They “Retired” Coach Woodson Thread

[Chris007 50,709]

On 4/26/2024 at 7:33 PM, 8bucks said:

Kudos to NGW for being basically the lone voice suggesting there was good reason for optimism for IU. His style can be debatable certainly but props to him/her for knowing and believing in this path. Yeah of course you have to win on the court but you can’t expect to compete next season if you don’t also win the offseason. Everyone basically had us on life support with no hope and now look.  There is hope not only for next year but we also have some talent that could be here a few years. 

I'm sorry I'm not buying this. Everyone that knew we had 6 million to spend knew we would get players. Maybe we have gotten a little better than we thought but it's unsurprising. It was good for the staff to knock one out of the park finally. But to say NGW was the only one who thought we would do this is laughable. 

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On 4/27/2024 at 7:11 PM, Schreckbagger said:

4 Starters returning would be one.

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Here is a number

 

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31 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I'm sorry I'm not buying this. Everyone that knew we had 6 million to spend knew we would get players. Maybe we have gotten a little better than we thought but it's unsurprising. It was good for the staff to knock one out of the park finally. But to say NGW was the only one who thought we would do this is laughable. 

Ngw was also posting midseason how 'good' IU was when Cupps was on the floor.  He's been optimistic on everything and not sure he should get credit for being optimistic and correct when he never accepted it when he was optimistic and wrong.

He's obviously being fed information by someone in the know right now which is why his tweets are worth looking at.  It certainly isn't for his petty style of keeping receipts.   And he still has misses.  He basically said Essegian was IU's and then once Essegian moved on, he didn't bring it up again.  And Ngw has been pretty radio silent lately.

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On 4/27/2024 at 7:00 PM, AZ Hoosier said:

We won the B1G "star" wars last year and Woodson managed to go 10-10 in the league in a "down" year. The 24-25 season should be something to see. (Woodson: here, hold my wine)

We didn't

[KNOBYDOX 214]

Some people keep saying that he was able to keep 4 players from this season, but their record was 10/10 . Why are they excited about this?

 

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10 hours ago, Golfman25 said:

It would depend on the state of the program at the time, would it not? 

To be fair -- and I'm not a Woody fan -- the state of the program when Woodson came in was IU hadn't been to the tournament in forever and almost the whole team had entered the portal.  

[Chris007 50,709]

9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

Ngw was also posting midseason how 'good' IU was when Cupps was on the floor.  He's been optimistic on everything and not sure he should get credit for being optimistic and correct when he never accepted it when he was optimistic and wrong.

He's obviously being fed information by someone in the know right now which is why his tweets are worth looking at.  It certainly isn't for his petty style of keeping receipts.   And he still has misses.  He basically said Essegian was IU's and then once Essegian moved on, he didn't bring it up again.  And Ngw has been pretty radio silent lately.

I noticed when Ya isn't the lead recruit his info comes in much slower

[Chris007 50,709]

5 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

To be fair -- and I'm not a Woody fan -- the state of the program when Woodson came in was IU hadn't been to the tournament in forever and almost the whole team had entered the portal.  

I think that was why everyone was frustrated with Archie because we had talent

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14 minutes ago, KNOBYDOX said:

Some people keep saying that he was able to keep 4 players from this season, but their record was 10/10 . Why are they excited about this?

 

You don't see the huge value in keeping the big ten freshman of the year, a player who was big ten honorable mention as a sophomore, and Trey Galloway? 

OOOOOKAAAAAAYYYYYY then.

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34 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

To be fair -- and I'm not a Woody fan -- the state of the program when Woodson came in was IU hadn't been to the tournament in forever and almost the whole team had entered the portal.  

Agreed.  I thought it was great that he kept TJD and the rest.  Go look at my posts -- I was pumping sunshine.  He was able to stop a "sinking ship."  And stabilized everything with year 2 of TJD.  Even year 3 had some promise -- decent incoming class, landing Ware from the portal.  But then he crashed and burned.  And when I looked at the future it, there was none.  HS recruiting was unsuccessful when after 3 years he should have had a good base.  The portal saved his butt player wise.  But there still really doesn't  appear to be any foundation going forward.    

[Hornsby 2,940]

Yes it should be but quinn I guess was giving him 4 years no matter what.Well they gave him tons of coin to buy this roster so there are no excuses anymore. I don't want to hear about this guy got hurt or whatever if he has a crap season compared to expectations  
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Year two was an underchievement he gets way to much credit for just making the tourney. They were picked to win the big ten and went 23-12.

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I'm sorry I'm not buying this. Everyone that knew we had 6 million to spend knew we would get players. Maybe we have gotten a little better than we thought but it's unsurprising. It was good for the staff to knock one out of the park finally. But to say NGW was the only one who thought we would do this is laughable. 

I read wisconsin has 2.5 million in NIL so we have 3.5 million more. How many of these guys is Woodson getting with 2.5 million? Money talks period.

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4 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I read wisconsin has 2.5 million in NIL so we have 3.5 million more. How many of these guys is Woodson getting with 2.5 million? Money talks period.

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How many of these guys is Wisconsin getting with 2.5 million?

Guessing not AJ Storr or Chucky Hepburn lol

[Hornsby 2,940]

How many of these guys is Wisconsin getting with 2.5 million?

Guessing not AJ Storr or Chucky Hepburn lol

Lol Storr wanted well over a million that would be almost half their money. Doubt they could match it. Lol lol lol.

 

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[Hornsby 2,940]

That's just false.... no true fan picked them to win the B10.

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That is true plus they ran it back.

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[8bucks 6,752]

2 minutes ago, Schreckbagger said:

That's just false.... no true fan picked them to win the B10.

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We were one of the favorites in year 2, i remember that.  Early in the year many were concerned but TJD had back trouble the first 1/3 of of the year and may have contributed to that.  We got rolling late in the year and finished 2nd.  Fell short but it seemed we were on partially on track but needed to do better in NCAAs for sure.  

[Chris007 50,709]

21 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

We were one of the favorites in year 2, i remember that.  Early in the year many were concerned but TJD had back trouble the first 1/3 of of the year and may have contributed to that.  We got rolling late in the year and finished 2nd.  Fell short but it seemed we were on partially on track but needed to do better in NCAAs for sure.  

We fell short by being 3 games back and having a 12-8 record. 

[Chris007 50,709]

1 minute ago, Schreckbagger said:

Second place is still second place, unless there's only two contestants.

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We're we the two seed in the BTT?

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15 hours ago, HoosierAloha said:

Why should next year be the judgement year? Shouldn’t every year be a judgement year?

1st - nowhere close to goals and off court embarrassment
2nd - nowhere close to goals and off court embarrassment
3rd - nowhere close to goals
4th - this is the judgement year..?

off court embarrassment... now that's funny... for real, I lol'ed

[HoosierAloha 30,089]

Imagine being in a “fire coach” thread defending a mediocre coach because he won the offseason… again.

These threads don’t appear or continue when you actually meet or exceed expectations, I.e. you are a good coach.