IUBB vs Maryland - 2/24/22 @ 7:00 on FS1

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

8 hours ago, Stuhoo said:

 

Anthony Leal is turning into the guy that Woody can put in the game when things are getting weird and trust to not do stupid ****.

I like having a guy like that on the team--it's a great piece to have on a top 25 team down the road.

 

He just knows how to play the game like Galloway.  He actually moves on offense and the ball moves when he is in the game.  
 

He had a play where he got open on the wing and instead of putting up the shot he took a couple dribbles in and fed Race for a easy layup.  Simple play that none of our other wings make.  He needs a lot more minutes at the expense of Kopp/Parker.

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

6 hours ago, Dillion said:

And when he is in the game our offense looks good? He just started playing because of injuries and suspension and we just went on a losing streak. He didn’t seem to help out a whole lot during that stretch. I get it I like the kid and I’m sure he is an astounding as far as character and everything goes. However, he doesn’t do anything to move the needle of IU basketball.


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Yes our offense looks a lot better when he is in the game.  Both player movement and ball movement improve.  It’s not all about him hitting shots or scoring but it leads to better shots and looks for others.

[Hovadipo 54,962]

Speaking of Leal…

 

He’s such a good kid it’s almost annoying. Like, have a questionable photo from a frat party surface or get caught flipping off an opposing fan or almost fight someone by the Sports Taco Bell……….something!

[Stuhoo 79,574]

1 minute ago, Hovadipo said:

Speaking of Leal…

 

He’s such a good kid it’s almost annoying. Like, have a questionable photo from a frat party surface or get caught flipping off an opposing fan or almost fight someone by the Sports Taco Bell……….something!

Well maybe you can find some damaging material in this.

Props to walk-on Michael Shipp in a best supporting actor role:

 

[Hovadipo 54,962]

3 minutes ago, Stuhoo said:

Well maybe you can find some damaging material in this.

Props to walk-on Michael Shipp in a best supporting actor role:

 

Eats celery within earshot of another human. 
 

Savage. 

[IU - Kaulie 1,891]

4 hours ago, Dillion said:

This is where I am at. Just because his basketball IQ is high doesn’t mean he is necessarily good. There are a lot of talent smart basketball minds out there that weren’t the most talented of players. This is the category I’m placing Leal in. He doesn’t push the needle for me at all and I don’t see it when he is on the court. Archie and Woodson both have not played him huge minutes so they don’t see it either. The minutes Woodson has given him have come from injuries and boneheaded teammates. I hope IU is not putting a bunch of Leal on the floor because then we really wouldn’t be any good.


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It’s not about him being good and putting up numbers.  The team is better when he is on the court.  Basketball is a team sport.  When we have more options on the wings that might change but right now that’s the way it is.

[mamasa 15,135]

1 hour ago, go iu bb said:

They award Mr. Basketball to players who are good in HS. That doesn't mean they'll be good in the B1G.

So if they’re good enough to be named the best basketball player in indiana, they’re good. 

[DWB 1,098]

1 hour ago, brumdog45 said:

Truth is if Galloway wasn’t hurt, Leal wouldn’t have likely saw the floor yesterday.  Galloway plays smart as well but makes more plays because he’s a better athlete.

Not so sure I agree with you, especially of late. Leal has come in over the last 3(?) games under different circumstances and played different roles. He was forced to play Point for part of a couple games, wing in yesterday's game. The reason he doesn't see the floor more is that Woody  is fixated (maybe rightly so) on PS and Kopp being the SG and SF. 

I think Anthony has improved a bunch this year. He's not great yet, maybe never will be great, but I'm sure glad he's on the team to bring energy, move the ball, run the floor and shoot when it's the right thing to do.

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

5 hours ago, Dillion said:

This is where I am at. Just because his basketball IQ is high doesn’t mean he is necessarily good. There are a lot of talent smart basketball minds out there that weren’t the most talented of players. This is the category I’m placing Leal in. He doesn’t push the needle for me at all and I don’t see it when he is on the court. Archie and Woodson both have not played him huge minutes so they don’t see it either. The minutes Woodson has given him have come from injuries and boneheaded teammates. I hope IU is not putting a bunch of Leal on the floor because then we really wouldn’t be any good.


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Kinda reminds me of the Austin Etherington love.  Everyone wanted him to play but he wasn’t B1G level either.

