early today. Stadium was very empty early in the 4th. Students were great to start and up until half. I think this straightens itself out by the Illinois game.


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14 hours ago, NashvilleHoosier said:

Great time today but an absolutely pathetic display in the grass lots after the game. This is only one example. What are we doing here?? 

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This is every game, every year, every tailgate across the country since the beginning of time. 

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ESPN's FPI model liked our 56-9 win over Kennesaw State.  Hoosiers moved up 14 spots to No. 16. 
Amazing Woodson never understood the concept of blowing out bad teams = good for metrics. 
 

We were the bad team that helped others metrics.


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I got to say, I’m a bit disappointed that we still have so many empty seats. I don’t understand why we can’t get people In the stands for a full game. Maybe it was an early game? But then again, there’s plenty of other teams that have capacity crowds at early games against lesser competition. We need to do better showing up. We have a top 5 coach in the game. Let’s go!

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42 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

I got to say, I’m a bit disappointed that we still have so many empty seats. I don’t understand why we can’t get people In the stands for a full game. Maybe it was an early game? But then again, there’s plenty of other teams that have capacity crowds at early games against lesser competition. We need to do better showing up. We have a top 5 coach in the game. Let’s go!

I assume you went to the game? 

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1 hour ago, Hoosier987 said:

I got to say, I’m a bit disappointed that we still have so many empty seats. I don’t understand why we can’t get people In the stands for a full game. Maybe it was an early game? But then again, there’s plenty of other teams that have capacity crowds at early games against lesser competition. We need to do better showing up. We have a top 5 coach in the game. Let’s go!

My view to take or leave.  Most of this will come as no surprise.

1) Generally speaking, we have almost no football culture at IU beyond tailgating.  For most fans lifetimes, we've been terrible.  Why we have been so bad would be another topic we can table for now.

As a result, our football fanbase is very small and few people have a tradition of going to home openers or games at all.  A lot of IU people I talk to still don't believe what's happening is sustainable.  They'll say it's a fluke, etc.  Everyone still mostly talks about basketball -- look at our forums.  And I'm not blaming anyone, people like what they like.

It takes time to establish a tradition.  When the Colts got good with Peyton, it took a few years to generate serious ticket demand.  In 1999, I remember 20K Titans fans in the RCA Dome for a playoff game the year we had a home bye (13-3 record!).  Message board posters are tuned in to what's happening, but a lot of regular IU fans still are not, and big crowds require getting regular IU fans involved.

2) IU increased the ticket prices pretty significantly this season.  IMO, that's fine for the conference games, but not the cupcakes.  $62 was the cheapest ticket available public ticket from IU for the non-con games.  That's just mispriced and way too high to get newcomers involved -- $124 for two or $250 for a family of four, plus parking, to see bad opponents.  Bad value.  A lot of not-really FB schools getting better cupcake attendance are pricing tickets at $20 or less or doing two for ones (ASU, Illinois, etc.).

3) I don't think we market very well or do a good job directly reaching out to alumni and potential ticket buyers and making it very easy to buy tickets.  I'll just leave it at that.

4) Some bright spots?  Season tickets are up 50%.  The conference slate is not a great one, no marquee opponents, but Illinois sold out five weeks ago and barring a collapse the rest of those games will too (MSU/ULCA are 93% sold, Wisky 87% sold).  Those are not cheap tickets either.

Also we secured a field sponsor and suite sponsor.  Corporate interest in increasing, which is great.

At the end of the day, I wish we were further along with fan support, and it does annoy me (that's a me problem admittedly).  But, when I think about it, I can see why things are the way they are.  Another good season I think we'll get another nice increase in fan interest.

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7 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

My view to take or leave.  Most of this will come as no surprise.

1) Generally speaking, we have almost no football culture at IU beyond tailgating.  For most fans lifetimes, we've been terrible.  Why we have been so bad would be another topic we can table for now.

As a result, our football fanbase is very small and few people have a tradition of going to home openers or games at all.  A lot of IU people I talk to still don't believe what's happening is sustainable.  They'll say it's a fluke, etc.  Everyone still mostly talks about basketball -- look at our forums.  And I'm not blaming anyone, people like what they like.

