Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[OKHOOSIER 2,482]

5 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

PSU was favored by 7.5, they beat Purdue by 11 but we should have shellacked them by 25….OK.

Good win today but on Jan 11th we start an 11 game stretch in which I think we will only win 3-4 games and the new coach train will keep rolling/accelerate.

Hence why I said today. On no planet should IU win by 6 when any opponent shoots 14% from three and sub 60% from the line. That was more my point, not that if they played 10 times IU wins by 25 more than once or twice. The once was today. The Nitts played terrible. 

[MikeRoberts 7,047]

I think today exposes Woodson even in a conference road win. It was a nice win but I believe the only reason we won is because Woodson was forced to do something he didn’t want to do.

the players are good enough to win these games but tying their hands behind their backs each night makes it unnecessarily difficult.

[DChoosier 8,567]

Just now, OKHOOSIER said:

Hence why I said today. On no planet should IU win by 6 when any opponent shoots 14% from three and sub 60% from the line. That was more my point, not that if they played 10 times IU wins by 25 more than once or twice. The once was today. The Nitts played terrible. 

I get it.

When teams hit a high percentage of 3’s our defense sucks.

When teams hit a low percentage of 3’s their offense sucks.

[Tasmanian Devil 1,604]

3 minutes ago, AH1971 said:

IUBB “fans” in shambles lol

I don't want IU basketball to lose.

But you're being entirely disingenuous if you can't admit Penn St had more to do with their loss that we did to gain the win. They shot 3-21 (14.2%) from three point range; they normally shoot 35.3 % from behind the arc. They shot an abysmal 10-17 at the FT line (58.8 %); coming into this game  they were 76.2 % from the charity stripe. 

On average per game, they hit 7.6 3-pointers and 18.7 free throws. Just HALF of the  difference from what they did today vs their average would have given them 10 additional 10 points.

Reneau being out has actually benefitted IU - they shot .444 and .391 from 3-point range with Malik sidelined. When he comes back, I seriously doubt Woodson maintains the 1-big system being forced on him with Reneau's absence. And I seriously doubt that once we start play the better conference teams, we'll maintain the shooting numbers from the past two game.

 

[Tasmanian Devil 1,604]

28 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

IU fans always turn out but it looked 80/85% PSU.

IU has never played there.

It was like IU playing a team in Indy.

Aside from that, and the hotel and plane ride,  I guess it was a de facto home game. LOL

 

Like I mentioned earlier, I was following online. Couldn't see everything, but it looked like a LOT of red was in the stands. And considering Penn St never has anyone at home games, I could understand IU having more at the Palestra. Wonder how vocal we were?

[Home Jersey 7,952]

Program is exactly where we all want it to be grinding out a win against a PSU team that shot extremely poorly from 3 today. I admit I wrote the team off too soon as in I assumed we’d continue seeing the same lack of effort we have been prior to the past two games especially. Doesn’t mean I’m particularly impressed. Just that I think we can now probably win 8 or 9 games instead of 6 or 7. Better barometer than Rutgers but why overreact - not like we beat a top 25 team. USC is very winnable and 4-1 to start conference season be a good start before the conference schedule really gets tough. Thank goodness gracious this is our last season with Mike as HC. He’s pitiful. 

[OKHOOSIER 2,482]

9 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I get it.

When teams hit a high percentage of 3’s our defense sucks.

When teams hit a low percentage of 3’s their offense sucks.

Again, not what I said. If you’re arguing they missed a bunch of wide open threes to include one at the end that would have tied it due to something we did, I don’t know what to say. Penn State didn’t shoot 14% because of how awesome our defense was lol. 

 

 

[MikeRoberts 7,047]

3 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Like I mentioned earlier, I was following online. Couldn't see everything, but it looked like a LOT of red was in the stands. And considering Penn St never has anyone at home games, I could understand IU having more at the Palestra. Wonder how vocal we were?

There were more than 15% IU fans and they were vocal in a positive way

[Tasmanian Devil 1,604]

12 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

I get it.

When teams hit a high percentage of 3’s our defense sucks.

When teams hit a low percentage of 3’s their offense sucks.

Did their struggles come about somewhat because of our D? Maybe.

That much below? Nah, they just stunk up the joint. We're not THAT good defensively.

[OKHOOSIER 2,482]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Program is exactly where we all want it to be grinding out a win against a PSU team that shot extremely poorly from 3 today. I admit I wrote the team off too soon as in I assumed we’d continue seeing the same lack of effort we have been prior to the past two games especially. Doesn’t mean I’m particularly impressed. Just that I think we can now probably win 8 or 9 games instead of 6 or 7. Better barometer than Rutgers but why overreact - not like we beat a top 25 team. USC is very winnable and 4-1 to start conference season be a good start before the conference schedule really gets tough. Thank goodness gracious this is our last season with Mike as HC. He’s pitiful. 