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

Look at the list of Mr Basketballs since 2000. Leal is a noticeable outlier. Not many (any?) of those guys buried 10 deep on an average team.

[Dillion 345]

Agree to disagree. Leal does not make us better.


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[IU Scott 2,375]

9 hours ago, Uspshoosier said:

If IU beat those 2 and the first game in B1G tourney they should be a lock in my opinion.  That first win in the tournament would be a neutral court win against a quality team (Q1 or Q2).     Not a lot of bubble teams would be able to say that their losses are all Q2a or better losses.  Most are going to have bad losses.    In that case they wouldn’t have a bad loss( judged by the committee not me).   No bad losses is like having an extra Q1 win basically.  Not many bubble teams would have 2 high end wins like IU would have.   If IU wins these next 2 they will be in better position then most would think unless teams around them don’t lose another game which around this time of year won’t happen

Lunardi was on DD show a couple of days ago and he said that if IU wins 3 more games this year they should be in.  That was before the Maryland game.  He said it wouldn't matter when those 3 games occured.  

[IUFAN1976 2,772]

I think When Leal comes he’s been decent, not great, but decent on the offensive end but he doesn’t seem to make any mistakes, which is critical because it allows Woodson to steal minutes while he’s in.  Also, I think he’s made good improvement on the defensive end and he does play with good effort.  If Leal wasn’t B10 caliber, CMW wouldn’t play him at all no matter how thin our depth is.  I think we will continue to see him improve and by his senior year, he may even become a starter.  

[IU Scott 2,375]

I know the game had changed and there is not as much of a need for role players.  Leal would be one of the past role players who didn't put up big stats but did things to help the team to win.  We wouldn't have won the 87 championship without key plays in the tournament by Hillman and Eyl that didn't include scoring.

[str8baller 5,017]

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

Lunardi was on DD show a couple of days ago and he said that if IU wins 3 more games this year they should be in.  That was before the Maryland game.  He said it wouldn't matter when those 3 games occured.  

There’s where I’ve been at. Just to simplify things a little, 19 win teams in the B1G, especially those with a couple big wins, tend to get into the tourney. 

[Alford Bailey 12,350]

1 hour ago, IU Scott said:

I know the game had changed and there is not as much of a need for role players.  Leal would be one of the past role players who didn't put up big stats but did things to help the team to win.  We wouldn't have won the 87 championship without key plays in the tournament by Hillman and Eyl that didn't include scoring.

Joe Hillman was an absolute stud. Definitely in my top 10 all time favs. A key player on the 89 B1G championship team. If Leal could contribute similar to Eyl ( that would mean playing defense) I’d take it. You would probably have to go back to Kevin Ault to find a lesser skilled Mr B than Leal.

[HoosierHoops1 5,024]

1 hour ago, Alford Bailey said:

Joe Hillman was an absolute stud. Definitely in my top 10 all time favs. A key player on the 89 B1G championship team. If Leal could contribute similar to Eyl ( that would mean playing defense) I’d take it. You would probably have to go back to Kevin Ault to find a lesser skilled Mr B than Leal.

Joe H as a freshman avg 1.5, as a sophomore ave 2.5. Junior still paltry, but the switch flipped his senior year. Leal has plenty of time. 

[yogisballin 2,295]

I agree with Kaulie, I'm not saying Race is better than TJD, but we look better as a team and more players get involved when TJD is on the bench. 

Said this 6-7 weeks ago and got blasted for it


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[RaceToTheTop 24,851]

37 minutes ago, HoosierHoops1 said:

Joe H as a freshman avg 1.5, as a sophomore ave 2.5. Junior still paltry, but the switch flipped his senior year. Leal has plenty of time. 

FWIW, it wasn't that Hillman wasn't a good offensive player -- just a lot of talent around him and he deferred.  He averaged 41.4 ppg his senior year in California and 26.6 ppg for his high school career.  He also played minor league baseball in summer when he was at IU -- hit .310 in A ball between basketball seasons one year.

[HoosierX 1,521]

15 hours ago, Chris007 said:

I agree with Kaulie, I'm not saying Race is better than TJD, but we look better as a team and more players get involved when TJD is on the bench. 

This is a take that is too simplified. First of all the sample size is small. Second, the other team’s game plan is all about stopping tjd. Obviously that will change when he is no longer there.