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Fire Coach Woodson Thread

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4 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

Just a reminder for those if you don’t get your guy A, B, C or even D there are plenty of good college basketball coaches coaching today that could take over and turn this around.  Doesn’t have to be the name brand coach to get this thing rolling.   Also if and that will be a big if Stevens becomes head coach and he doesn’t turn IU around then that’s all she wrote for IU basketball.   He is the White Whale for almost every IU fan.  If he can’t fix it then I would say most fans will check out 

Yep, and he knows that too.

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2 minutes ago, Hoosierfanyuh said:

Ohhhh good point, assuming we will travel to Columbus today it’ll be interesting to see who is on the flight, maybe? Potentially? Realistically don’t think anything will happen til after these next two games though.

Flight leaves at 4:09

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27 minutes ago, jumpshot53 said:

Woodson's culture wouldn't change no matter how he got his players.  He can't coach good basketball.  There are coaches doing just fine with putting their teams together.   Woodson just can't coach winning basketball.

Exactly but why is that?  Because he doesn’t have a system to recruit to and his culture is allowing the inmates to run the asylum 

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Just now, IUrocker said:

Would something like that actually happen though? Woodson end up not getting on the flight without some type of statement saying he’s not the coach any longer? 

I doubt it - unless they spin it in a “something came up” and coach X will be the stand in for this game 

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15 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I wonder if Woodson is not on the plane later today would Armond still go? Or just in general if we retire Woodson will Armond step down too mid-season

Armond would have to step down. No way he would want to stay awake through entire games...

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15 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Pretty much guaranteed that Woody's last game on the IU bench will also be Armond's last game on the IU bench. Now watch them name Armond the interim coach, as the only one on that bench that has college head coaching experience.

That would be so IU-like! Dolson smarter than that!. Could have seen Fred Glass do that though!

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44 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

Winning instantly (because of the portal) doesn't translate to building and establishing a culture. We've had one coach do that the last 25 years (Crean) and he was by far and away our best coach since RMK. The portal alleviates 6-25 seasons in year 1, but if you're buying 7-8 guys every single offseason, you aren't building or establishing anything. 

I'd much rather a coach spend his first year or two identifying, developing, and building a culture that sets up for much further long term success regardless of record than purchasing a bunch of rentals because it might mean you win 20 games and play in the NCAAT. Call me old school, call me an outlier, call me whatever you want but you aren't going to eliminate 30+ years of frustration in one or two seasons because of the portal. That I promise.

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but it feels like we spent about 350 pages last offseason litigating Team Mercenary™️ and how it was not a recipe for long term success. 
 

We have 500 pages of you not being an outlier lol, most of us hated having a one, then zero, then one freshman class. Hell, the FMW thread was like 500 pages in before Liam even deecommitted. 

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On Armond Hill...it has been said that he has a medical condition. I'm not being flippant at all but I don't think it's necessarily fair to call him lazy for his low-energy and sleepy appearance during games on the sideline. He is, by all accounts, a very nice man. It's probably very fair to say he should not be involved as a key member of a high-major college basketball staff given the medical condition but still, I thought it worth pointing out given the jokes being made at his expense.

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48 minutes ago, Eagle’s Rug said:

So Woodson’s lazy approach to recruiting and over reliance on the portal to make up for that must have really turned you off.

When the demands and expectations of the job require you to win overnight, what other choice do you have? 

The fan base HAD to give Crean 2-3 years because he literally started with nothing. And he enjoyed the most success by far. I don't believe that to be a coincidence. Do you?

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5 minutes ago, OKHOOSIER said:

Someone correct me if I’m wrong but it feels like we spent about 350 pages last offseason litigating Team Mercenary™️ and how it was not a recipe for long term success. 
 

We have 500 pages of you not being an outlier lol, most of us hated having a one, then zero, then one freshman class. Hell, the FMW thread was like 500 pages in before Liam even deecommitted. 

So you're telling me that if whoever is hired comes in, guts the roster clean, and says he's not going the mercenary all-star route year 1 you're going to live with .500 results for the first year or two? I call bull****.

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2 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

When the demands and expectations of the job require you to win overnight, what other choice do you have? 

The fan base HAD to give Crean 2-3 years because he literally started with nothing. And he enjoyed the most success by far. I don't believe that to be a coincidence. Do you?

So the pressure of the job caused Woodson to be a lazy and unsucesseful recruiter of high school players? LOL

Got it. That must be why he struck out on all of the high school guard prospects he went after after he got JHS. 

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Just now, dwtaylor1055 said:

woody being let go before ohio st game?

No shot.  The earliest would be before our next home game, and that's only if we continue to get our ***** kicked like the last 2 games. 

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