Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[IUFAN1976 3,846]

3 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

So the twitter burners have mentioned some "health issues" with the team as a "reason" why they aren't playing well.  I assume it's deeper than Malik's injury.  Any insight?  

An excuse, one of many!

[Capt. Crimson 3,513]

Not going to rehash the Crean dismissal, but there were all sorts of red flags besides the sweet 16 losses which showed the program was trending down and justified the decision.  He was kind of a bumbling, fumbling, dude.   My understanding is he was a little "corny" and "goofy" to work with.  Add the in-state recruiting issues, the "Creaning" (which is expected now with the portal), and his lack of defensive balance, off the court issues, etc., you could make a case for letting him go and trying to step up to someone better.  Problem is IU spit the bit and didn't go with someone better.  In hindsight, the Crean dismissal may have been a mistake. 

But, Tom Crean is a perfect example that even a marginal coach with the right attributes can have some success at IU.  Imagine what could happen with a good to great coach.  

(PS: Not bashing Crean.  I am grateful that he took the job when IU was facing the abyss and got us back on the map.  I thought he did a very good job from where he started.  Just couldn't sustain it.  Definitely deserves our respect.)   

Tom Crean personally signed a slightly drunk Freshman Capt. Crimson up for season tickets at a football game. Walking around by himself with a clipboard introducing himself to the students. He was willing to grind to get us where he did under his tenure. I still think we found our peak under him but I think he did a pretty good job all things considered.

 

 

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[go iu bb 6,828]

10 minutes ago, Kentuckysucks said:

https://x.com/d1father/status/1753861874112684522?s=46
 

 

So February 3rd of last year. After the Hoosiers lost to Penn State (10-11 before that game) at home for their 9th loss of the season. At that point, IU had just lost 6 of 9 games. Yeah, he doesn't care. That's as bad as the Woodson wine and cigars picture after a loss.

That's a mighty nice purse Quinn has there.

[Artie86 2,283]

For the life of me, I can’t understand why Coach Woodson’s “broken record” response to IU’s poor play is ALWAYS “I gotta get these guys playing better….”, “I gotta do this….”, I gotta get them better…”!!!! We are over half way through the season and he still lacks visibile and notable improvements! What the h*ll is he doing in practice each day? This seems like the team has TOTALLY checked out and have stopped believing in Coach Woodson, at least the majority of them.
What boss of a business would continue to let an employee continue to perform and get those same results and make those same excuses without being confronted and most likely fired? JMO

[mdiu28 1,906]

4 minutes ago, Artie86 said:

For the life of me, I can’t understand why Coach Woodson’s “broken record” response to IU’s poor play is ALWAYS “I gotta get these guys playing better….”, “I gotta do this….”, I gotta get them better…”!!!! We are over half way through the season and he still lacks visibile and notable improvements! What the h*ll is he doing in practice each day? The is just smells like the team has TOTALLY checked out and have stopped believing in Coach Woodson, at least the majority of them.
 What boss of a business would continue to let an employee continue to perform and get those same results and make those same excuses without being confronted and most likely fired? JMO

Unfortunately I think we have a group of guys that just want their paychecks. They could care less about IU. 

Is there any way to make NIL performance based? That would be nice.

[Home Jersey 9,487]

GO QUINN, GO QUINN, GO!

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GO GO GO 

AYY AYY

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5 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

So February 3rd of last year. After the Hoosiers lost to Penn State for their 9th lose of the season. Yeah, he doesn't care. That's as bad as the Woodson wine and cigars picture after a loss.

I am thinking that's just when the person tweeted this video. I distinctly remember it being in one of TJD's years... maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think so. 

[Capt. Crimson 3,513]

Unfortunately I think we have a group of guys that just want their paychecks. They could care less about IU. 
Is there any way to make NIL performance based? 

I think that’s definitely the problem with the top guys in the portal. Most likely in it for money rather than playing time. Hard to build a team of mercs that way. I think Goode wants to win. He seems passionate. But even for our guys like Galloway and Leal.. There’s no incentive to succeed. They already have the carrot.


