2023 SF/PF Mackenzie Mgbako to INDI-F’N-ANA

[Chris007 58,896]

40 minutes ago, 8bucks said:

When you say "his" locker.  What do they usually do with lockers for recruits visiting?

Designate one empty locker as the recruit’s locker.

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This is something IU did that Kansas didn't. They had this flag hanging from his locker. The whole family flipped out about it especially his dad.

Adam Howard move… keep that guy around…


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24 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Me still thinks Kansas. Unfortunately, Kansas has a well logged history of wing players under Self. Woody has Kopp. But this would be Woody's greatest get. No doubt about it.

Woody also has Melo, Josh Smith, Rip Hamilton among many others 

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Just now, ib4iu said:

Woody also has Melo, Josh Smith, Rip Hamilton among many others 

Sure in the NBA... Self has dudes from college who fit Mgbakos mold almost to a t.

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3 hours ago, southsidehoosier said:

Those Kansas pics look like they were taken at Sears

Hey don’t knock Sears, it was the place to get family photos back in the 80’s.  

Good times, and IU was very relevant.

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2 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

#MeToo

Me too!!  Was 15 when we won it all back in 87.

 

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Malik now following MM on Instagram 

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2 hours ago, dwtaylor1055 said:

12 spots to what spot?

To #24 I think……looked at Bart Torvik today and they currently have us at #36

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1 minute ago, NVFalcons1990 said:

Me too!!  Was 15 when we won it all back in 87.

 

All the pictures from when I was a kid (81 grad) were taken by Olan Mills. Very old school.

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24 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Sure in the NBA... Self has dudes from college who fit Mgbakos mold almost to a t.

No doubt but if I’m a top 10 player high school player I’m hoping for better careers than Kelly Oubre, Josh Jackson, and Svi Mykhailiuk. Not that they’ve had bad careers but even the most successful, Wiggins, in some NBA circles hasn’t performed to his draft position. Self does always get these long lengthy wings but has he actually improved much of the draft stock of them? I’d be interested in knowing on the one and done wings he’s gotten what they were projected before the season and after their lone season in Kansas. 
 

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6 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

No doubt but if I’m a top 10 player high school player I’m hoping for better careers than Kelly Oubre, Josh Jackson, and Svi Mykhailiuk. Not that they’ve had bad careers but even the most successful, Wiggins, in some NBA circles hasn’t performed to his draft position. Self does always get these long lengthy wings but has he actually improved much of the draft stock of them? I’d be interested in knowing on the one and done wings he’s gotten what they were projected before the season and after their lone season in Kansas. 
 

Andrew Wiggins has made $172.5 million in his career and will make another $108 million over the next four years.. Oubre has made $63 million and will get another eight-digit contract this offseason. Svi was a 3 star recruit ranked 239th in his class, so not really sure how he fits in here. If anything, turning him into an NBA pick is a plus for Self. And Josh Jackson’s problems were all between the ears. Even then, he made $28 million in his short career. 

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6 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Andrew Wiggins has made $172.5 million in his career and will make another $108 million over the next four years.. Oubre has made $63 million and will get another eight-digit contract this offseason. Svi was a 3 star recruit ranked 239th in his class, so not really sure how he fits in here. If anything, turning him into an NBA pick is a plus for Self. And Josh Jackson’s problems were all between the ears. Even then, he made $28 million in his short career. 

I said they haven’t had bad careers. If you can hang around the NBA for a decade you’re going to end up making close to 100 million. Nothing to sniff at. Again I’m saying to myself help me reach Melo not Wiggins. Maybe that’s just me. 

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12 minutes ago, ib4iu said:

I said they haven’t had bad careers. If you can hang around the NBA for a decade you’re going to end up making close to 100 million. Nothing to sniff at. Again I’m saying to myself help me reach Melo not Wiggins. Maybe that’s just me. 

Woody didn’t have anything to do with Melo becoming Melo, though. Of course, Self didn’t have much to do with Wiggins either as he came in top of his class and left after one year. Melo was a good individual player but he was selfish and had little team success in the league. Wiggins will end up making more nba money and he has a championship under his belt. 

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2 hours ago, Tasmanian Devil said:

All the pictures from when I was a kid (81 grad) were taken by Olan Mills. Very old school.

90 grad here….sure do remember Olan Mills

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1 minute ago, Chris007 said:

Was Wiggins going to be the a top 10 NBA pick if he never went to Kansas? Probably so, not sure Self did a lot for him. But I don’t follow it that closely.

He was billed as the next LeBron, so he would’ve needed an Emoni Bates level collapse to fall out of the top 10. I question how much college coaches really “do” with these 5 star, McDonald’s all American types to get them to the league. 

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21 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He was billed as the next LeBron, so he would’ve needed an Emoni Bates level collapse to fall out of the top 10. I question how much college coaches really “do” with these 5 star, McDonald’s all American types to get them to the league. 

Yeah I realized that after posting it so I deleted it but you’re too fast.

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1 hour ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

Woody didn’t have anything to do with Melo becoming Melo, though. Of course, Self didn’t have much to do with Wiggins either as he came in top of his class and left after one year. Melo was a good individual player but he was selfish and had little team success in the league. Wiggins will end up making more nba money and he has a championship under his belt. 

Melo still screwed up leaving Denver... But that's a different discussion.

I don't think it is necessarily about whether or not how the one and dones have done... More about how the 3 and/or 4 position guys have succeeded in college under him which only help ones draft stock.

Grady Dick

Jalen Wilson

Christian Braun

Dedric Lawson

Svi Mykhailiuk

Josh Jackson

Andrew Wiggins

The Morris Twins

 

Woody in college has Kopp.

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4 minutes ago, Loaded Chicken Sandwich said:

Melo still screwed up leaving Denver... But that's a different discussion.

I don't think it is necessarily about whether or not how the one and dones have done... More about how the 3 and/or 4 position guys have succeeded in college under him which only help ones draft stock.

Grady Dick

Jalen Wilson

Christian Braun

Dedric Lawson

Svi Mykhailiuk

Josh Jackson

Andrew Wiggins

The Morris Twins

 

Woody in college has Kopp.

I’m sure bill self would have gotten Miller Kopp into the nba. /s

[Sardinefarts1991 213]

Been following you guys for years.  Been refreshing IU message boards 50 times a day since I was 8 years old, 32 now.  Had to join the party finally.  

 

No inside info but I feel good about this one, look at that smile in his pics compared to Kansas pics!

 

However, IU has been the bridesmaid and never the bride way too frequently lately huh.

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3 hours ago, Brass Cannon said:

I may have missed it but do we have any idea on final decision timeline 

I would guess they'd want to wrap it up as soon as possible. He'll be graduating in a few weeks and they'd probably like to have this done very soon. 

 

Gut feeling here, but based on my experiences following recruitment timelines over the years, I would say if he announces this week, that bodes well for us. If this drags into next week, it probably starts to favor Kansas.