Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Shooter said:

Let's say we add four as you suggest. That puts us at 10 players, one of whom may or may not be physically able to contribute. Are we going into the season with 9-10 players? What happens when the inevitable injuries hit, or somebody get suspended, etc?  We won't even be able to go 5 on 5 in practice without including the walkons.

I'll agree that all 7 portal guys don't have to be studs, but we do need to fill out a roster. For what it's worth, Anthony Leal was pretty clearly the 11th man at the start of the season, and he ended up playing 20+ minutes a night by the end.

I'm saying you need to put emphasis on 4-5 players (definitely two guards), you can obviously use your 11th, 12th, and 13th scholarship on depth pieces to use in emergency situations. But my comment is in regards to those suggesting that IU needs to sign 7 top portal players just to be competitive next year. I don't see it that way at all. 

[Go_Hoosiers]

24 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I'm saying you need to put emphasis on 4-5 players (definitely two guards), you can obviously use your 11th, 12th, and 13th scholarship on depth pieces to use in emergency situations. But my comment is in regards to those suggesting that IU needs to sign 7 top portal players just to be competitive next year. I don't see it that way at all. 

You're exactly right. I hope that staff fills 11, 12, and 13 with skilled basketball players who have multiple years of eligibility. Opposed to guys with no skills and a single year of eligibility (not going to name names).

[coonhounds]

Haven't been able to follow to close today. How many big fish have we landed so far?

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[coonhounds]

I'm saying you need to put emphasis on 4-5 players (definitely two guards), you can obviously use your 11th, 12th, and 13th scholarship on depth pieces to use in emergency situations. But my comment is in regards to those suggesting that IU needs to sign 7 top portal players just to be competitive next year. I don't see it that way at all. 

We need all we can get! Depending on who goes pro and who leaves we need more. Also depends on your definition of competitive. This year we were not so we need alot imo

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[OGIUAndy]

3 hours ago, cleeter said:

We aren't a good team. 

And we also haven't added 8-10 guys every spring either. 

[Hoosier DaDa]

On 3/19/2024 at 3:12 PM, HoosierTrav said:

I really hate to see people expecting Jakai Newton to be explosive. He had one of the worst injuries a basketball player can have. I cannot think of a single player that’s had it, come back even close to athletic as they were prior to it. Best case is he retained some athleticism and developed a ton of skill and IQ. 
 

Count me as one who thinks we get close to nothing from Jakai Newton in his time at IU. Which sucks bc I was really excited about him prior to his injury. 

What was his injury?  I just always heard leg injury. 

[RoncalliHoosier]

On 3/19/2024 at 1:12 PM, HoosierTrav said:

I really hate to see people expecting Jakai Newton to be explosive. He had one of the worst injuries a basketball player can have. I cannot think of a single player that’s had it, come back even close to athletic as they were prior to it. Best case is he retained some athleticism and developed a ton of skill and IQ. 
 

Count me as one who thinks we get close to nothing from Jakai Newton in his time at IU. Which sucks bc I was really excited about him prior to his injury. 

Sadly this is pretty accurate as I see it. Tough break for a kid, but it's a hard situation to bounce back from.

[JSHoosier]

5 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

What was his injury?  I just always heard leg injury. 

Knee, I read microfracture but the severity was misdiagnosed at first. He's had a couple procedures on it since.

[Golfman25]

32 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Who said anything about top 50? Some of the best acquisitions in the portal didn't sniff the top 50:

Per On3

-Marcus Domask #118

-Daniss Jenkins #139

-Hunter Sallis #194

-Ryan Conwell #182

-Cam Spencer unranked

Pick any 2 of those players and IU is soundly in the tournament this year, 

So you're looking after the fact -- that's the easy way.  :)  

Domask -- 4 years at SIU to Big10 -- turned out, but 3 pt % took a dump.

Jenkins -- Followed his coach. Wasn't available?  

Sallis --  25% from three before he transferred.  Would have fit right in at IU.  Did make a big jump this year.  

Conwell -- still playing at a "lower" level. 