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[maxwell 605]

29 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

I think all of it takes time. Lots of things to nail down. Be patient. 

Would you be referring to nailing down which days of the week we are utilizing a plane and which days are utilizing a chopper for transportation to Carmel Soccer?

[Capt. Crimson 3,513]

I am thinking that's just when the person tweeted this video. I distinctly remember it being in one of TJD's years... maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think so. 

I agree. Think this is a couple years old. That mark guy is a troll account.


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[spe317 612]

Unpopular opinion—I’d rehire Coach Crean if he could fix roughly 3 things. 

1) set schedule/normality in routine

2) warmer personality/less difficult to work with administratively

3) less awkward/more successful high school relationships and recruiting. 
 

I’d accept some of the ups and downs and I think those steps above would resolve some of those issues. How many of us miss watching a team that could shoot?

[iuhoopstrufan 13]

18 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Who has that video of Buckner doing a goofy dance in the IU locker room during I think Mike's second season around March, maybe when they punched their ticket or won 1st round game? Was he also eating a sandwich or something... I remember it being pretty ridiculous lol. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?

That video was from the Pacers locker room 

[go iu bb 6,828]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I am thinking that's just when the person tweeted this video. I distinctly remember it being in one of TJD's years... maybe I'm mistaken but I don't think so. 

Gotcha.

[Uspshoosier 46,931]

This thread should be smooth sailing from here on out.  Seems like everyone is on the same page.   No need to  call anyone out anymore.    It’s over for Woodson.    While some might not agree on how some post about the firing everyone wants the same thing moving forward.     This should be the easiest thread to moderate moving forward 

[Muskie plays the four 396]

14 minutes ago, Chris007 said:

Only health I’ve heard is with Woodson. Might need to retire due to health reasons. 

My Mullins guy told me way back. That Woody wasn't real healthy and had a hard  time getting around and it was noticed. Something about getting in a  vehicle at a sectional game. 

[go iu bb 6,828]

Just now, Uspshoosier said:

This thread should be smooth sailing from here on out.  Seems like everyone is on the same page.   No need to  call anyone out anymore.    It’s over for Woodson.    While some might not agree on how some post about the firing everyone wants the same thing moving forward.     This should be the easiest thread to moderate moving forward 

Is it too late to change my vote? I think he should stay.

[AZ Hoosier 8,070]

So the twitter burners have mentioned some "health issues" with the team as a "reason" why they aren't playing well.  I assume it's deeper than Malik's injury.  Any insight?  

Does Woodson being butt-hurt count?

Joking aside, I’ve not seen/heard anything beyond the obvious - Newton and Reneau.

[IUFAN1976 3,846]

15 minutes ago, Golfman25 said:

Not going to rehash the Crean dismissal, but there were all sorts of red flags besides the sweet 16 losses which showed the program was trending down and justified the decision.  He was kind of a bumbling, fumbling, dude.   My understanding is he was a little "corny" and "goofy" to work with.  Add the in-state recruiting issues, the "Creaning" (which is expected now with the portal), and his lack of defensive balance, off the court issues, etc., you could make a case for letting him go and trying to step up to someone better.  Problem is IU spit the bit and didn't go with someone better.  In hindsight, the Crean dismissal may have been a mistake. 

But, Tom Crean is a perfect example that even a marginal coach with the right attributes can have some success at IU.  Imagine what could happen with a good to great coach.  

(PS: Not bashing Crean.  I am grateful that he took the job when IU was facing the abyss and got us back on the map.  I thought he did a very good job from where he started.  Just couldn't sustain it.  Definitely deserves our respect.)   

I still say call him up and ask him to be the interim!  I darn sure know he can coach this team better than MW.  He would have them do those rebounding drills, which is something this team sucks at and he will get them to shoot the 3 better!

[LamarCheeks 19,804]

6 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

GO QUINN, GO QUINN, GO!

GO QUINN!

GO GO GO 

AYY AYY

[Uspshoosier 46,931]

Just now, go iu bb said:

Is it too late to change my vote? I think he should stay.