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Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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I am assuming Woody was Buckner's pick and Fife/Matta was Dolson's "counter" to "sell" it because he knew Woody had 0 experience and needed the help.....this blew up in Dolson's face and he's left to repair it.....No doubt he will
Yep. The whole thing was just absurd. We just had four bad years so lets hire someone with no experience. Its clear quinn was not thinking about the program. It was all for personal reasons.

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7 hours ago, 12345Brad said:

I actually think an interim is the best of both worlds - maybe rally the troops for the next two months and have a new coach by early April.  

I’ve been against firing him mid season, but the argument for it is basically this. Try and salvage something for guys like Leal and Goode who are on their last go around and are busting their @$$.  
 

At this point, unless Hunter is a miracle worker we’re probably hoping to have a competitive squad that has a punchers chance in the BTT. It’s something at least. 

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I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

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15 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

I think there are many us almost there too! It’s a shame it’s come to this!

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20 minutes ago, reconmkd said:

Tony Adragna was on X last night with an open Q&A, says MW will get the rest of the season due to being a program legend and basically there is no one on the bench that could take over, but believes he deserves to be canned now. 

He’s probably correct but Tony is no insider.  He has no idea what is going on.

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9 hours ago, HoosierFan1994 said:

Not that it matters, but I decided to email Dolson a short, but polite message after the game yesterday. He at least took the time to respond. Probably should have sent it to the BOT.

Based on Woodson's Radio show comments, he isn't going down without a fight. I just don't see him "retiring". I think the University is going to have to fire him. Quinn Buckner's term doesn't end until July 1st. Who is to say he won't step in after the season is over in March and demand Woodson is back? It is clear they have massive ego's and just don't get it. I really do think Woodson thinks he is doing such a good job. What a mess. 

Last, I know most of you hate him. But, Dakich is worth a listen to today. I absolutely believe that the talk about Ballo and some of the players are true. It shows during the games. Look no further than Goode having Woodson and Rosemond turn around after the game. I really do think this is the lowest this program has been in 15 years. It's sad...I felt after sweeping Purdue in 2023 that the tide was changing. Makes me appreciate Trayce even more. 

Good post. Unfortunately there’s people more influential and frankly powerful than Dolson regarding IUBB…it’s part of the reason why Woodson is arrogant/cocky….yes, he’s part of that group. He will not willingly “retire.” Time will tell, but this isn’t going to be easy. It may have to take some serious balls from Dolson. Let’s hope. 

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2 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

He’s probably correct but Tony is no insider.  He has no idea what is going on.

I know, just trying to start thinking rationally. I read his responses and began to think, ya know this probably makes more sense of what will happen, given our history of fumbling these situations. Sorry just trying to cool down after watching that last debacle in person. 

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I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....
My daughter is a relatively new fan. Like maybe last 3 years. Anyhow just giving the perspective that she cares and is sad when we lose. I try to tell her we suck and are probably not going to win but she still gets her hopes up. Anyhow point is the younger kids have passion and want us to win. I am not sure how long you can keep them though if you don't improve the program imo

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12 minutes ago, Hoosier987 said:

Good post. Unfortunately there’s people more influential and frankly powerful than Dolson regarding IUBB…it’s part of the reason why Woodson is arrogant/cocky….yes, he’s part of that group. He will not willingly “retire.” Time will tell, but this isn’t going to be easy. It may have to take some serious balls from Dolson. Let’s hope. 

I’m not insider, but I agree, this is how I see it playing out as well.  It will probably be nasty behind the scenes.  Scott has to win the political battle — he’s probably got Pam on his side and if he can get our key donors too he’s good to go.  Mike just doesn’t have a case to stay with these results after so much money spent, even the Cook crew will have to concede this point.

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1 hour ago, str8baller said:

I’ve been against firing him mid season, but the argument for it is basically this. Try and salvage something for guys like Leal and Goode who are on their last go around and are busting their @$$.  
 

At this point, unless Hunter is a miracle worker we’re probably hoping to have a competitive squad that has a punchers chance in the BTT. It’s something at least. 

The other argument is, we squeak into the tourney, win a game, and then the Woodson cadre say, see? We are back. I don’t buy the argument from rational people that that wouldn’t be good enough. 

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44 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

I feel like our situation is more along the lines of the new Nike slogan that dropped during the Olympics. "Winning isn't for everyone." The people at/around IU who have the money and control don't know how to win and they refuse to get out of the way. Their egos won't allow it. 

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Fire everybody. They suck big time.
That's where I am. I am not praising dolson or anyone else until this is fixed. I get that they are going to wait to fire him until all hope is lost. The real crime was committed last year when they retained his sorry @$$

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2 minutes ago, Pagoda said:

I’m not insider, but I agree, this is how I see it playing out as well.  It will probably be nasty behind the scenes.  Scott has to win the political battle — he’s probably got Pam on his side and if he can get our key donors too he’s good to go.  Mike just doesn’t have a case to stay with these results after so much money spent, even the Cook crew will have to concede this point.

  

Things will definitely be getting uglier, the more we under-perform and lose.

I just hope Dolson's hands aren't tied right now with some "red tape" within Woodson's contract about firing "in season".....

 

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49 minutes ago, SlammySammy said:

I am starting to feel apathy creeping up on me at an alarming rate....I was almost to the point this morning where I was not even going to bother checking the board for updates.....IT FEELS like we will get our hopes up and get bashed in the face with Woodson for another year......The administration is waiting us out until we can give two craps about the program, and they are no longer under pressure...."Let's beat the fans down so badly with this nonsense that they stop caring, and then we can get to where we want to be...win a few high-profile games at home annually, a few exciting dunks for the kiddos, maybe we start the walk-ons so that everyone gets a trophy......MEDIOCRITY IS THE NEW NORM...Sounds crazy but younger fans and newer admin just do not identify with the passion of the fans that have been around since Knight and the winning days....thats my opinion. What is the incentive for them to deal with all the headaches and the news reports and the social media hate on and on and on....

I think you have it backwards. The people with power at IU have been around since the Knight days, and they are the ones who put us in this situation.

The students (younger fans) are the ones who chanted to fire him

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11 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I don’t think it was. I heard he was disciplined for it. It has also been known around campus that he’s out on nights after games and weekends. He’s not liked by other males on campus.

Are the males pissed off that he’s stealing all the girls?

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