It’s really gonna depend on not playing two bigs. I wanna see one or the other off the bench. We do that, I think 10 wins is possible. Not holding my breath though. It’s not the first time we’ve seen better play with one big since Malik stays in foul trouble. 

[Uspshoosier 45,975]

That was a heck of win away from home by IU. Usually how it works if a team shoots bad and has a bad game the other team takes advantage.  Pretty sure that’s how it works with every team.   Illinois took advantage of a terrible game by Oregon and they won by 30 on the road.  

[Scotty R 2,207]

53 minutes ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

Still don't see it.

Penn St couldn't hit the Atlantic Ocean if they were standing on Daytona Beach.  3-20 from behind the arc, 58.8 % from the FT line. Why did they agree to play in the Palestra instead of home - it was a defacto IU home game with all the alumni from that area?

Woodson is forced to play without Reneau inside and they overall play better. They're still not good. The slide is coming; days like today only mask what is inevitable.

They play there once a year

[IndianaSconnie90 241]

1 minute ago, Uspshoosier said:

That was a heck of win away from home by IU. Usually how it works if a team shoots bad and has a bad game the other team takes advantage.  Pretty sure that’s how it works with every team.   Illinois took advantage of a terrible game by Oregon and they won by 30 on the road.  

Disingenuous argument but sure

[Hornsby 2,088]

Program is exactly where we all want it to be grinding out a win against a PSU team that shot extremely poorly from 3 today. I admit I wrote the team off too soon as in I assumed we’d continue seeing the same lack of effort we have been prior to the past two games especially. Doesn’t mean I’m particularly impressed. Just that I think we can now probably win 8 or 9 games instead of 6 or 7. Better barometer than Rutgers but why overreact - not like we beat a top 25 team. USC is very winnable and 4-1 to start conference season be a good start before the conference schedule really gets tough. Thank goodness gracious this is our last season with Mike as HC. He’s pitiful. 

I suspect Woodson wins 10 or 11 which is enough to save his job. The expectations are pretty low so that should do it. People thinking he is gone are delusional imo.

 

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[Home Jersey 7,952]

5 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Disingenuous argument but sure

It would be more disingenuous to pretend they shot so poorly because of our defense, as if it was amazing, when it wasn’t. I read USPS’s post a little differently… Oregon had a poor shooting game and Illinois took advantage to the tune of 30, whereas we did 6. Yeah always good to win on the road in conference, but this doesn’t make anyone radically recalibrate their idea of Woodson/the team. It’s still PSU hoops. We did what we were supposed to do… and just barely. I’m not mad we won but I’m not looking to hang the banner like the true fan club is.

[Home Jersey 7,952]

2 minutes ago, Hornsby said:

I suspect Woodson wins 10 or 11 which is enough to save his job. The expectations are pretty low so that should do it. People thinking he is gone are delusional imo.

 

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I’m trying to will his departure into existence even though I’m not at all 100% sold it’s a given yet that we part ways. Scary thought.

[MikeRoberts 7,047]

5 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

That was a heck of win away from home by IU. Usually how it works if a team shoots bad and has a bad game the other team takes advantage.  Pretty sure that’s how it works with every team.   Illinois took advantage of a terrible game by Oregon and they won by 30 on the road.  

And I think it was a tough scout for PSU as well. There isn’t much film of IU playing 1 in 4 out. We play very different with 1 big

[IndianaSconnie90 241]

2 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

It would be more disingenuous to pretend they shot so poorly because of our defense, as if it was amazing, when it wasn’t. I read USPS’s post a little differently… Oregon had a poor shooting game and Illinois took advantage to the tune of 30, whereas we did 6. Yeah always good to win on the road in conference, but this doesn’t make anyone radically recalibrate their idea of Woodson/the team. It’s still PSU hoops. We did what we were supposed to do… and just barely. I’m not mad we won but I’m not looking to hang the banner like the true fan club is.

I agree, neither the Rutgers game or this game moved my needle. Rutgers was missing Harper and PSU probably hasn't shot that poorly from 3 and the FT line all season and probably won't again. We've been fortunate these first couple games 

[TheWatShot 14,082]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

I’m trying to will his departure into existence even though I’m not at all 100% sold it’s a given yet that we part ways. Scary thought.

Since a handful of posters have taken it upon themselves to repeatedly post that he'll still be around, I say go for it. 

[Hornsby 2,088]

I’m trying to will his departure into existence even though I’m not at all 100% sold it’s a given yet that we part ways. Scary thought.

I think he will be back. I mean he has the highest priced team in the big ten so winning 10 games should not be hard. I expect an extension happens also. We are stuck win him imo. Maybe one year year he gets lucky and makes a sweet sixeteen.

 

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