Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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46 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

I don't understand how you could pick one of the three. 

One made the championship game and was close to winning it (regardless of where his players came from) and the other has his hand-picked team of highly ranked players and is floundering with them, and made it as far as the 2nd round (regardless of where his players came from). The last one didn't even play in the NCAAs.

MD is the tallest midget for me. 

 

[WeeDerkaNaut 210]

34 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

He is the worst coach in the big ten imo. He has the most resources and most highy ranked players and he still stinks.

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He's made zero effort to improve as well, he instead just shifts blame and makes excuses. Zero accountability or responsibility taken by him. That combined with the deeply talented roster that we have plus the maliciously ignorant waste of resources that IU has at its disposal would then force me to say he's the worst basketball coach out there. The team wins by their own talent because he does not coach. He is a glorified spectator with the best seat in the house. To have all that he does available to him and to do what he's doing to it, is willful incompetence and a clear sign of the administrative problems we're currently faced with. It's crystal clear why he was chosen for the position, made evident by his statements not only on senior night but in post game interviews in comparison to his choices and results. Piss poor planning provides piss poor performance. Stick that to his office door, his boys lounge door, and the administrations door. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

26 minutes ago, IUCrazy2 said:

Yeah but you are leaving out the payroll that I mentioned.  I think Davis's recruiting would have been better with several million to throw around.  He was in on guys that we lost to the shoe schools back then.

But I don't believe that. He couldn't even identify a 3-time All-American and 2x Big East POY as someone we should recruit. Conley, Zeller, and Oden had zero interest in MD. 

[go iu bb 6,393]

9 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

But I don't believe that. He couldn't even identify a 3-time All-American and 2x Big East POY as someone we should recruit. Conley, Zeller, and Oden had zero interest in MD. 

Davis' recruiting was a big problem and it certainly wouldn't have been helped by more money. He wasn't good at evaluating talent, instead he just went after the highest rated players he could find. He didn't care if they actually fit. Money may have helped him land some of his misses but it wouldn't have made him better at that. He also had problems putting together a well rounded roster with depth since he didn't take fit or roster building into account - just their ranking.

It's interesting how after 7+ seasons of Miller and Woodson, even Davis starts to look good to some people and a few wish for a return of Crean. No thanks.

[Chris007 45,584]

Let's get back to firing Mike Woodson and not debating the crappy IU coaches of Christmas's past

[go iu bb 6,393]

Yes. Let's fire Mike Woodson and not un-fire Davis or Miller. 

Maybe this time put forth real effort and thought into the hiring process.

[Herotime 766]

I keep checking, hoping someone will drop the ‘T’. When are we firing Magic Mike and hiring Bruce or Brad? That’s all that matters. I’m ready to track flights, and read tea leaves. This season is the pits!

[Home Jersey 8,622]

I am ready for another fluff piece on Bruce Pearl’s admiration for basketball in the state of Indiana so I can talk myself into believing he’s sending us subliminal messages through the media again, lol (mostly kidding…) 

[Banksyrules 4,895]

1 hour ago, WeeDerkaNaut said:

Put most of us on this thread before another year of Woodson. Most on this thread are very knowledgeable and would do a better job than him. I understand that's a low bar with his results and behavior but it's wild that it's true. It's also pretty sad. Most of the people in this thread would have IUBB in way better shape than what Woodson does. We would at least perform our coaching duties on and off the court and wouldn't be arrogant and disrespectful to the majority fanbase. It's sad that we understand what is required to be a successful coach and he is clueless. 

Sad part is that I know I could do better than Woodson. Why? Because I’m totally cool with being wrong and adjusting on the fly. I would also hire people smarter than me to run the defensive and offensive plays and humble enough to give them all the credit.  Of course I know there are others better than me , but I wouldn’t be a complete joke to the program. 

[jermhoosierfan 53]

1 minute ago, Banksyrules said:

Sad part is that I know I could do better than Woodson. Why? Because I’m totally cool with being wrong and adjusting on the fly. I would also hire people smarter than me to run the defensive and offensive plays and humble enough to give them all the credit.  Of course I know there are others better than me , but I wouldn’t be a complete joke to the program. 

