Fire Coach Woodson Thread

[HoosierTrav 7,890]

1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Eh I disagree with virtually all of your post. We need to stop putting MW above Dolson for starters. He doesn't have the power to overturn SD regarding his job status, regardless of who his friends are. Dolson can/will fire him by season's end.

Also, you pointed out proof that the administration can get it right with the CC mention. When left to Dolson/Pam, this administration works as it should. Nobody on the basketball side has any leverage at this point to suggest that Pam/Scott shouldn't be the decision makers this time around

I respect your opinion. I hope you’re right. I’m also not arguing that Dolson or Whitten aren’t capable of making a good hire. Just stating that I don’t have faith in that happening….. This isn’t the first 2nd or 3rd rodeo I’ve gotten my hopes up for. This time around, I’m too apathetic to be moved by anything other than an hire that actually moves the needle. 

[Golfman25 5,442]

19 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Not doubting you or this…because I have seen it posted on here several times, and it was even mentioned on the hysterics podcast (Not a big hysterics guys…but I listened for the drama) episode with Brian Evans where they said it was a fact that he didn’t report to Dolson.

Is this actually true? And if so, who does he report to?

Wouldn’t this and termination be part of his contract?  Anybody have a copy?

[Golfman25 5,442]

15 minutes ago, IUHoosierJoe said:

It’s not true.  I responded a couple days ago to one of his thousands of posts that claim that and got a snarky response, and he just keeps posting it.  Section 2.03 of Woodson’s contract expressly states that Woodson reports to the Director of Athletics.  The contract is public information and anyone can look it up, so it seems pretty ridiculous to keep posting otherwise.  

Asked my question before seeing this post.  Cites section number, so pretty solid.  

[IndianaSconnie90 190]

8 hours ago, IUFAN1976 said:

The only thing is MW doesn’t report to Dolson, so he can’t fire him.  Now everyone reports to Pam, so she can fire him or at least tell his direct report to fire him, but will she?  Because MW doesn’t report to Dolson is the issue here and that is why everyone who states it, is very apprehensive about him being fired.  Until it is officially announced, we all have a right to feel that way despite what you or anyone else says is going to happen.  Now do I think in the end will it happen, yes!  There has been to many issues over the past several years that says but until it officially announced, we all can be apprehensive 

I would be shocked to learn that any coach doesn't report to the AD. That seems wildly innacurate and "rabbit holish"

[str8baller 5,257]

1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

I would be shocked to learn that any coach doesn't report to the AD. That seems wildly innacurate and "rabbit holish"

As the old OSU AD publicly joked one time something to the effect of “the HC reports to me, but I’m subordinate to the HC.” That was when Meyer was there, I think.
 

Any successful basketball or football coach will be so powerful that the org chart showing who they report to will be pro forma at best. 

[str8baller 5,257]

7 hours ago, HoosierTrav said:

Just stating that I don’t have faith in that happening….. This isn’t the first 2nd or 3rd rodeo I’ve gotten my hopes up for.

Same. Cignetti shows some people it is possible. Of course anyone that follows other schools or looks around knows it is possible. But IU has been so bad it verges on the statistically improbable. 
 

At this point we could hire the president of the Celtics and I’d be cautiously optimistic at best knowing that IU basketball could screw anything up. 

[IndianaSconnie90 190]

1 hour ago, str8baller said:

As the old OSU AD publicly joked one time something to the effect of “the HC reports to me, but I’m subordinate to the HC.” That was when Meyer was there, I think.
 

Any successful basketball or football coach will be so powerful that the org chart showing who they report to will be pro forma at best. 

In the case of IU in its current state with the current HC, I promise he answers to the AD. He's done absolutely nothing to put him above anybody in that administration. Sometimes it's more about what you do than about who you know.

These are fun conspiratorial discussions but at the end of the day he got his 4 year trial period, he hasn't been successful, no matter what he tells himself, he doesn't recruit, he's arrogant, he doesn't connect with 18 year old kids unless he's holding a big fat bag of cash, and he simply not good at the Xs and Os. He'll be fired at the end of the season, plain and simple 

[JSHoosier 20,259]

8 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

In the case of IU in its current state with the current HC, I promise he answers to the AD. He's done absolutely nothing to put him above anybody in that administration. Sometimes it's more about what you do than about who you know.

These are fun conspiratorial discussions but at the end of the day he got his 4 year trial period, he hasn't been successful, no matter what he tells himself, he doesn't recruit, he's arrogant, he doesn't connect with 18 year old kids unless he's holding a big fat bag of cash, and he simply not good at the Xs and Os. He'll be fired at the end of the season, plain and simple 

He didn't even deserve 4 years. Should've been gone last season.

[IndianaSconnie90 190]

16 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

He didn't even deserve 4 years. Should've been gone last season.

Probably not, but that seems to be the official trial period so I'm not surprised 

[str8baller 5,257]

11 minutes ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Probably not, but that seems to be the official trial period so I'm not surprised 

Official according to whom? 

[AZ Hoosier 7,199]

Official according to whom? 

William Quinn Buckner.

[AKHoosier 6,930]

43 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

He didn't even deserve 4 years. Should've been gone last season.

He didn't even deserve an interview.

[JSHoosier 20,259]

1 hour ago, IndianaSconnie90 said:

Probably not, but that seems to be the official trial period so I'm not surprised 

Their whole "this guy should get too many years because the last guy got too many years" crap needs to end too. Giving crappy coaches more time just sets the program further back.

[JSHoosier 20,259]

36 minutes ago, AKHoosier said:

He didn't even deserve an interview.

Definitely not. They were stupid enough to hire him though, they could've corrected their mistake at the right time and we wouldn't be here; instead they found out the hard way there is no roster Woodson can't underachieve with.

[Rico 3,056]

[Pagoda 359]

9 minutes ago, JSHoosier said:

Their whole "this guy should get too many years because the last guy got too many years" crap needs to end too. Giving crappy coaches more time just sets the program further back.

Yea.  I don’t get this at all.  Any well run organization gets rid of bad executives asap.  IUBB does the opposite.

[Brass Cannon 24,814]

Just now, Pagoda said:

Yea.  I don’t get this at all.  Any well run organization gets rid of bad executives asap.  IUBB does the opposite.

QB like MW is still living in the 70s because that’s the only time in their life they mattered 

[Rico 3,056]

7 minutes ago, Brass Cannon said:

QB like MW is still living in the 70s because that’s the only time in their life they mattered 

[Hornsby 1,934]

I would be shocked to learn that any coach doesn't report to the AD. That seems wildly innacurate and "rabbit holish"

He may on paper bur I'm guessing quinn strongly advises dolson on how to handle him. Gives him hints on what moves would not be good for his career. Cig certainly seems to be a good hire but next year will be telling. Remember allen had the one good year and it was a total fluke.

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[Hornsby 1,934]

He didn't even deserve 4 years. Should've been gone last season.

100% Instead they threw 6.2 million dollars at the failed experiment

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