IUBB @ Michigan State - 02/12/22 @ 3:30 on Fox-TV

[DWB 1,098]

Can anybody enlighten me on what the actual game plan was? On offense, I haven't noticed one change in the offensive sets for ¾ of the season now. We're running the same predictable stuff that we did in the early part of the season.

I hate to say this, cause I REALLY want to support Woodson, but I think he's too accustomed to loosing in the pros. And he doesn't seem to have the fire in the belly like Izzo, Peikle, crazy McCaffery, and others in the league, not to mention Auburn, Kansas,  et al.

[coonhounds 8,787]

We don’t have the proper talent but we’re good enough to be in the tourney. I just don’t see that happening now. I don’t really care who agrees or not but Woodson isn’t the guy. He just isn’t. Red flags all over the place with his coaching decisions and philosophy. I’ve never come to a conclusion on a coach this quick but I’ll be shocked if we ever do anything under his lead. 

Hoping your wrong but definitely not arguing. Red flags all over the place and we aren't where we
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[Hovadipo 55,020]

13 minutes ago, Josh said:

Good thinking.  He'll be some of the faces, but I have other enemies too.  I know a lot of punchable faces unfortunately 

Your buddies that went with you to the Tool concert can’t be that bad. 

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,935]

1 minute ago, VO5 said:

We don’t have the proper talent but we’re good enough to be in the tourney. I just don’t see that happening now. I don’t really care who agrees or not but Woodson isn’t the guy. He just isn’t. Red flags all over the place with his coaching decisions and philosophy. I’ve never come to a conclusion on a coach this quick but I’ll be shocked if we ever do anything under his lead. 

Kinda feels that way.  He’s going to need to make a big splash in recruiting or transfer portal and even then I’m not sure.  Plus, he’s always had age working against him.  We are getting to the point of no return with coaching hires. 

[colonel06 1,913]

20 minutes ago, HoosierTrav said:

Trayce looks like he packs it in so often during crunch time or moments when we are down. Maybe I’m just being overly critical but his effort doesn’t jump out at you. Outside of maybe 2-3 players, I’m ready to see this entire roster blow up. 

I’m afraid he is not a warrior with a sense of urgency for lack of a way to say “Go get that damn ball, get the hell open!”

[WayneFleekHoosier 47,935]

3 minutes ago, DWB said:

Can anybody enlighten me on what the actual game plan was? On offense, I haven't noticed one change in the offensive sets for ¾ of the season now. We're running the same predictable stuff that we did in the early part of the season.

I hate to say this, cause I REALLY want to support Woodson, but I think he's too accustomed to loosing in the pros. And he doesn't seem to have the fire in the belly like Izzo, Peikle, crazy McCaffery, and others in the league, not to mention Auburn, Kansas,  et al.

I think he has the fire. He just doesn’t have the time and “know-how” to have a top 10 program in today’s environment.  

[VO5 8,272]

1 minute ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kinda feels that way.  He’s going to need to make a big splash in recruiting or transfer portal and even then I’m not sure.  Plus, he’s always had age working against him.  We are getting to the point of no return with coaching hires. 

I think we’re already past it. And when Woodson doesn’t work out I know we’ll be reluctant to get rid of him because he’s one of our own. Future is about as bright as a broken lightbulb. 

[Hoosierfan2017 20,855]

4 minutes ago, VO5 said:

We don’t have the proper talent but we’re good enough to be in the tourney. I just don’t see that happening now. I don’t really care who agrees or not but Woodson isn’t the guy. He just isn’t. Red flags all over the place with his coaching decisions and philosophy. I’ve never come to a conclusion on a coach this quick but I’ll be shocked if we ever do anything under his lead. 

He says all the right things - culture, discipline, accountability, etc., and he’s a former player, so fans really like him. I don’t even disagree with them. He seems like a very likable guy. But I agree with you completely. His in-game coaching this year has left so much to be desired. He’s not a good enough coach to win without elite talent, and he’s not recruiting at a high enough level. 

