Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IndianaSconnie90 371]

Hammer and Rails had an interesting piece about IU/Purdue. Don't know that I agree about their view of how we recruit/don't recruit the state however. I think we just suck at recruiting the state. They seemed to believe that IU believes they're above recruiting the state 

[Artie86 2,243]

1 minute ago, Scotty R said:

Matt Painter was on the radio today and asked him about getting Smith. He said Purdue offered on a Thursday and was the first power conference to offer him and in within 12 hours he committed to Purdue. So hearing that it doesn't sound like  IU offered at all

You are right….! As soon as Purdue offered, 24 hours later he committed to Purdue. Again, dumbest thing IU did. I thinks we had him if we would have offered.He said he always thought he would go to IU.

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2 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

Year 4 of the Woodson era and we are 11.5 point dogs to Purdue….

[RaceToTheTop 26,764]

Worth noting that Matt Painter spent ten years as an assistant, a year as a head coach, and another where he served as a head-coach-in-waiting under Keady.  Sheyer spent nine years as an assistant at Duke before getting the head job.

The difference is that by the time they got there head jobs, they were no longer just ex-players.

Sure, it is possible for someone to become a good head college coach immediately....just not very likely.

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Just now, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Hammer and Rails had an interesting piece about IU/Purdue. Don't know that I agree about their view of how we recruit/don't recruit the state however. I think we just suck at recruiting the state. They seemed to believe that IU believes they're above recruiting the state 

Woody believes he’s above a lot of things. That’s the main reason. 

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1 minute ago, Artie86 said:

You are right….! As soon as Purdue offered, 24 hours later he committed to Purdue. Again, dumbest thing IU did. I thinks we had him if we would have offered.He said he always thought he would go to IU.

Painter said any power team that was the first to offer was going to get him because Smith wanted to prove he can play at that level.

[Artie86 2,243]

10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

https://www.insidethehall.com/2020/07/01/hes-grown-up-quickly-how-braden-smith-is-changing-the-culture-of-westfield-high-school-basketball/
No offer 

I misspoke… Archie was keeping an eye on him, but waited too long and Purdue pretty much stole him. He says he thought he would go to IU, until Purdue offered.

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16 minutes ago, Certified Sunshine Pumper said:

Archie didn't recruit him the way he should have and did he ever offer? 

The only offers Braden Smith has listed on 247 are Toledo, Montana, Appalachian State, and Purdue.  Lots of people missed on him.  

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15 minutes ago, Scotty R said:

Matt Painter was on the radio today and asked him about getting Smith. He said Purdue offered on a Thursday and was the first power conference to offer him and in within 12 hours he committed to Purdue. So hearing that it doesn't sound like  IU offered at all

Yes, IU never offered. It was thought that if they did offer, he would commit on the spot or close to it. Similar to what you just said happened with Purdue offering. Some people were pretty high on him, a lot of others had doubts and wanted higher rated players.

One of those that wanted higher rated players was Woodson. Big miss by him but to be fair, Smith likely wouldn't have prospered in Woodson's system like he has at PU. The same could be said about Miller's system.

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4 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

You are right….! As soon as Purdue offered, 24 hours later he committed to Purdue. Again, dumbest thing IU did. I thinks we had him if we would have offered.He said he always thought he would go to IU.

Reminds me of Aaron Henry.  While everyone wondered if he was good enough to play at IU and IU waited too long to offer, he jumped at an offer to play for Michigan State.  Three years later he was a three year starter and put up 15.4 points, 5.6 rebounds, and 3.6 assists as a junior.

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22 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

I mean alot of teams didn’t offer him.

Yea I am pretty sure Purdue was his only P4 offer. I don't think he even took an OV to IU. I remember Butler offered him too I think. 

Edit: Looked it up, I was mistaken, Butler never offered I guess. 

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6 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The only offers Braden Smith has listed on 247 are Toledo, Montana, Appalachian State, and Purdue.  Lots of people missed on him.  

Swear to God when I hurriedly read that I thought you wrote Tony Montana and I was so confused...

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11 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Hammer and Rails had an interesting piece about IU/Purdue. Don't know that I agree about their view of how we recruit/don't recruit the state however. I think we just suck at recruiting the state. They seemed to believe that IU believes they're above recruiting the state 

Woody just sucks.  I know most on here hate him but I still think most are underestimating just how incompetent he truly is.  And for reference, little Archie landed Romeo, Trayce, and Lander.

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20 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

They never offered 

Someone told me Smith grew up an IU fan. Any truth to that?

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9 minutes ago, RaceToTheTop said:

The only offers Braden Smith has listed on 247 are Toledo, Montana, Appalachian State, and Purdue.  Lots of people missed on him.  

That's not a very good reason for a kid playing in the 2nd best basketball conference in our state and at a time where our guards were trash. You can't miss on Braden Smith if you're Archie. 

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Fife on JMV, says he still stays in contact with Dolson. He feels bad for him about the current situation because he knows it wasn’t Dolson’s decision to make the current hire. Says IU is stuck in the mud being too reliant on just spending money, hoping you get talent, rolling the ball onto the floor and seeing what happens.

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5 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

Yes, IU never offered. It was thought that if they did offer, he would commit on the spot or close to it. Similar to what you just said happened with Purdue offering. Some people were pretty high on him, a lot of others had doubts and wanted higher rated players.

One of those that wanted higher rated players was Woodson. Big miss by him but to be fair, Smith likely wouldn't have prospered in Woodson's system like he has at PU. The same could be said about Miller's system.

Woodson didn't miss anything that was Archie

[Artie86 2,243]

Just now, Ramrod said:

Someone told me Smith grew up an IU fan. Any truth to that?

Yes…. He said he thought he would be a Hoosier, (they didn’t offer) but Purdue offered and that was it.

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1 hour ago, IU22 said:

Purdue plays like IU should. IU really screwed up by not looking at Braden Smith.

He would have transferred out anyway after being called Branden relentlessly by Woodson.

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3 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

Woody just sucks.  I know most on here hate him but I still think most are underestimating just how incompetent he truly is.  And for reference, little Archie landed Romeo, Trayce, and Lander.

Cant include Lander with those two lol