IUBB vs Michigan - Sunday, 3/5/23 @ 4:30 on CBS

[go iu bb 6,237]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Okay… I’ll bite.

When was our “real run“?

I guessing those first few games after the losing streak when IU was destroying teams.

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

1 hour ago, HoosierHoopster said:

No we're not playing like the team that was crushing teams by an average of 13 ppg during our real run. We are struggling to score from the outside, we let UM go on a big run, from up to down double digits, we have been struggling to rebound well (and even got outrebounded by UM), our D has fallen off. That's not to tarnish the exceptional effort and poise it took to climb back into yesterday's game, it wasn't pretty at all, but it was still a heck of focused effort to pull it out. Matchups in the tourney are of course going to  matter, but we need our earlier D to return, we need to create space better again for the outside shooting, we need guys who are rebounding playing more, and we need consistent offensive production from Bates and even Gallo. I'm not trying to knock the team, I loved the W yesterday, and UM is talented and played like they were trying to make the dance, but we're better than this.

No days off in the B1G or Big 12.    Since Nov 30th  IU played 21 tournament quality teams are teams still in the hunt for an at-large (Kennesaw included in those teams)

in other leagues teams get a chance to catch their breath against non tournament quality teams and get to play multiple games in a row against those types of teams.    Not in the B1G or Big 12 especially when you only get Minny once and not at home.   Since Jan 31st IU played 10 Straight games a giant tournament quality teams or teams fighting for an at-large bid.    No days off.   Not going to be able to keep up the momentum from winning 8 of 9 in a league where you don’t get give me games in between playing top 60 teams for a month straight.    IU’s worst losses of the year are @56 and home to 37,38.    I’m sure Big 12 and B1G teams would like a chance to have a stretch in conference where they get Notre dame, Georgia Tech and Boston College in a row like Miami got.    I’m sure IU would of liked to play the bottom 5 of the B1G and go 9-0 against them like Purdue did  instead of only getting 5 chances at the bottom 5 (IU went 4-1).      Losing double digits leads isn’t an Indiana problem it’s a college basketball problem.    This year more then I can remember no lead is safe regardless of high major, mid major or low major.   I’ve seen some wild comebacks this year 

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

16 minutes ago, go iu bb said:

I guessing those first few games after the losing streak when IU was destroying teams.

Yeah but they really wasn’t destroying teams.   That had a massive run against Ohio st at the under 4 timeout that gave them a big lead but before that run and after that run Ohio st played them even.   Sparty game they jumped out early to a 9 pt lead then IU went on a run to take the lead.   That game was a 1 pt game at the 12:00 in the second half before IU pulled away.    Wisky game was a 1 pt game at half and then IU came out of the half with an impressive run and never looked back.   This was the most impressive stretch.    2nd half of Wisky and the whole road game at Illinois.   Me personally asking a team to do that throughout the whole B1G season isn’t reality with the quality of competition you are playing night in and night out.    The downs were bound to show up for the season and they did 

[RaceToTheTop 26,134]

Hot take:  we will play Nebraska in the BTT.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

16 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

I’m sure IU would of liked to play the bottom 5 of the B1G and go 9-0 against them like Purdue did  instead of only getting 5 chances at the bottom 5 (IU went 4-1).     

Interesting cutoff for the bottom 5 teams of the Big 1.o.

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

1 minute ago, HoosierAloha said:

Interesting cutoff for the bottom 5 teams of the Big 1.o.

Not really interesting just chose the bottom 5 teams.  Purdue played 9 games and IU played 5 against them 

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

I don't think the JHS made 3 with ~1 minute left in the game is getting enough attention. That's a freshman stepping up and drilling a huge shot to get us to OT.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

6 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Not really interesting just chose the bottom 5 teams 

Is that going straight records or are we counting tiebreakers?

pu (9-0) compared to IU (4-1) against the "bottom 5 teams" is quite different than pu (9-1) compared to IU (5-2) against the bottom 6 teams in the Big 1.o.

Edit: should be bottom 6 teams in that case

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

3 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

Is that going straight records or are we counting tiebreakers?

pu (9-0) compared to IU (4-1) against the "bottom 5 teams" is quite different than pu (9-1) compared to IU (5-2) against the bottom 5 teams in the Big 1.o.

You can throw Rutgers in as well and point remains the same.  Purdue had 10 chances against teams that didn’t finish with a winning conference record and IU had 7 chances 3 less then Purdue 

[TheWatShot 14,109]

6 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I don't think the JHS made 3 with ~1 minute left in the game is getting enough attention. That's a freshman stepping up and drilling a huge shot to get us to OT.

Neither is the two-point basket from 22 feet that Kopp made in overtime. 

[lillurk 3,762]

8 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I don't think the JHS made 3 with ~1 minute left in the game is getting enough attention. That's a freshman stepping up and drilling a huge shot to get us to OT.

Yes, massive shot on a possession where IU HAD to score. He has been terrific in close and late scenarios

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

Records against the top 4 in the B1G for the top 4 finishers 

Purdue (2-3)

Northwestern (4-0)

Iu (3-3)

Sparty(1-4)

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

2 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

You can throw Rutgers in as well and point remains the same.  Purdue had 10 chances against teams that didn’t finish with a winning conference record and IU had 7 chances 3 less then Purdue 

I probably would have gone 4-0 (pu) to 2-0 (IU) against the bottom 2 teams because they're clearly turrble compared to the rest of the Big 1.o. The entire middle pack of the Big 1.o is pretty much tourney quality teams without a lot of separation (your take) so I'm not sure there is a huge difference between Penn State as "bottom 5" is much different than Iowa "top 5."