Spencer -- Would have been a good pickup.  Wonder why we didn't get him.  

 

Do you really think our staff can do their homework and find potential diamonds in the rough?  

[RoncalliHoosier]

4 minutes ago, Hoosier DaDa said:

What was his injury?  I just always heard leg injury. 

The only reports I've seen say "torn meniscus and cartilage issue". He had surgery his senior year of HS, but had to have it redone after he enrolled at Indiana. Sounds like the surgery while in HS didn't help, and may have made it worse. He missed his entire senior year in HS and freshman year at IU.

[Golfman25]

13 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Haven't been able to follow to close today. How many big fish have we landed so far?

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Doesn't sound like we made it to the fishing grounds yet.  

[Golfman25]

6 minutes ago, RoncalliHoosier said:

Sadly this is pretty accurate as I see it. Tough break for a kid, but it's a hard situation to bounce back from.

I am willing to give him time.  We have the room.  

[AH1971]

4 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

So you're looking after the fact -- that's the easy way.  :)  

Domask -- 4 years at SIU to Big10 -- turned out, but 3 pt % took a dump.

Jenkins -- Followed his coach. Wasn't available?  

Sallis --  25% from three before he transferred.  Would have fit right in at IU.  Did make a big jump this year.  

Conwell -- still playing at a "lower" level. 

Spencer -- Would have been a good pickup.  Wonder why we didn't get him.  

 

Do you really think our staff can do their homework and find potential diamonds in the rough?  

I'm not on the staff, it's not my job to evaluate 1500 players. I'm simply pointing out your false rhetoric that good portal pieces exist outside the top 50. If the staff can't identify or evaluate a couple key guards in the portal this offseason we will almost assuredly struggle again next year. 

[Shooter]

15 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

I'm saying you need to put emphasis on 4-5 players (definitely two guards), you can obviously use your 11th, 12th, and 13th scholarship on depth pieces to use in emergency situations. But my comment is in regards to those suggesting that IU needs to sign 7 top portal players just to be competitive next year. I don't see it that way at all. 

Thanks for clarifying. I think we need at least 8-9 quality Big Ten level players. We currently have 3. Hopefully Cupps develops into #4, but that remains to be seen. I think Leal's ceiling on a good team is 9-10th guy. So I agree we need 4-5 guys to come in and be immediate contributors.

I've been looking for examples of teams that had 4-5 first-year transfers in their top 8-9 guys, to see how they did. I'm not aware of any teams like that who were really good. A couple had decent seasons and made the tourney, Florida and Texas Tech. A bunch more missed the tourney.

[Golfman25]

1 minute ago, AH1971 said:

I'm not on the staff, it's not my job to evaluate 1500 players. I'm simply pointing out your false rhetoric that good portal pieces exist outside the top 50. If the staff can't identify or evaluate a couple key guards in the portal this offseason we will almost assuredly struggle again next year. 

These guys need sure things.  It's the difference between hiring Pearl vs Dusty.  Both may work out, but one is a definite will work out.  

[RoncalliHoosier]

25 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Haven't been able to follow to close today. How many big fish have we landed so far?

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Woodson hasn't even gotten his worm wet yet.

[bird4par]

37 minutes ago, coonhounds said:

Haven't been able to follow to close today. How many big fish have we landed so far?

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It’s hump day

[Hornsby]

You're exactly right. I hope that staff fills 11, 12, and 13 with skilled basketball players who have multiple years of eligibility. Opposed to guys with no skills and a single year of eligibility (not going to name names).

I am guessing they will end up taking who they can get. The only thing they have to offer is money. Good players will have many other options on winning teams.

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[RaceToTheTop]

Indiana has been in contact with Eastern Kentucky PG Leland Walker.  6’1”, averaged over 15 points and 4 assists.  Shot43/34

[Stuhoo]

10 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Indiana has been in contact with Eastern Kentucky PG Leland Walker.  6’1”, averaged over 15 points and 4 assists.  Shot43/34

Early prediction:

Leland Walker will be a Hoosier.