Transfer Portal w IU Interest

[Hoosier987]

10 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The amount of arguing over a guy who hasn't yet signed at IU and whose role is being argued about on a roster that hasn't even been made yet is ridiculous.  I'm out.

This is what makes a message board interesting. They're providing back up too. If we all agreed...it would be boring.

[HoosierInParadise]

The amount of arguing over a guy who hasn't yet signed at IU and whose role is being argued about on a roster that hasn't even been made yet is ridiculous.  I'm out.

But isn't that what transfer portal discussions are all about? When no movement is occurring with regard to players committing to the program, all that can be done is to speculate. Plus, you're never going to get full consensus on a player that will come off the bench.

[CSP]

23 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Conor Enright is 6'2 180 lbs and started at a P5 school this last season. Will play heavy rotation minutes for DeVries if not outright starts, although finishing the game is what matters.

https://depaulbluedemons.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/conor-enright/3811

He grew 2in in a year? Lol I'd doubt it. 

At Depaul who went 13-19? Kinda reinforces my point. 

He's not going to start, he's not big enough, or good enough. 

[ronzo4IU]

40 minutes ago, str8baller said:

I can’t sign off on that statement. He’s solid. But he’s not even the best player on his own team.
 

 I’m not trying to disparage the guy, but if someone like him is our best guard on the team I think we don’t meet expectations for next year.  Which was the gist of my post. 

Boy, maybe I’m missing something but every time I’ve watched him this year he just kills it and especially at the end of the game. He’s a guard that I want the ball in his hands at the end of the game. He just has that killer instinct imo..

[AH1971]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

He grew 2in in a year? Lol I'd doubt it. 

He's not going to start, he's not big enough, or good enough. 

I'm going off DePaul's website just like I did for every other player I listed. 

Every one is entitled to their own opinion.

[DougWil]

8 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Conor Enright is 6'2 180 lbs and started at a P5 school this last season. Will play heavy rotation minutes for DeVries if not outright starts, although finishing the game is what matters.

https://depaulbluedemons.com/sports/mens-basketball/roster/conor-enright/3811

I'll be happy if we start putting more emphasis on the size of the fight in the dog. On intangibles, as well as tangibles. On a team full of guys who won't get outhustled and will never show up with a half-hearted effort that leads to getting blown out in Assembly Hall - or in barely beating overmatched opponents and thinking they played a good game.  

I don't know how you look at the list of names, heights, and stats of players in the transfer portal and figure out which players are the right fit unless you've seen them play a lot and know about them as a person. IU obviously needs players who can score and defend, but it also needs competitors who can excel in ways that aren't easy to judge unless you really know the player.  

[AH1971]

5 minutes ago, DougWil said:

I'll be happy if we start putting more emphasis on the size of the fight in the dog. On intangibles, as well as tangibles. On a team full of guys who won't get outhustled and will never show up with a half-hearted effort that leads to getting blown out in Assembly Hall - or in barely beating overmatched opponents and thinking they played a good game.  

I don't know how you look at the list of names, heights, and stats of players in the transfer portal and figure out which players are the right fit unless you've seen them play a lot and know about them as a person. IU obviously needs players who can score and defend, but it also needs competitors who can excel in ways that aren't easy to judge unless you really know the player.  

Enright's familiarity with DeVries system, his leadership, competitiveness, and hustle is why he'll play heavy minutes for IU next year. May not "start" games but will be a key piece to the rotation throughout.

For the record, I don't really care about his size rather showing his measurables are adequate for this level of play despite one poster being adamant that he's undersized.

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, DougWil said:

I'll be happy if we start putting more emphasis on the size of the fight in the dog. On intangibles, as well as tangibles. On a team full of guys who won't get outhustled and will never show up with a half-hearted effort that leads to getting blown out in Assembly Hall - or in barely beating overmatched opponents and thinking they played a good game.  

I don't know how you look at the list of names, heights, and stats of players in the transfer portal and figure out which players are the right fit unless you've seen them play a lot and know about them as a person. IU obviously needs players who can score and defend, but it also needs competitors who can excel in ways that aren't easy to judge unless you really know the player.  

He for sure fits. Obvious reasons DDv wants him. Very excited 

[CSP]

5 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Enright's familiarity with DeVries system, his leadership, competitiveness, and hustle is why he'll play heavy minutes for IU next year. May not "start" games but will be a key piece to the rotation throughout.

For the record, I don't really care about his size rather showing his measurables are adequate for this level of play despite one poster being adamant that he's undersized.

Undersized to start, yes. 6' 180 isn't cutting it often in P5.  Facts 

[IUGRAD06]

4 minutes ago, DougWil said:

I'll be happy if we start putting more emphasis on the size of the fight in the dog. On intangibles, as well as tangibles. On a team full of guys who won't get outhustled and will never show up with a half-hearted effort that leads to getting blown out in Assembly Hall - or in barely beating overmatched opponents and thinking they played a good game.  

I don't know how you look at the list of names, heights, and stats of players in the transfer portal and figure out which players are the right fit unless you've seen them play a lot and know about them as a person. IU obviously needs players who can score and defend, but it also needs competitors who can excel in ways that aren't easy to judge unless you really know the player.  