Looking at the scores in some of those "bottom 5" games it was clear purdoodoo handled several much easier than we did. I still feel like we could have tied for the conference given a different schedule but that's not reality and I hope we don't hang a banner for that. Hopefully, we remain a competitive team so when we get the good break of an easy schedule we can cash in on it.

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

8 minutes ago, TheWatShot said:

Neither is the two-point basket from 22 feet that Kopp made in overtime. 

Absolutely, scoring on 3 of your first 4 possessions while getting 3 straight stops to start OT is fantastic. Slightly different situations but all needed to get the W.

[Uspshoosier 46,054]

2 minutes ago, HoosierAloha said:

I probably would have gone 4-0 (pu) to 2-0 (IU) against the bottom 2 teams because they're clearly turrble compared to the rest of the Big 1.o. The entire middle pack of the Big 1.o is pretty much tourney quality teams without a lot of separation (your take) so I'm not sure there is a huge difference between Penn State as "bottom 5" is much different than Iowa "top 5."

Looking at the scores in some of those "bottom 5" games it was clear purdoodoo handled several much easier than we did. I still feel like we could have tied for the conference given a different schedule but that's not reality and I hope we don't hang a banner for that. Hopefully, we remain a competitive team so when we get the good break of an easy schedule we can cash in on it.

IU cashed in on the easy  schedule back in 2016 when they won it.     It’s the way it goes about every year.   The winner usually has a weak in conference SOS.  It’s the reason IU won the league and got a 5 seed 

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10 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

Records against the top 4 in the B1G for the top 4 finishers 

Purdue (2-3)

Northwestern (4-0)

Iu (3-3)

Sparty(1-4)

Northwestern was unlucky to only play Sparty and purdoodoo once

[HoosierAloha 30,068]

15 minutes ago, lillurk said:

Yes, massive shot on a possession where IU HAD to score. He has been terrific in close and late scenarios

Really wish we could clear the lane a bit more to see him attacking the rim. I believe that is another level he could be great at but we're unable to empty the lane for that to happen.

[HoosierHoopster 7,111]

52 minutes ago, Uspshoosier said:

No days off in the B1G or Big 12.    Since Nov 30th  IU played 21 tournament quality teams are teams still in the hunt for an at-large (Kennesaw included in those teams)

in other leagues teams get a chance to catch their breath against non tournament quality teams and get to play multiple games in a row against those types of teams.    Not in the B1G or Big 12 especially when you only get Minny once and not at home.   Since Jan 31st IU played 10 Straight games a giant tournament quality teams or teams fighting for an at-large bid.    No days off.   Not going to be able to keep up the momentum from winning 8 of 9 in a league where you don’t get give me games in between playing top 60 teams for a month straight.    IU’s worst losses of the year are @56 and home to 37,38.    I’m sure Big 12 and B1G teams would like a chance to have a stretch in conference where they get Notre dame, Georgia Tech and Boston College in a row like Miami got.    I’m sure IU would of liked to play the bottom 5 of the B1G and go 9-0 against them like Purdue did  instead of only getting 5 chances at the bottom 5 (IU went 4-1).      Losing double digits leads isn’t an Indiana problem it’s a college basketball problem.    This year more then I can remember no lead is safe regardless of high major, mid major or low major.   I’ve seen some wild comebacks this year 

Absolutely, no arguments, but we just got pounded at home to Iowa by 20+. We needed OT at home to win by 2 against UM. The at PU game notwithstanding, we're not playing as well as we were earlier in the season. The college basketball landscape doesn't change that.

[reconmkd 4,416]

One thing that has absolutely bothered me for much of the season and in the game yesterday, nearly every time TJD has the ball outside of the post and is sizing up to drive on his defender, Race drops to the opposite block dragging an additional defender to the post before TJD can get his position. I know it is really late to address this but it needs to be addressed in practice this week. I understand the mindset of Race is getting in position for the drop off or the rebound, but if he would just wait a split second to drop, it would open the lane more for TJD. It would also open a little more space for Race to receive the drop off or gain some room for a put back slam.

When Race is not in the game, this doesn't happen as often with MR or JG and I wish it didn't happen so often with Race. Timing could be the difference from being bounced in the first round or TJD absolutely destroying a team in the post. He needs room to operate and clogging the lane with extra defenders is generally no bueno! I know I am not a coach, but just one of the things that drives me nuts!

[HoosierHoopster 7,111]

1 hour ago, Stuhoo said:

Okay… I’ll bite.

When was our “real run“?

You're joking, right? Wisconsin (by 18), at Illinois (by 15, the place we never win), MSU (by 13), the at Minny game, a hiccup with Race coming back and starting, v OSU (by 16).

Our best win by far since was at PU (by 8), in between losses to MD, NW, MSU, Iowa by 22 at home. A bunch of good teams / away games in there but that run, particularly the first 3, we were playing our best ball of the season.