IU Basketball News and Notes

[ronzo4IU]

2 hours ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

@ronzo4IU more on the status of Josh Harris.  His return was discussed this afternoon on 247 and the gist of the response regarding his return was January is a possibility.  To me, that wasn't a ringing endorsement and I would continue to recommend you not hold your breath.

Ok, I'll stop holding my breath..lol  Yeah, that doesn't sound promising at all.  Hope to see Drake soon though..hopefully.

Tks for the info!

[Pagoda]

Not sure where to post this, but he loved Indiana basketball so may as well put it here.

Ken Nunn passed away.  He was a Bloomington legend with his personal injury commercials and bus ads, Rolls Royce he'd drive around town, and he donated quite a bit to IU.  I never met him but he was a character.

[Home Jersey]

Not sure there's a better thread for this, but thought this was too absurd not to share: 

https://marathonhandbook.com/d3-runner-banned-for-accepting-donation-to-help-pay-for-college/

Why exactly is the NCAA still a thing again?

[J34]

3 minutes ago, Home Jersey said:

Not sure there's a better thread for this, but thought this was too absurd not to share: 

https://marathonhandbook.com/d3-runner-banned-for-accepting-donation-to-help-pay-for-college/

Why exactly is the NCAA still a thing again?

Sad! And absurd. 

[Gnet550]

Wasn’t sure where to put this…was hoping we didn’t get involved in this mess….but interest shown at least I guess

[HinnyHoosier]

21 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Not sure there's a better thread for this, but thought this was too absurd not to share: 

https://marathonhandbook.com/d3-runner-banned-for-accepting-donation-to-help-pay-for-college/

Why exactly is the NCAA still a thing again?

The double standards are an atrocity. I really hate the NCAA.

[68Hoosier]

22 hours ago, Home Jersey said:

Not sure there's a better thread for this, but thought this was too absurd not to share: 

https://marathonhandbook.com/d3-runner-banned-for-accepting-donation-to-help-pay-for-college/

Why exactly is the NCAA still a thing again?

Unbelievable!  They need to do away with the NCAA and start a new governing body over college sports.  

[Pagoda]

9 hours ago, Gnet550 said:

Wasn’t sure where to put this…was hoping we didn’t get involved in this mess….but interest shown at least I guess

It absolutely stinks for the college game, but unfortunately IUBB is going to have to play the game.  This means considering if these guys are any good and worth the money.  I don't know if this player is.

As Coach Cig once said: "You tell me what the rules are, and I'll thrive within the rules."

Just eyeballing this, two-way players make around ~$650K, and if they have no hope to get called up from the G League to the NBA I can see why they might want to get switch to college and use up any eligibility they have left to get ~$1M+ per season.  And the guys who are just on G-League contracts don't make much at all and I'd think all of them would prefer college ball.

But yea, I'll say it again, it stinks for the college game.

[tyappleg]

8 hours ago, Gnet550 said:

Wasn’t sure where to put this…was hoping we didn’t get involved in this mess….but interest shown at least I guess

Guy has actually played in NBA games, 0 percent chance he should have eligibility. 

[Home Jersey]

If we are going to look at a mid season G League addition, can it please at least be a 7 foot big guy? Lol

[tyappleg]

FWIW

[Demo]

9 hours ago, Gnet550 said:

Wasn’t sure where to put this…was hoping we didn’t get involved in this mess….but interest shown at least I guess

I have a Trentyn Flowers story that some of the MOD’s might remember from a few years back:

When Woody was recruiting Rakease Passmore I went to see him and Combine Academy his junior year at a showcase event. Trentyn Flowers was a teammate of his that year, something like the 4th high school he’d gone to. By blind luck I ended up sitting next to Flowers’ parents. Figured that out when he came over and gave Mom a hug. They couldn’t have been nicer folks. They talked my ear off the entire game. When I asked about his recruitment, because what the hell, Mom said that if it was purely a basketball decision it would be Creighton because they loved McDermott, they loved the facilities and the offense and Trent felt really comfortable there. But, it wasn’t going to be Creighton because, as Dad flat out told this stranger, “They don’t have nearly enough money.” He made it 100% clear that the biggest check was the only factor. He thought it was gonna be KU but the process was ongoing. They were as transactional as it gets. Then U of L swept in with, presumably, the biggest check and Flowers reclassed to ‘23 and committed. He was on campus for a couple of months before he split for the Australian League. So, I believe he’s 20 and has played for 4 high schools, was on a college campus, played in the Australian League and has been with a couple of NBA orgs. Long way of saying, if you were gonna bet on what 2-way guy would break the barrier and take the college money and run, this is probably your guy.
Here’s the thing: he really looks the part and he’s a talented kid but he’s not particularly good. He flashes everything you want but with the exception of a short stretch in the ABL he’s never actually done it anywhere. If DDV is looking at this, ok, I guess, but I really don’t know what you should be expecting. 

