Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[Golfman25 5,744]

17 minutes ago, HoosierX said:

Maybe he actually believed that Mike Woodson was the right guy for the job? Just because it was dumb doesn’t mean he didn’t believe it.

Must have been an emotional belief, not based on facts.  :)    

[KathywithaC 598]

6 minutes ago, Silat Player said:

No, a "dramatic turnaround" wouldn't change the fact that Woodson should not keep his job for another season.

A "dramatic turnaround" wouldnt change the lack of high school long-term high school recruits (or Indiana recruits). He simply can't recruit kids that require building relationships over time. He lost two 5-star indiana recruits this year. 

A "dramatic turnaround" wouldn't change the fact that Woodson is 0-31 on recruiting Top-100 HS guards since he signed JHS. The lack of shooting on his teams has been a consistent, huge problem, and he hasn't been able to resolve it.

A "dramatic turnaround" wouldn't change the fact that in year 4, more than half of Woodson's B1G losses have been in double-figures, and nearly half have been by 15 points or more. How is it possible that his teams get consistently blown out so often?

The fact that you believe that he should still be able to keep his job tells me that you're the one who is being emotional.

If one just looks at statistics, Woodson never should have been brought back for his fourth season. The program has not been progressing. He missed the tournament last year. He has been getting blown out of games. He barely recruits any HS players anymore because he can't. The progression of the program is poor. 

I think we’ll move on him when the season ends, which is what I said. 

[AH1971 1,575]

1 hour ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Ckathy may very well be AH1971. Trolls forget themselves. When has Kw-C and AH posted at the same time?? Coincidence?

I'm here

[PartyintheVillas 195]

1 minute ago, KathywithaC said:

I think we’ll move on him when the season ends, which is what I said. 

There is no reason to keep him now. I haven't seen one good reason given to keep him now that isn't emotional attachment or sunken cost fallacy.

Edited Wednesday at 06:52 PM by PartyintheVillas

[Home Jersey 8,563]

How can some people post when they’re eye to eye with their own colon? 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,397]

2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

So somebody is going to physically harm Woodson and/or somebody from the team and yet this fan base wonders year after year why we can't ever hire anybody worth a salt?

Yeah tone deaf.

And I'm out on Woodson by the way, so you don't need to ask 1000x over. 

lolololololololololololol

[Mr. Hoosier Pride 590]

10 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

When were you a student - athlete at IU? Genuinely interested in this.

Does my alumni status dictate my fan status, thereby granting or restricting my opinion on a team I've cheered for my entire life but could care less to watch a second of this season? 

Genuinely interested in this.

[68Hoosier 636]

I don't have X, so who can share what DD said and got Goode all fired up.  What is he saying about Goode now.  

[LamarCheeks 19,471]

12 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

You’re making my point for me - this is all EMOTION. I get that, since I hate the losing, too. It’s just not, in my opinion, a great way to make decisions, though I realize many disagree. 

Very visceral post!!!

 

[PartyintheVillas 195]

Just now, 68Hoosier said:

I don't have X, so who can share what DD said and got Goode all fired up.  What is he saying about Goode now.  

Goode is the guy that should be called out the least, too.

[Golfman25 5,744]

14 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

You’re making my point for me - this is all EMOTION. I get that, since I hate the losing, too. It’s just not, in my opinion, a great way to make decisions, though I realize many disagree. 

That is not emotion.  That is reality staring you in the face.  Get a clue man.  

[KathywithaC 598]

7 minutes ago, PartyintheVillas said:

Like I would let you dox me

Did you attend IU? I’m just curious as to when your “fandom” began, as well as your experiences in support of the program. Wasn’t sure if that began before you arrived on campus or if you simply grew up as an IU fan and have supported them in that way. I think you gave me your answer buy I wasn’t asking in an effort to “dox” you. We’re just discussing the basketball program on an Internet forum, not solving the problems of the world, so no ill-intent exists.

[Golfman25 5,744]

14 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

I hear what you’re saying, Kathy, and I truly don’t want to come off as combative either. I just think it’s important to consider the fanbase in all of this too. Fans invest so much emotionally, financially, and in terms of time, and they deserve some sense of hope and direction for the future.

If Coach Woodson were to announce an early retirement, it could actually bring some relief—not just for fans, but for the players as well. It shifts the narrative away from the struggles of the season and toward rebuilding and optimism. I think it could ease the pressure on the players by creating an environment where they can play freely, knowing the expectations for the rest of the season are reset. For those considering their next steps, it’s an opportunity to focus on showcasing their abilities without the weight of the current situation hanging over them.

It’s not about disrespecting Coach Woodson, nor the players but about setting a new tone that benefits everyone involved—players, fans, and the program alike.

 

 

In case you missed it, the fans are the problem.  

[OKHOOSIER 2,835]

56 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

Neither of those interim solutions worked well for us. Look at the landscape of college and pro sports and provide examples of interim coaches, appointed after a coach was fired for performance, succeeded. Ed Orgeron was hired at USC after Pat Haden blew out Lane Kiffin, but his tenure there was short-lived. Temporary fixes are just that - it’s baling wire and duct tape. 

Weren’t you making the argument that our play would be worse if Mike Woodson were relieved mid season a half dozen pages ago? Because you can’t have it both ways, either mid season is a bad idea for performance purposes or it’s not and an OSU Bball is a risk you run. It is not a “temporary fix” as stated, it is trying to salvage whatever dignity is left in this program. 
 

Also, just for the record, Ed Orgeron was never hired at USC. He was named interim to finish 2013 after Kiffin got tarmac’d and did not get the full time job after the season and resigned from the staff as a result. 

[Napleshoosier 10,417]

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[PartyintheVillas 195]

Just now, KathywithaC said:

Did you attend IU? I’m just curious as to when your “fandom” began, as well as your experiences in support of the program. Wasn’t sure if that began before you arrived on campus or if you simply grew up as an IU fan and have supported them in that way. I think you gave me your answer buy I wasn’t asking in an effort to “dox” you. We’re just discussing the basketball program on an Internet forum, not solving the problems of the world, so no ill-intent exists.

You are here on an anonymous internet forum asking for my personal information. That screams personal, visceral, and emotional reaction

[MikeRoberts 7,182]

5 minutes ago, KathywithaC said:

I think we’ll move on him when the season ends, which is what I said. 

What is the negative side of doing it now? People have posted a plethora of advantages but we haven’t heard one reason not to.

[68Hoosier 636]

Okay, I am following along today and feel really old.  What is DOX.

PS I have been an IU fan since the 81 championship season.  I graduated from IU in 92.  Just in case you want to DOX me.

[KathywithaC 598]

7 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

So somebody is going to physically harm Woodson and/or somebody from the team and yet this fan base wonders year after year why we can't ever hire anybody worth a salt?

Yeah tone deaf.

And I'm out on Woodson by the way, so you don't need to ask 1000x over. 

I can understand why so many people are infuriated by the current status of the program, but the implication from several posters is that violence could result if IU doesn’t terminate Woodson, and that’s disturbing on several levels, to say the least. Perhaps it’s just modern day fandom, but I’ve never associated it with our fans previously.

[Kentuckysucks 2,412]

2 minutes ago, MikeRoberts said:

What is the negative side of doing it now? People have posted a plethora of advantages but we haven’t heard one reason not to.

Don’t wanna hurt Woody and Quinn’s feelings.