[HoosierCoop 3,885]

I love the fight today, we just forgot to play basketball. 

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

I didn’t think it was too much to ask to have a winning program again. Maybe that’s the case unfortunately

[JSHoosier 19,819]

2 minutes ago, WayneFleekHoosier said:

Kinda feels that way.  He’s going to need to make a big splash in recruiting or transfer portal and even then I’m not sure.  Plus, he’s always had age working against him.  We are getting to the point of no return with coaching hires. 

We may be past that point.  Woodson was a great player at IU but that was about the only thing he had going for him; NBA teams weren't knocking down his door to give him another head coaching chance and no other college program would've looked at him.

[VO5 8,272]

Just now, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He says all the right things - culture, discipline, accountability, etc., and he’s a former player, so fans really like him. I don’t even disagree with them. He seems like a very likable guy. But I agree with you completely. His in-game coaching this year has left so much to be desired. He’s not a good enough coach to win without elite talent, and he’s not recruiting at a high enough level. 

Yup. I tried to be positive at first and was coming around to the hire but I just feel it in my gut that this isn’t it. And looking at another 4 years of crap is hard to come to terms with. This program is a has been and always will be.

[Hoosier Guy 7,518]

2 minutes ago, Hoosierfan2017 said:

He says all the right things - culture, discipline, accountability, etc., and he’s a former player, so fans really like him. I don’t even disagree with them. He seems like a very likable guy. But I agree with you completely. His in-game coaching this year has left so much to be desired. He’s not a good enough coach to win without elite talent, and he’s not recruiting at a high enough level. 

His coaching in the second half against Illinois was a huge warning. Why he thought Trayce could defend Kofi straight up is beyond me

[HoosierAloha 30,024]

50 minutes ago, monskisprodigy said:

Just being honest, if I’m Race and I’m going to spend another year in college…I’m transferring to a school with a high likelihood and history of making the tournament. To give another year of this effort and fall short, no thanks. 

You're such a non-fan. Dude brings it, gives a lot of e and e. Wish he would find that jumper and go make a lot of money.

[JSHoosier 19,819]

20 minutes ago, DChoosier said:

We need to beat Wiscy Tuesday or we can kiss the tourney goodbye.

They lost at home to Rutgers, I have no doubts they're looking forward to playing IU.

[Indiana muskie 205]

Just got beat by a better bball team at home . Medicore bball at its best . Win 4 out 6 things are better.

[Hoosierfan2017 20,855]

1 minute ago, Hoosier Guy said:

His coaching in the second half against Illinois was a huge warning. Why he thought Trayce could defend Kofi straight up is beyond me

His stubbornness is a huge issue. When things are clearly not working he’s so hesitant to change them up. 

[RoadRage 1,608]

2 minutes ago, VO5 said:

We don’t have the proper talent but we’re good enough to be in the tourney. I just don’t see that happening now. I don’t really care who agrees or not but Woodson isn’t the guy. He just isn’t. Red flags all over the place with his coaching decisions and philosophy. I’ve never come to a conclusion on a coach this quick but I’ll be shocked if we ever do anything under his lead. 

Indiana has lost some of the allure we once had as a coaching destination. Since Knight, they have basically struck out with every hire....maybe they need to hire someone that actually knows how to find coaching talent? Other schools find great coaches, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once and while...

[HoosierAloha 30,024]

51 minutes ago, cbp4iu said:

A lot of players need to be gone after this season. Need some upgrades. 

Another annual Hoosier activity as we try to stay on the right side of the bubble. We got some "shooters" and now they can't shoot. We worked on free throws and still can't make. Maybe we should look into why this is happening instead of cycling through players. Lots of fantastic coaches being paid for by the university and we still can't figure this out. Shocking.

[JSHoosier 19,819]

Just now, RoadRage said:

Indiana has lost some of the allure we once had as a coaching destination. Since Knight, they have basically struck out with every hire....maybe they need to hire someone that actually knows how to find coaching talent? Other schools find great coaches, even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once and while...

I'm not sure the administration has wanted to get the hire right.