[Demo]

26 minutes ago, tyappleg said:

FWIW

God, I hope IU is 1 of them. 

[Uspshoosier]

2 minutes ago, Demo said:

God, I hope IU is 1 of them. 

 

[AZ Hoosier]

3 minutes ago, Demo said:

I have a Trentyn Flowers story that some of the MOD’s might remember from a few years back:

When Woody was recruiting Rakease Passmore I went to see him and Combine Academy his junior year at a showcase event. Trentyn Flowers was a teammate of his that year, something like the 4th high school he’d gone to. By blind luck I ended up sitting next to Flowers’ parents. Figured that out when he came over and gave Mom a hug. They couldn’t have been nicer folks. They talked my ear off the entire game. When I asked about his recruitment, because what the hell, Mom said that if it was purely a basketball decision it would be Creighton because they loved McDermott, they loved the facilities and the offense and Trent felt really comfortable there. But, it wasn’t going to be Creighton because, as Dad flat out told this stranger, “They don’t have nearly enough money.” He made it 100% clear that the biggest check was the only factor. He thought it was gonna be KU but the process was ongoing. They were as transactional as it gets. Then U of L swept in with, presumably, the biggest check and Flowers reclassed to ‘23 and committed. He was on campus for a couple of months before he split for the Australian League. So, I believe he’s 20 and has played for 4 high schools, was on a college campus, played in the Australian League and has been with a couple of NBA orgs. Long way of saying, if you were gonna bet on what 2-way guy was break the barrier and take the college money and run, this is probably your guy.
Here’s the thing: he really looks the part and he’s a talented kid but he’s not particularly good. He flashes everything you want but with the exception of a short stretch in the ABL he’s never actually done it anywhere. If DDV is looking at this, ok, I guess, but I really don’t know what you should be expecting. 

I'm just really confused. The guy "has been with a couple of NBA orgs" and now wants to come back to play in college and the NCAA et al is fine with that?

I fully understand that the NCAA is, at best, a paper tiger, but, dang, son... Now guys are suing the NCAA and schools for more eligibility, when we're already seeing 6 and 7 year "seniors", COVID year notwithstanding.

We now have an absolute free agency situation in college that puts the MLB/NBA/NFL free agency to shame. No salary cap, just general free-for-all environment that makes it hard to stomach being a fan of any school or program. This gimme gimme gimme, "Who's on first" scenario has ruined "amateur athletics".

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

19 minutes ago, Demo said:

God, I hope IU is 1 of them. 

Per 247, we have zero interest in Flowers regardless of Joe Tipton throwing our name in that pool.

[Class of '66 Old Fart]

Joe Tipton has had to eat a little crow with his latest tweet.

Florida, Michigan, Clemson, Indiana, and Texas Tech are not expected to be in the mix for Trentyn Flowers, sources told @On3sports.

[Demo]

3 minutes ago, Class of '66 Old Fart said:

Joe Tipton has had to eat a little crow with his latest tweet.

Florida, Michigan, Clemson, Indiana, and Texas Tech are not expected to be in the mix for Trentyn Flowers, sources told @On3sports.

This has Muss written all over it.

[TheWatShot]

1 hour ago, AZ Hoosier said:

I'm just really confused. The guy "has been with a couple of NBA orgs" and now wants to come back to play in college and the NCAA et al is fine with that?

I fully understand that the NCAA is, at best, a paper tiger, but, dang, son... Now guys are suing the NCAA and schools for more eligibility, when we're already seeing 6 and 7 year "seniors", COVID year notwithstanding.

We now have an absolute free agency situation in college that puts the MLB/NBA/NFL free agency to shame. No salary cap, just general free-for-all environment that makes it hard to stomach being a fan of any school or program. This gimme gimme gimme, "Who's on first" scenario has ruined "amateur athletics".

The UNC fake class scandal broke the NCAA. They spent 7 years on that one and came up empty. They're not even trying anymore. 

[str8baller]

3 hours ago, 68Hoosier said:

Unbelievable!  They need to do away with the NCAA and start a new governing body over college sports.  

I’ve been saying it is going to happen for some time. And it will in some manner. I’d previously put the timeline somewhere in the next decade. I might revise that to 1-2 years.  
 

If this were happening in football the NCAA would be toast already. But the lines between pro (ie just NFL) and college are much more “bright” there and players already have to stay 3 years.