It takes time to establish a tradition.  When the Colts got good with Peyton, it took a few years to generate serious ticket demand.  In 1999, I remember 20K Titans fans in the RCA Dome for a playoff game the year we had a home bye (13-3 record!).  Message board posters are tuned in to what's happening, but a lot of regular IU fans still are not, and big crowds require getting regular IU fans involved.

2) IU increased the ticket prices pretty significantly this season.  IMO, that's fine for the conference games, but not the cupcakes.  $62 was the cheapest ticket available public ticket from IU for the non-con games.  That's just mispriced and way too high to get newcomers involved -- $124 for two or $250 for a family of four, plus parking, to see bad opponents.  Bad value.  A lot of not-really FB schools getting better cupcake attendance are pricing tickets at $20 or less or doing two for ones (ASU, Illinois, etc.).

3) I don't think we market very well or do a good job directly reaching out to alumni and potential ticket buyers and making it very easy to buy tickets.  I'll just leave it at that.

4) Some bright spots?  Season tickets are up 50%.  The conference slate is not a great one, no marquee opponents, but Illinois sold out five weeks ago and barring a collapse the rest of those games will too (MSU/ULCA are 93% sold, Wisky 87% sold).  Those are not cheap tickets either.

Also we secured a field sponsor and suite sponsor.  Corporate interest in increasing, which is great.

At the end of the day, I wish we were further along with fan support, and it does annoy me (that's a me problem admittedly).  But, when I think about it, I can see why things are the way they are.  Another good season I think we'll get another nice increase in fan interest.

Your point (2) is the primary culprit for the first three games. The conference home games that follow will more than compensate for them financially.

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20 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

My view to take or leave.  Most of this will come as no surprise.

1) Generally speaking, we have almost no football culture at IU beyond tailgating.  For most fans lifetimes, we've been terrible.  Why we have been so bad would be another topic we can table for now.

As a result, our football fanbase is very small and few people have a tradition of going to home openers or games at all.  A lot of IU people I talk to still don't believe what's happening is sustainable.  They'll say it's a fluke, etc.  Everyone still mostly talks about basketball -- look at our forums.  And I'm not blaming anyone, people like what they like.

It takes time to establish a tradition.  When the Colts got good with Peyton, it took a few years to generate serious ticket demand.  In 1999, I remember 20K Titans fans in the RCA Dome for a playoff game the year we had a home bye (13-3 record!).  Message board posters are tuned in to what's happening, but a lot of regular IU fans still are not, and big crowds require getting regular IU fans involved.

2) IU increased the ticket prices pretty significantly this season.  IMO, that's fine for the conference games, but not the cupcakes.  $62 was the cheapest ticket available public ticket from IU for the non-con games.  That's just mispriced and way too high to get newcomers involved -- $124 for two or $250 for a family of four, plus parking, to see bad opponents.  Bad value.  A lot of not-really FB schools getting better cupcake attendance are pricing tickets at $20 or less or doing two for ones (ASU, Illinois, etc.).

3) I don't think we market very well or do a good job directly reaching out to alumni and potential ticket buyers and making it very easy to buy tickets.  I'll just leave it at that.

4) Some bright spots?  Season tickets are up 50%.  The conference slate is not a great one, no marquee opponents, but Illinois sold out five weeks ago and barring a collapse the rest of those games will too (MSU/ULCA are 93% sold, Wisky 87% sold).  Those are not cheap tickets either.

Also we secured a field sponsor and suite sponsor.  Corporate interest in increasing, which is great.

At the end of the day, I wish we were further along with fan support, and it does annoy me (that's a me problem admittedly).  But, when I think about it, I can see why things are the way they are.  Another good season I think we'll get another nice increase in fan interest.

The Dude abides on every single thing you've said here. 

Hopefully, this year will turn the skeptics into believers and the administration understands the economic value of opponent ROI.  

Also, as long as Coach Cig is coaching in Bloomington we're always going to have a winning football team.  Coaching matters. 

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