That’s the point.  You can complain about things about him but size isn’t one of them.  Hustle and fight isn’t one of them.  He is an average sized PG. more or less in the middle to higher range.  Looking at the 2025 class.  Most of those kids are 6’ but range from 5’9” to 6’4”.  Argue about things that matter instead of an inch or two here on preference.    

[CSP]

2 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

That’s the point.  You can complain about things about him but size isn’t one of them.  Hustle and fight isn’t one of them.  He is an average sized PG. more or less in the middle to higher range.  Looking at the 2025 class.  Most of those kids are 6’ but range from 5’9” to 6’4”.  Argue about things that matter instead of an inch or two here on preference.    

It's nothing to do with preference. He isn't big enough or skilled enough to compensate that for long periods of time. 

My preference is to be ultra skilled, which includes Enright in a 7th-9th role. 

[Coach Robby]

I´m kinda glad it´s fairly quiet right now. Seems like every player that went to portal yesterday was a 10-14 ppg, 2-4 reb, 2-4 assist guy at a small school.  The one from Wright State intrigues me today....19 ppg big guy

[IUGRAD06]

1 minute ago, Coach Robby said:

I´m kinda glad it´s fairly quiet right now. Seems like every player that went to portal yesterday was a 10-14 ppg, 2-4 reb, 2-4 assist guy at a small school.  The one from Wright State intrigues me today....19 ppg big guy

Small school transfers from smaller schools are always a crap shoot.  I would prefer to take from a mid major team.  

[RaceToTheTop]

46 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

This is what makes a message board interesting. They're providing back up too. If we all agreed...it would be boring.

I understand, but trying to figure a guy's role on a roster that isn't made is pointless. 

[CSP]

Just now, RaceToTheTop said:

I understand, but trying to figure a guy's role on a roster that isn't made is pointless. 

Everything we talk about here is pointless unless you have a few tips on raising a 16 month old girl. 

[CSP]

6 minutes ago, IUGRAD06 said:

Small school transfers from smaller schools are always a crap shoot.  I would prefer to take from a mid major team.  

Theres a difference between mid major and small school? 

[Hoosier987]

3 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

I understand, but trying to figure a guy's role on a roster that isn't made is pointless. 

But this is what message boards are for :)

[IUGRAD06]

8 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

It's nothing to do with preference. He isn't big enough or skilled enough to compensate that for long periods of time. 

My preference is to be ultra skilled, which includes Enright in a 7th-9th role. 

See here is where an argument can be made.  His best year right here was a 45% overall and 42% 3 point at Drake.  He went to Holtmann who is I believe a very crappy offensive mind and his stats went down….however his best year was 13.2 PER which isn’t the greatest.  I do wonder though what he would look like in a system for example with ….Conwell, DeVries, Goode and a Davidson which would open up the floor.  He has not had that and like many have said….you need players to accept roles and go out and play.  He won’t be scoring 10 plus points a game but he could average 10 apg with a team like that.  There was a good Davis tweet the other day showing that the 300 ranked player was a stud this year.  New system and it’s a coaches job to build a team.  

[CSP]

1 minute ago, IUGRAD06 said:

See here is where an argument can be made.  His best year right here was a 45% overall and 42% 3 point at Drake.  He went to Holtmann who is I believe a very crappy offensive mind and his stats went down….however his best year was 13.2 PER which isn’t the greatest.  I do wonder though what he would look like in a system for example with ….Conwell, DeVries, Goode and a Davidson which would open up the floor.  He has not had that and like many have said….you need players to accept roles and go out and play.  He won’t be scoring 10 plus points a game but he could average 10 apg with a team like that.  There was a good Davis tweet the other day showing that the 300 ranked player was a stud this year.  New system and it’s a coaches job to build a team.  

That can't be a lineup, respectfully.. Goode, DeVries, Enright, Conwell, Davidson would be horrendous defensively and probably would struggle, at times, to create shots for themselves. 

Goode nor Enright are starters on a T25 team. 

They could be EXCELLENT bench pieces on one though. 

 

Holtmann struggling offensively, or allegedly struggling isn't a selling point for Enright. It doesnt change he's 6ft 180lbs and not a plus athlete,m. 

[AH1971]

1 minute ago, IUGRAD06 said:

See here is where an argument can be made.  His best year right here was a 45% overall and 42% 3 point at Drake.  He went to Holtmann who is I believe a very crappy offensive mind and his stats went down….however his best year was 13.2 PER which isn’t the greatest.  I do wonder though what he would look like in a system for example with ….Conwell, DeVries, Goode and a Davidson which would open up the floor.  He has not had that and like many have said….you need players to accept roles and go out and play.  He won’t be scoring 10 plus points a game but he could average 10 apg with a team like that.  There was a good Davis tweet the other day showing that the 300 ranked player was a stud this year.  New system and it’s a coaches job to build a team.  

I think Enright compares favorably to a guy like Michael Lewis, someone who CSP is unfamiliar with or at least too young to recall his playing days. Nothing flashy or exciting about ML's game. But always got the job done and put his teammates in a position to succeed. Surround Enright with a great supporting cast and he's more than a competent player at this level. Could compare him to PJ Thompson as well at Purdue.