Also, you would probably go to HS games to watch players, watch a BTT game to see who you are playing next, not forgot or at least know the name of the recruit you want to talk to or check out.  Sigh, the sad part is that we have about 100 other things we could say that a lot of us would do that he just doesn't do.  He thinks that he can just sit back and let everyone else do the work.  If having a top 10 team or program were that easy, they wouldn't be doing the hard grind that is needed.  FIRE MIKE WOODSON!!!

[AZ Hoosier 7,627]

3 hours ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Everyone has NIL, though. Like it isn't just us and while we might "have one of the biggest NILs", again, we aren't the only one with money. 

Isn't Kansas State paying gobs of NIL to people? 

Crean beat out UK and UNC for multiple recruits. 

I want Woodson gone as quickly as everyone, but you all are flat-out forgetting how terrible MD+Archie were. 

IU basketball has sucked bilge water since the waning days of RMK. Davis had an appearance in the finals in 2002... and Crean got us ranked #1 and to two Sweet Sixteens... none of that is evidence of a quality coach, or an exemplary program. Woodson has continued the epic slide in to irrelevance... Davis, Crean, Miller and Woodson have all had their turn rearranging the deck chairs in the Titanic, and we still suck as a basketball program.

Just fire Woodson and let's try to make something relevant happen here... but arguing over who was the best of the crappy coaches is pretty much pointless... NONE have had a positive impact on anything.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

1 minute ago, AZ Hoosier said:

IU basketball has sucked bilge water since the waning days of RMK. Davis had an appearance in the finals in 2002... and Crean got us ranked #1 and to two Sweet Sixteens... none of that is evidence of a quality coach, or an exemplary program. Woodson has continued the epic slide in to irrelevance... Davis, Crean, Miller and Woodson have all had their turn rearranging the deck chairs in the Titanic, and we still suck as a basketball program.

Just fire Woodson and let's try to make something relevant happen here... but arguing over who was the best of the crappy coaches is pretty much pointless... NONE have had a positive impact on anything.

None of anything we talk about here has a positive impact on anything. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

37 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Davis' recruiting was a big problem and it certainly wouldn't have been helped by more money. He wasn't good at evaluating talent, instead he just went after the highest rated players he could find. He didn't care if they actually fit. Money may have helped him land some of his misses but it wouldn't have made him better at that. He also had problems putting together a well rounded roster with depth since he didn't take fit or roster building into account - just their ranking.

It's interesting how after 7+ seasons of Miller and Woodson, even Davis starts to look good to some people and a few wish for a return of Crean. No thanks.

I loved Crean lol 

I can respect why it seemed like it was time to move on, but I will absolutely take the way his teams played 100000000x over Archie and lord knows Woodson's. 

[JSHoosier 20,436]

Can we stop debating if Davis was better than Woodson? Woodson might take it as a challenge and get boat raced by Little Sister's of the Poor.

[OKHOOSIER 2,880]

27 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

None of anything we talk about here has a positive impact on anything. 

True, but at least for me it is cathartic. And debate about the future is more fun than the current season.

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

1350+ pages in NOW we're worried about what we're discussing in this thread? lol 

[Uspshoosier 46,329]

2 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

1350+ pages in NOW we're worried about what we're discussing in this thread? lol 

 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

4 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

True, but at least for me it is cathartic. And debate about the future is more fun than the current season.

 I just couldn't believe I read someone mention that 5 years of **** was "clearly" less smelly than this current 4 years of ****. 

I also don't like that this site censors my **** talk. I'm full of ****. 

[Certified Sunshine Pumper 9,408]

20 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Can we stop debating if Davis was better than Woodson? Woodson might take it as a challenge and get boat raced by Little Sister's of the Poor.

The Little Sisters of the Poor are UNDOUBTELY more mentally tough than we are. 

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46 minutes ago, Banksyrules said:

Sad part is that I know I could do better than Woodson. Why? Because I’m totally cool with being wrong and adjusting on the fly. I would also hire people smarter than me to run the defensive and offensive plays and humble enough to give them all the credit.  Of course I know there are others better than me , but I wouldn’t be a complete joke to the program. 

If you did that all that is left for you to do is smoke cigars and drink wine.  :)